Feeling shame for wanting sex without relationships

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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


Male and female sexuality are entirely different for the vast majority of people. Lying about this reality helps no one.


You say this like women’s sexuality remains constant throughout their lives. You are comparing youth to this thread of the middle aged, recently divorced.
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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


As a man I feel we (us promiscuous ones) do it out of a strong and unmet sexual drive. Pure horninese and hormones. Less so for validation

The slutty women I have come across do fit this comment: they are needy and insecure.


Do you think women don't have hormones?

Do you think women never feel horny?

Did you ever think that maybe a divorced women spent the last couple years in a sexless, ungratifying marriage and may have some strong and unmet sexual drive to release?

You're saying men never sleep with women for validation? To up their ego aka self confidence aka insecurity?

If a man is promiscuous because of sexual drive and hormones, why can't he be in a long term relationship with someone sexually compatible, why the need to sleep with a lot of women to meet that need? It's beyond hormones, it's validation, ego driven, confidence boosting validation.

But a woman doing the same is "needy and insecure". She should only have her sexual needs, horniness, and hormones met in a long term relationship lest she be a slut.

FFS


Males desire much more variety in sexual partners than women. This is not just my opinion, it has been studied.

Of course there are some women who desire a lot of sexual variety but they are in the minority.

You keep trying to make equivalences between male and female sexual behavior when they are inherently different. Everyone knows this.


You are clearly only considering youth not middle age.
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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


Women will continue asking that question until the end of time and I won't change a thing. We men view women promiscuous women as sluts period. Yes it's a double standard get over it.
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Women enjoy a renewed sex drive past 40 especially if they are divorced. Divorced women past 40 are having the best time of their lives. They be f***king so many younger men and having all kind of orgasms. I am sure my ex wife is having the time of her life. I am 45 and I will be blunt and honest I don't have the stamina or sex drive of a 24 years old man. I am in great shape and very active but I am just not the same sexually. At my age now I stopped asking women after sex how they enjoyed cause they will probably lie to me. I wish I could go back to being 25 I would have had more sex if I knew I would have a so so libido at 45.

So if you are a woman in your 40s, 30s, 50s go f***k as many younger guys as you can because you are lucky enough that your sexual peak is much later than us guys. I am not kidding my ex's wife pussy fell better tighter and wetter at 43 than 33.

So OP don't feel any shame. When it comes to sex I want everyone to enjoy it as much as they can. Sex is great!
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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


As a man I feel we (us promiscuous ones) do it out of a strong and unmet sexual drive. Pure horninese and hormones. Less so for validation

The slutty women I have come across do fit this comment: they are needy and insecure.


Do you think women don't have hormones?

Do you think women never feel horny?

Did you ever think that maybe a divorced women spent the last couple years in a sexless, ungratifying marriage and may have some strong and unmet sexual drive to release?

You're saying men never sleep with women for validation? To up their ego aka self confidence aka insecurity?

If a man is promiscuous because of sexual drive and hormones, why can't he be in a long term relationship with someone sexually compatible, why the need to sleep with a lot of women to meet that need? It's beyond hormones, it's validation, ego driven, confidence boosting validation.

But a woman doing the same is "needy and insecure". She should only have her sexual needs, horniness, and hormones met in a long term relationship lest she be a slut.

FFS


Males desire much more variety in sexual partners than women. This is not just my opinion, it has been studied.

Of course there are some women who desire a lot of sexual variety but they are in the minority.

You keep trying to make equivalences between male and female sexual behavior when they are inherently different. Everyone knows this.


Now you're shifting from horny and hormones v/s needy and insecure over to "sexual variety" as a desire.

Again, women cannot also have desires? Maybe it's not a need for variety but just a hey I'm in the mood and he looks like he could satisfy me desire.

It's fine if you want to continue calling women sluts for because they like sex. But just admit that it's on you and your inherent bias and your inherent misogynist views. Stop trying to rationalize that men's behavior is okay because "horny, hormones, variety".

You think women are who like sex are sluts. Period. That is your world view, the world view you will pass on to your sons and daughters.

And it'd be great if you put that front and center on your dating profile.

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Anonymous wrote:Women enjoy a renewed sex drive past 40 especially if they are divorced. Divorced women past 40 are having the best time of their lives. They be f***king so many younger men and having all kind of orgasms. I am sure my ex wife is having the time of her life. I am 45 and I will be blunt and honest I don't have the stamina or sex drive of a 24 years old man. I am in great shape and very active but I am just not the same sexually. At my age now I stopped asking women after sex how they enjoyed cause they will probably lie to me. I wish I could go back to being 25 I would have had more sex if I knew I would have a so so libido at 45.

So if you are a woman in your 40s, 30s, 50s go f***k as many younger guys as you can because you are lucky enough that your sexual peak is much later than us guys. I am not kidding my ex's wife pussy fell better tighter and wetter at 43 than 33.

So OP don't feel any shame. When it comes to sex I want everyone to enjoy it as much as they can. Sex is great!


Brother. You are doing it wrong. I’m almost 50. 20lbs overweight. Don’t work out pretty much a couch potato most of the times. When I have sex 2-3 times a week it’s on average 6-8hours long and the older 40+ women love it. The under 30 girls can’t keep up usually. I tend to avoid the 30s girls as they are often much more relationship marriage and baby oriented.

No 20yr old stud your ex wife is banging does that. He pile drives her a few times a night like a porn star maybe. Is he able to keep her on 6hour wave of orgasmic pleasure? Doubt it.

The secret? I learned that amazing sex is not just pumping away piv. Or even going down on each other for hours on end. It’s a continuous exchange of energy. Sexual energy. Intimate energy. It is 80% mental. Guys 40+ should have a couple of decades of experience by now. Instead we have guys lamenting their “performance” or their need for viagra or blaming everything on porn cheating wives and sluts who don’t call them back after a few mediocre dates 😂
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Anonymous wrote:Women enjoy a renewed sex drive past 40 especially if they are divorced. Divorced women past 40 are having the best time of their lives. They be f***king so many younger men and having all kind of orgasms. I am sure my ex wife is having the time of her life. I am 45 and I will be blunt and honest I don't have the stamina or sex drive of a 24 years old man. I am in great shape and very active but I am just not the same sexually. At my age now I stopped asking women after sex how they enjoyed cause they will probably lie to me. I wish I could go back to being 25 I would have had more sex if I knew I would have a so so libido at 45.

So if you are a woman in your 40s, 30s, 50s go f***k as many younger guys as you can because you are lucky enough that your sexual peak is much later than us guys. I am not kidding my ex's wife pussy fell better tighter and wetter at 43 than 33.

So OP don't feel any shame. When it comes to sex I want everyone to enjoy it as much as they can. Sex is great!


Brother. You are doing it wrong. I’m almost 50. 20lbs overweight. Don’t work out pretty much a couch potato most of the times. When I have sex 2-3 times a week it’s on average 6-8hours long and the older 40+ women love it. The under 30 girls can’t keep up usually. I tend to avoid the 30s girls as they are often much more relationship marriage and baby oriented.

No 20yr old stud your ex wife is banging does that. He pile drives her a few times a night like a porn star maybe. Is he able to keep her on 6hour wave of orgasmic pleasure? Doubt it.

The secret? I learned that amazing sex is not just pumping away piv. Or even going down on each other for hours on end. It’s a continuous exchange of energy. Sexual energy. Intimate energy. It is 80% mental. Guys 40+ should have a couple of decades of experience by now. Instead we have guys lamenting their “performance” or their need for viagra or blaming everything on porn cheating wives and sluts who don’t call them back after a few mediocre dates 😂


Brother thanks for sharing your tips. I need them lol. You have made some good points. I have strong erections 7 out of 10 times so sometimes I kind rush lol while the erection is still strong. But like you said the key is the continuous exchange of energy..
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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


As a man I feel we (us promiscuous ones) do it out of a strong and unmet sexual drive. Pure horninese and hormones. Less so for validation

The slutty women I have come across do fit this comment: they are needy and insecure.


Do you think women don't have hormones?

Do you think women never feel horny?

Did you ever think that maybe a divorced women spent the last couple years in a sexless, ungratifying marriage and may have some strong and unmet sexual drive to release?

You're saying men never sleep with women for validation? To up their ego aka self confidence aka insecurity?

If a man is promiscuous because of sexual drive and hormones, why can't he be in a long term relationship with someone sexually compatible, why the need to sleep with a lot of women to meet that need? It's beyond hormones, it's validation, ego driven, confidence boosting validation.

But a woman doing the same is "needy and insecure". She should only have her sexual needs, horniness, and hormones met in a long term relationship lest she be a slut.

FFS


Males desire much more variety in sexual partners than women. This is not just my opinion, it has been studied.

Of course there are some women who desire a lot of sexual variety but they are in the minority.

You keep trying to make equivalences between male and female sexual behavior when they are inherently different. Everyone knows this.


Now you're shifting from horny and hormones v/s needy and insecure over to "sexual variety" as a desire.

Again, women cannot also have desires? Maybe it's not a need for variety but just a hey I'm in the mood and he looks like he could satisfy me desire.

It's fine if you want to continue calling women sluts for because they like sex. But just admit that it's on you and your inherent bias and your inherent misogynist views. Stop trying to rationalize that men's behavior is okay because "horny, hormones, variety".

You think women are who like sex are sluts. Period. That is your world view, the world view you will pass on to your sons and daughters.

And it'd be great if you put that front and center on your dating profile.



Of course women have sexual desires. On average, women desire sex with committed partners while men desire more sexual variety. For example many are happy to have sex with someone they would never date and don’t even like very much and often pursue such arrangements. This has been researched.

I never called women who like sex sluts, nor do I condone inappropriate male sexual behaviors. I am pointing out that women often engage in promiscuous sexual behaviors for reasons other than sexual desire, which often result in harmful outcomes.

As a married woman, I don’t have a dating profile.
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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


As a man I feel we (us promiscuous ones) do it out of a strong and unmet sexual drive. Pure horninese and hormones. Less so for validation

The slutty women I have come across do fit this comment: they are needy and insecure.


Do you think women don't have hormones?

Do you think women never feel horny?

Did you ever think that maybe a divorced women spent the last couple years in a sexless, ungratifying marriage and may have some strong and unmet sexual drive to release?

You're saying men never sleep with women for validation? To up their ego aka self confidence aka insecurity?

If a man is promiscuous because of sexual drive and hormones, why can't he be in a long term relationship with someone sexually compatible, why the need to sleep with a lot of women to meet that need? It's beyond hormones, it's validation, ego driven, confidence boosting validation.

But a woman doing the same is "needy and insecure". She should only have her sexual needs, horniness, and hormones met in a long term relationship lest she be a slut.

FFS


Males desire much more variety in sexual partners than women. This is not just my opinion, it has been studied.

Of course there are some women who desire a lot of sexual variety but they are in the minority.

You keep trying to make equivalences between male and female sexual behavior when they are inherently different. Everyone knows this.


Now you're shifting from horny and hormones v/s needy and insecure over to "sexual variety" as a desire.

Again, women cannot also have desires? Maybe it's not a need for variety but just a hey I'm in the mood and he looks like he could satisfy me desire.

It's fine if you want to continue calling women sluts for because they like sex. But just admit that it's on you and your inherent bias and your inherent misogynist views. Stop trying to rationalize that men's behavior is okay because "horny, hormones, variety".

You think women are who like sex are sluts. Period. That is your world view, the world view you will pass on to your sons and daughters.

And it'd be great if you put that front and center on your dating profile.



Of course women have sexual desires. On average, women desire sex with committed partners while men desire more sexual variety. For example many are happy to have sex with someone they would never date and don’t even like very much and often pursue such arrangements. This has been researched.

I never called women who like sex sluts, nor do I condone inappropriate male sexual behaviors. I am pointing out that women often engage in promiscuous sexual behaviors for reasons other than sexual desire, which often result in harmful outcomes.

As a married woman, I don’t have a dating profile.


You are replying to a thread. In this thread the person I responded to referred to “slutty women”

Respond as DP or start your on thread.

Nothing like a woman coming on here to join men in judging other women.

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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


Women will continue asking that question until the end of time and I won't change a thing. We men view women promiscuous women as sluts period. Yes it's a double standard get over it.

I will not get over it. And I also will not judge an adult for their sexual behavior which is their choice and right, unlike you.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


Women will continue asking that question until the end of time and I won't change a thing. We men view women promiscuous women as sluts period. Yes it's a double standard get over it.


Dp no I will not get over it. Either they are both sluts or they both are not.

Tired of this sexism.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


As a guy I can understand thinking less of her if she didn’t like her behavior but kept doing it anyway. But if she slept with 30 guys in a year and felt good about herself, more power to her!

Finally, an intelligent and enlightened man posting!
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


Women will continue asking that question until the end of time and I won't change a thing. We men view women promiscuous women as sluts period. Yes it's a double standard get over it.


Dp no I will not get over it. Either they are both sluts or they both are not.

Tired of this sexism.


I still think you should get over it. But I also admire how much you fight for your right.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


Women will continue asking that question until the end of time and I won't change a thing. We men view women promiscuous women as sluts period. Yes it's a double standard get over it.


Dp no I will not get over it. Either they are both sluts or they both are not.

Tired of this sexism.


DP also. Agreed it should be the same for both but disagree about judging someone else’s sexual choices.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My wife's best friend was a nerdy (but hot) goodie two shoes her whole life. She and her DH divorced amicably and she was quite depressed at her stage at 33. She had slept with 7 men at that point.

She slept with, I kid you not, at least 2 dozen men in the first year of her singledom.

I'll be honest. I thought less of her for it. And she grew very upset with herself. I think she thoiught it would bring something it didn't.


Why would you think less of her PP?


People never respect women who sleep around for validation.

Promiscuous women are rarely confident and independent, usually they are needy and insecure.

And what about men who do the same?


As a man I feel we (us promiscuous ones) do it out of a strong and unmet sexual drive. Pure horninese and hormones. Less so for validation

The slutty women I have come across do fit this comment: they are needy and insecure.

Ridiculous and sexist. Think about what you wrote here PP. you can’t seriously think that women don’t have sexual drives, hormones and hormones?!
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