Bumkini

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Anonymous wrote:It's the fashion and they don't blink an eye at it just like we don't blink an eye at seeing women's ankles when in certain times and cultures it would be horrifying. As for their parents seeing them, they really don't care about that either. Why should they be embarrassed? She doesn't feel like she's flashing people. You do have problems if you find this disturbing.

Go look at a ton of pictures of competitive divers. Go to brazil. This is a you problem and not a her problem. Personally I did a double-take the first few times and now it doesn't even register as a pool norm.

You don’t need to go to Brazil they are becoming common here. Miami beaches are full of topless females with thong bottoms. I wouldn’t want a teen to wear it.

Isn’t a bumkini a wax job in the bum area?

Drug murders and street crime are also popular in Miami and Rio - it’s not persuasive to say teens wear thongs there.

Also, if you’ve ACTUALLY been to Brazil, you’d know that most people are not wearing thongs. They just wear normal bathing suits. The men wear more briefs, but even they were board shorts.

Stop projecting your weird fantasies on other countries.

Read the post and tell me where it says teens wear thongs in Brazil.



I hate how small the front has gotten. Women aren’t just standing there posing. They are moving around, swimming, doesn’t take much for that to move

I meant this thong bottom …

Gross.

[Anonymous]

PSA: There is no such thing as “unwanted attention” when you’re wearing a bathing suit that literally leaves your ass completely exposed.

That’s what women/teenage girls wear when they *want* attention. If you want to be in control of from whom you *receive* this attention… that’s what the privacy of your own home/own yard/own pool is for.

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Anonymous wrote:It's the fashion and they don't blink an eye at it just like we don't blink an eye at seeing women's ankles when in certain times and cultures it would be horrifying. As for their parents seeing them, they really don't care about that either. Why should they be embarrassed? She doesn't feel like she's flashing people. You do have problems if you find this disturbing.

Go look at a ton of pictures of competitive divers. Go to brazil. This is a you problem and not a her problem. Personally I did a double-take the first few times and now it doesn't even register as a pool norm.

You don’t need to go to Brazil they are becoming common here. Miami beaches are full of topless females with thong bottoms. I wouldn’t want a teen to wear it.

Isn’t a bumkini a wax job in the bum area?

Drug murders and street crime are also popular in Miami and Rio - it’s not persuasive to say teens wear thongs there.

Also, if you’ve ACTUALLY been to Brazil, you’d know that most people are not wearing thongs. They just wear normal bathing suits. The men wear more briefs, but even they were board shorts.

Stop projecting your weird fantasies on other countries.

Read the post and tell me where it says teens wear thongs in Brazil.



I hate how small the front has gotten. Women aren’t just standing there posing. They are moving around, swimming, doesn’t take much for that to move

I meant this thong bottom …

Trash.

Always choose classy over trashy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:PSA: There is no such thing as “unwanted attention” when you’re wearing a bathing suit that literally leaves your ass completely exposed.

That’s what women/teenage girls wear when they *want* attention. If you want to be in control of from whom you *receive* this attention… that’s what the privacy of your own home/own yard/own pool is for.

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I think it's hilarious that the "enlightened" DCUM consensus is that parents should let their daughters go around in public with their entire butt hanging out. Setting reasonable limits on teen behavior is good parenting. I get that some parents will decide this is a battle they don't want or care to fight, but saying it's misogynistic to set reasonable standards of modesty for a 15 year old is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's hilarious that the "enlightened" DCUM consensus is that parents should let their daughters go around in public with their entire butt hanging out. Setting reasonable limits on teen behavior is good parenting. I get that some parents will decide this is a battle they don't want or care to fight, but saying it's misogynistic to set reasonable standards of modesty for a 15 year old is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's hilarious that the "enlightened" DCUM consensus is that parents should let their daughters go around in public with their entire butt hanging out. Setting reasonable limits on teen behavior is good parenting. I get that some parents will decide this is a battle they don't want or care to fight, but saying it's misogynistic to set reasonable standards of modesty for a 15 year old is ridiculous.

+1.

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Anonymous wrote:OP is butthurt with anyone who doesn't agree with her. She came in with the intention to ass-whoop rather than getting well-rounded perspectives.

Can you stop using that juvenile expression. “ butt hurt” really?

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's hilarious that the "enlightened" DCUM consensus is that parents should let their daughters go around in public with their entire butt hanging out. Setting reasonable limits on teen behavior is good parenting. I get that some parents will decide this is a battle they don't want or care to fight, but saying it's misogynistic to set reasonable standards of modesty for a 15 year old is ridiculous.

Agree. Women are flashing their asses FOR MEN. It's not trying to control what women wear, it's pointing out to women why don't you think about what you're wearing and why. The day men also walk around in these suits is the day we should all have no problem with it.

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Anonymous wrote:Tell her every time she dresses like that some dirty old man will be masturb8ing to that image, killing half a dozen kittens later that night to the memory of her

Dirty old men will masturbate to images of literal children, girls in full Amish clothing, etc.

well at 15 is literally a child

No, it’s not helpful to conflate a 5 year old with a 15 year old. The latter has breasts, hips, pubic hair, and is menstruating. They may be emotionally immature, but they are fully sexually mature.

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Anonymous wrote:What I find troubling about it is body positivity and fashion and trends always seem to err on the side of girls and women being half naked while men are well covered.


Hmmmm…pretty convenient.

If this is feminism and body positivity and sticking it to the man, well it kind of sucks.

As for OP, I’d just let her wear it but let her know she might get some comments and looks she doesn’t like and how to handle them.

And body positivity doesn't mean you HAVE to display your body, it means you shouldn't feel ashamed of your body. Being proud of who you are and what you look like has nothing to do with whether or not you were skimpy clothes.

I agree, but teens and tweens are generally not capable of making independent decisions. All my 13-year old wants to wear is whatever she things everyone else will wear. If that's a baggy shirt, fine. If that's a crop top, fine. I think we're all blinking at reality a little bit when we say that, oh, these girls have agency and are making choices and we should support that. And I agree with PP that it's, to say the least, odd, that boys choices almost uniformly result in them wearing comfortable modest clothes, whereas girls' "choices" result in them wearing stuff that's creeping up their ass into their buttcrack. Maybe they are all choosing that as an empowered body-positive step. Or maybe some creepy old men in charge of the fashion industry have decided that's what to sell them, and they all follow along because they are terrified of being different at that age.

I have another daughter who is borderline autistic and doesn't care much what other people think, and she never chooses the thing that is creeping up her butt.

I'm not OP, and I'm not fighting this battle with my teen, but I am observing that fashion is still selling women and girls an image of themselves that is very tied to the male gaze. I just don't believe that this is the end-goal for feminism.

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I mean… think about it. Who are the ultimate winners in the sex positive women, anything goes ladies! movement (ahem anal and choking and all sorts of other ridiculous crap that no one will ever convince me the average woman would ever choose to do if it weren’t for societal pressure), and the birth control revolution, and the “sex work is WORK!” nonsense? Answer: MEN.

Gullible women are taking their BS hook, line, and sinker. There is a huge expanse between virginal prude and whatever is happening these days. But no, if one doesn’t agree with going to one extreme that must mean one is the other extreme.

If woman want to wear ridiculously small things, that's fine and I can see how that's freeing and whatever... but you should not be naive about what men are thinking. And it's nothing you would ever want to do anything to encourage anyone ever to think about your daughter. So, celebrate the freedom that you CAN wear anything, but please, please think twice before you let your daughters do it.

Op here. Thank you. DD is our first child and we are navigating this. She is a cute kid with a muscular body gained through her activities. She likes boys and has been on dates (supervised ) but she still has a baby tooth and still likes to hug her teddy as she falls asleep.
I was hoping that coming here would help and thankfully it has. We were looking for experienced folks to give us insight. I didn't expect to get into a gender battle. I don't even think it is necessary to do so.

She’s 15 and you are treating her like a baby and behaving poorly. Bringing up sex offenders is unreal. Raising her to feel like her clothes demean her and could get her assaulted?!? Yuck

Mom of 14, 18, and 22yr old girls

This. Calling her 15 year old a “little young girl” is creepily infantilizing.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What I find troubling about it is body positivity and fashion and trends always seem to err on the side of girls and women being half naked while men are well covered.


Hmmmm…pretty convenient.

If this is feminism and body positivity and sticking it to the man, well it kind of sucks.

As for OP, I’d just let her wear it but let her know she might get some comments and looks she doesn’t like and how to handle them.

And body positivity doesn't mean you HAVE to display your body, it means you shouldn't feel ashamed of your body. Being proud of who you are and what you look like has nothing to do with whether or not you were skimpy clothes.

I agree, but teens and tweens are generally not capable of making independent decisions. All my 13-year old wants to wear is whatever she things everyone else will wear. If that's a baggy shirt, fine. If that's a crop top, fine. I think we're all blinking at reality a little bit when we say that, oh, these girls have agency and are making choices and we should support that. And I agree with PP that it's, to say the least, odd, that boys choices almost uniformly result in them wearing comfortable modest clothes, whereas girls' "choices" result in them wearing stuff that's creeping up their ass into their buttcrack. Maybe they are all choosing that as an empowered body-positive step. Or maybe some creepy old men in charge of the fashion industry have decided that's what to sell them, and they all follow along because they are terrified of being different at that age.

I have another daughter who is borderline autistic and doesn't care much what other people think, and she never chooses the thing that is creeping up her butt.

I'm not OP, and I'm not fighting this battle with my teen, but I am observing that fashion is still selling women and girls an image of themselves that is very tied to the male gaze. I just don't believe that this is the end-goal for feminism.

+1

I mean… think about it. Who are the ultimate winners in the sex positive women, anything goes ladies! movement (ahem anal and choking and all sorts of other ridiculous crap that no one will ever convince me the average woman would ever choose to do if it weren’t for societal pressure), and the birth control revolution, and the “sex work is WORK!” nonsense? Answer: MEN.

Gullible women are taking their BS hook, line, and sinker. There is a huge expanse between virginal prude and whatever is happening these days. But no, if one doesn’t agree with going to one extreme that must mean one is the other extreme.

If woman want to wear ridiculously small things, that's fine and I can see how that's freeing and whatever... but you should not be naive about what men are thinking. And it's nothing you would ever want to do anything to encourage anyone ever to think about your daughter. So, celebrate the freedom that you CAN wear anything, but please, please think twice before you let your daughters do it.

Op here. Thank you. DD is our first child and we are navigating this. She is a cute kid with a muscular body gained through her activities. She likes boys and has been on dates (supervised ) but she still has a baby tooth and still likes to hug her teddy as she falls asleep.
I was hoping that coming here would help and thankfully it has. We were looking for experienced folks to give us insight. I didn't expect to get into a gender battle. I don't even think it is necessary to do so.

She’s 15 and you are treating her like a baby and behaving poorly. Bringing up sex offenders is unreal. Raising her to feel like her clothes demean her and could get her assaulted?!? Yuck

Mom of 14, 18, and 22yr old girls

They could get her assaulted. You are behaving poorly. You could have just shared what you thought without putting me down. But you couldn't huh?

I don't want to get between you two, but you are right, they could get her assaulted.

No, they could assault her. Nothing about her behavior causes her to “get assaulted.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:It's the fashion and they don't blink an eye at it just like we don't blink an eye at seeing women's ankles when in certain times and cultures it would be horrifying. As for their parents seeing them, they really don't care about that either. Why should they be embarrassed? She doesn't feel like she's flashing people. You do have problems if you find this disturbing.

Go look at a ton of pictures of competitive divers. Go to brazil. This is a you problem and not a her problem. Personally I did a double-take the first few times and now it doesn't even register as a pool norm.

You don’t need to go to Brazil they are becoming common here. Miami beaches are full of topless females with thong bottoms. I wouldn’t want a teen to wear it.

Isn’t a bumkini a wax job in the bum area?

Drug murders and street crime are also popular in Miami and Rio - it’s not persuasive to say teens wear thongs there.

Also, if you’ve ACTUALLY been to Brazil, you’d know that most people are not wearing thongs. They just wear normal bathing suits. The men wear more briefs, but even they were board shorts.

Stop projecting your weird fantasies on other countries.

Not true. At all.

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Teens do not get assaulted by what they wear or what they say or what they do.

They get assaulted because men think they own woman. That’s it

Stop putting in Brazilian thong bikinis and comparing it to the cheeky bikini bottoms teens are wearing.

Girls wear most things to impress girls and peers. Not about men

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Anonymous wrote:Teens do not get assaulted by what they wear or what they say or what they do.

They get assaulted because men think they own woman. That’s it

Stop putting in Brazilian thong bikinis and comparing it to the cheeky bikini bottoms teens are wearing.

Girls wear most things to impress girls and peers. Not about men

Huh? Disagree with this completely. I was very pretty when I was young. I wore what I did to get male attention. I loved male attention. I could care less what other women thought.

Just being honest here.