Just for laughs - a sex talk with my tween

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Anonymous wrote:Research shows that kids who are uninformed about sex are more frequently victims of rape and sexual violence then kids who are informed.

At the least, if you want to keep your kid dumb think about letting them know about how to protect themselves.

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30 years working with sex offenders, but feel free to google that.

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My DS is in 9th grade and we have had conversations already, of course. They just covered a lot of this in his health class and the county requires the school to allow the parents to opt out!!! in 9th grade!!!! This should be mandatory for kids in HS with no option to opt-out.

If my tax dollars are going to WIC to pay for babies to eat, they should also be spent educating kids about where babies come from.

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I just had a repressed memory come to light with a pp. My child was in a summer camp program in which they went swimming every day. She came home one afternoon and told me one of the campers asked her to "kiss their privates" when they were in the pool. She was only 6. My immediate thought was oh, maybe they said kick my privates (as they were swimming underwater between legs, something I used to do as a kid - see how many people you could swim under before you needed air). In the next few years, she played doctor with a neighborhood kid and a friend's child, so I revisited that incident and learned it was kiss not kick. She always told me about things after they happened. We took her to therapy and it was determined she was just doing normal kid things and that the camp experience may or may not have caused her to experiment sooner. Or possibly her ADHD mind kept her from totally understanding and respecting boundaries. She was a very difficult and sexual adolescent, partially blamed on her ADHD and meds. As it turns out, she is gay. I've always wondered what caused what and if any or all of these things are related. So yes, it's sad we have to tell our kids about things early, but I'll never apologize for over-educating my younger child (who happens to be 18 years younger than said daughter).

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

You can't be serious? Oral without consent, HPV, cancer, UTI, social humiliation by jerks who film or spread rumors on purpose, regret, etc. etc, etc. All the same risks except pregnancy.

The risks of STIs is much lower; and the other things are about getting pressured in general, not oral sex per se.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a friend who is the assistant to a school superintendent in the Midwest. There was an older child who had been molested by an uncle. That older child then molested his 6 year old brother. This younger brother then got other first graders to play his secret game (give him oral sex) in the back of the school bus. There were 3 or 4 kids who tried it. This didn’t come to light until one little boy who had been pressured to do it, but had refused, talked to his mom about what he’d been asked to do and how it made him uncomfortable.

There are 11 year olds watching porn. Just because you don’t talk to your kid about oral sex doesn’t mean they aren’t hearing about it.

OP, good for you for empowering your child with information and letting her know she can talk to you about anything.

What is the point of this post ?

Just let young kids know about good touch/bad touch. No need to teach 6 year olds about specific sexual acts.

The point is that OP wasn’t “pushing oral sex” on her 11 year old; she’s educating her child in an age appropriate way and making sure the lines of communication are open, so that her child knows they can come to her with questions. It’s a bad idea to pretend an 11 year old won’t know anything about oral sex as long as parents keep it a secret.

according to OP, her child has no interest in sex, she pushed the topic on her because "she she read some middle schoolers are doing it". i sure hope she cover threesomes, choking etc as well, because someone somewhere is doing it.

Right? And OP thinks its cute that her DD came away with a completely incorrect understanding (that it is not enjoyable.) Clearly her DD wasn’t ready for this level of detail.

Of course an 11 yo is going to think it’s gross and doesn’t sound enjoyable. It would be very concerning if a child that age thought otherwise. My 10 yo still doesn’t understand why anyone uses birth control, because “why would you do THAT unless you are trying to make a baby?”

OP’s kid had an age-appropriate reaction to the information given to her.

So what’s the point of bringing it up then? I actually think the scare tactic approach when they are too young to actually understand can be counterproductive for the conversations you actually do need to have when they are sexually active or closer to it.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

LOOK IT UP: herpes, HPV, yeast infections, UTIs just to name a few. There is virtually no difference between the risk of oral and intercourse other than pregnancy, BRO. You sound like a sexual predator, actually.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

LOOK IT UP: herpes, HPV, yeast infections, UTIs just to name a few. There is virtually no difference between the risk of oral and intercourse other than pregnancy, BRO. You sound like a sexual predator, actually.

they’ve researched it - there’s basically no HIV risk in oral sex. of course you CAN get other STDs but the rate is really low. how many among us actually use dental dams, lol. HPV is probably the biggest risk but you’re getting your kid vaccinated, right?

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

LOOK IT UP: herpes, HPV, yeast infections, UTIs just to name a few. There is virtually no difference between the risk of oral and intercourse other than pregnancy, BRO. You sound like a sexual predator, actually.

they’ve researched it - there’s basically no HIV risk in oral sex. of course you CAN get other STDs but the rate is really low. how many among us actually use dental dams, lol. HPV is probably the biggest risk but you’re getting your kid vaccinated, right?

Never mentioned HIV. And no the rate is not very low. Again, you keep coming back with more and more dumb stuff. Not sure if you're advocating that 11 year old girls should have oral sex at this point because it's safer or that they shouldn't learn about it at all. Either way, you sound like a creep.

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Anonymous wrote:Research shows that kids who are uninformed about sex are more frequently victims of rape and sexual violence then kids who are informed.

At the least, if you want to keep your kid dumb think about letting them know about how to protect themselves.

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30 years working with sex offenders, but feel free to google that.

So your experience is Irelevant for a vast majority of kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

LOOK IT UP: herpes, HPV, yeast infections, UTIs just to name a few. There is virtually no difference between the risk of oral and intercourse other than pregnancy, BRO. You sound like a sexual predator, actually.

they’ve researched it - there’s basically no HIV risk in oral sex. of course you CAN get other STDs but the rate is really low. how many among us actually use dental dams, lol. HPV is probably the biggest risk but you’re getting your kid vaccinated, right?

Never mentioned HIV. And no the rate is not very low. Again, you keep coming back with more and more dumb stuff. Not sure if you're advocating that 11 year old girls should have oral sex at this point because it's safer or that they shouldn't learn about it at all. Either way, you sound like a creep.

So the only way to be non-creepy here is to talk to your daughter in a very negative way about oral sex at a young age? I truly believe that kind of approach is actually a way to make girls/young women less secure and knowledgeable about sex, not more.

It’s a fact that women enjoy oral sex. Also a fact that in many respects oral sex is less risky. Now I am not saying *at all* that this is the kind of discussion to have with an 11 year old girl. But I also think it’s wrong to just couch it in scare tactic one-sides terms (“oral sex means boys will try to force you to give gross blow jobs!!!”)

If I had a daughter (I only have a DS) I would probably at 11 be more focused on bodily autonomy and on a very general level that “sex is supposed to feel good” and that people have sex in different ways. The main thing I’d want her to know is that she has a right to say no to anything.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

LOOK IT UP: herpes, HPV, yeast infections, UTIs just to name a few. There is virtually no difference between the risk of oral and intercourse other than pregnancy, BRO. You sound like a sexual predator, actually.

they’ve researched it - there’s basically no HIV risk in oral sex. of course you CAN get other STDs but the rate is really low. how many among us actually use dental dams, lol. HPV is probably the biggest risk but you’re getting your kid vaccinated, right?

Never mentioned HIV. And no the rate is not very low. Again, you keep coming back with more and more dumb stuff. Not sure if you're advocating that 11 year old girls should have oral sex at this point because it's safer or that they shouldn't learn about it at all. Either way, you sound like a creep.

So the only way to be non-creepy here is to talk to your daughter in a very negative way about oral sex at a young age? I truly believe that kind of approach is actually a way to make girls/young women less secure and knowledgeable about sex, not more.

It’s a fact that women enjoy oral sex. Also a fact that in many respects oral sex is less risky. Now I am not saying *at all* that this is the kind of discussion to have with an 11 year old girl. But I also think it’s wrong to just couch it in scare tactic one-sides terms (“oral sex means boys will try to force you to give gross blow jobs!!!”)

If I had a daughter (I only have a DS) I would probably at 11 be more focused on bodily autonomy and on a very general level that “sex is supposed to feel good” and that people have sex in different ways. The main thing I’d want her to know is that she has a right to say no to anything.

Who is talking negatively about sex? Educating them about STDs, pregnancy, emotional risks, etc is your job as a parent. It's your duty. Presenting the facts is the opposite of being negative.

I guess you're right that it's less risky in one respect which is that it doesn't result in pregnancy. Everything else is pretty equal.

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Anonymous wrote:Op here. I told her there was another type of sex I didn’t know if she’d learned about, but that she shouldn’t ever do it if she’s pressured and if someday she chooses to do it she should know you can still catch diseases and need to protect yourself. I’d rather have that conversation when it’s not something she’d consider than wish I had told her later.

yeah, thanks. now your child is going to break the news to my child about all that stuff my child doesn't care about. i am sure she will focus on the exact elements you emphasized and flawlessly relay your perspective.

I would so much rather my kid's friends shared what they learned about this from their parents than from older siblings or TV. If you think your 11 year old isn't going to be hearing about this anyway whether OP educated her daughter or not, then you are part of the problem.

no, parents eager to talk oral sex with their uninterested 11 year olds are the problem.

You know that if you wait until your kid is interested it may already be too late, right?

you know that lectured don't work? that your child doesn't need more more charts and more information?

Part of parenting is to have uncomfortable conversations with your kids. Feel free to call it lecturing but it is my job as a parent. As the parent of MS aged girls it is important for them to know that sex encompasses multiple activities so they understand when someone tries to clumsily talk them into something by saying “it’s not really sex, so it’s fine”. But I’m sure burying your head in the sand about what tweens should know about sex will work out great for you.

if you are kids are so dumb to believe stuff like this, no lectures are not going to help them.

Wait, so parents aren’t supposed to talk to their kids about sex in more than basic general terms, but kids are supposed to instinctually understand that oral sex is sex and comes with many of the same risks, emotional or otherwise, as intercourse?

what are the risks of oral sex? weird take.

Many STDs are transmitted through oral sex, it carries the same emotional and physical risks as intercourse. Are you really this dumb?

Oral sex is in fact much lower risk of disease. As for “emotional” risk - that’s pretty subjective and I’m not sure I agree. The real issue is being pressured into anything you don’t want. This also ignores that many women enjoy oral sex.

If it comes down to scaring your 11 year old about blow jobs - no, I do not think that is age-appropriate, accuate sex ed.

You are so utterly uninformed, I don't even know where to begin. I'm guessing you're a guy who just doesn't have a clue.

- look it up. oral sex is a much lower risk for STIs.
- look it up. many/most women find oral sex to be integral to their enjoyment of sex
- the “emotional impact” thing is entirely subjective and depends mainly on people being pressured to do something they don’t want to do (oral or otherwise).

LOOK IT UP: herpes, HPV, yeast infections, UTIs just to name a few. There is virtually no difference between the risk of oral and intercourse other than pregnancy, BRO. You sound like a sexual predator, actually.

they’ve researched it - there’s basically no HIV risk in oral sex. of course you CAN get other STDs but the rate is really low. how many among us actually use dental dams, lol. HPV is probably the biggest risk but you’re getting your kid vaccinated, right?

Never mentioned HIV. And no the rate is not very low. Again, you keep coming back with more and more dumb stuff. Not sure if you're advocating that 11 year old girls should have oral sex at this point because it's safer or that they shouldn't learn about it at all. Either way, you sound like a creep.

So the only way to be non-creepy here is to talk to your daughter in a very negative way about oral sex at a young age? I truly believe that kind of approach is actually a way to make girls/young women less secure and knowledgeable about sex, not more.

It’s a fact that women enjoy oral sex. Also a fact that in many respects oral sex is less risky. Now I am not saying *at all* that this is the kind of discussion to have with an 11 year old girl. But I also think it’s wrong to just couch it in scare tactic one-sides terms (“oral sex means boys will try to force you to give gross blow jobs!!!”)

If I had a daughter (I only have a DS) I would probably at 11 be more focused on bodily autonomy and on a very general level that “sex is supposed to feel good” and that people have sex in different ways. The main thing I’d want her to know is that she has a right to say no to anything.

Who is talking negatively about sex? Educating them about STDs, pregnancy, emotional risks, etc is your job as a parent. It's your duty. Presenting the facts is the opposite of being negative.

I guess you're right that it's less risky in one respect which is that it doesn't result in pregnancy. Everything else is pretty equal.

Presenting inaccurate or one-sided facts isn’t “educating.” Your facts are not actually facts.