Student apprehended with loaded gun at Gaithersburg High

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

Guns in schools seem to be a common occurrence these days, so having a trained SRO in the school would be better for handling these types of issues.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

They are not being disciplined for dragging a bag. Be real.

It was an incident used to show how cops overstep.

Obviously ridiculous everyone can see that except those who didn’t. When cops overstep teacher are afraid to speak up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I'm resigned that there is not a lot that can be done by schools. Schools are a reflection of the community. To keep all guns out requires making schools like prisons with metal detectors and police. Most students when treated like prisoners will behave like them.

I don't understand this argument. We have cops securing concert halls, airports, and government buildings. No one is complaining about having cops in these places and saying that their presence make these places like prisons.

So you want TSA level security every morning when 3000 kids need to get into MBHS at the exact same time each morning?

Yes, I would if it means keeping students and staff safe. What do you have to hide?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Exactly why CEOs are preferable. If a crime was committed they should report it to MCPD. There are channels for these things, but bringing more guns into schools is never a good thing.

If a gun is in school we need action not a police report.

If MCPD does it's job that should be fine. It's not SROs would do anything. Look at the SRO at Parkland that ran away even.

You need a better talking point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gun control is the only answer. Other countries with national gun control laws don't have these issues.

why can't we do both - have strict gun control and have SROs in schools? Are we too simple to understand that you can have both?

BTW, as a PP stated, Chicago has tight gun control laws, but that hasn't stopped the gun violence.

And this thread is a perfect example of gun control laws in MD not stopping kids from bringing guns to school? Why? Because MD can't stop kids from getting guns 100%. Until they can, SROs in schools are preferable to security guards.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

You can say that now because fortunately, the person did not start shooting up the school. What would've happened had they started shooting? You'd want cops in the school. You won't think, "We shouldn't have SROs because the SRO at Uvalde did nothing." You'd want cops irrespective of what happened in Uvalde.

I don't care about your feelings. I care that my kids are safe in school.

[Anonymous]

The student self reported the gun during a meeting with staff, and the SRO.

Parents were notified of everything with a letter (I'm a parent, I received the letter). Mr. Dimmick and Officer Blackmon (longtime SRO for Gaithersburg) really do a great job for Gaithersburg, have really made great strides for the school (I was also a parent during the last administration). Kudos to both.

According to police, community engagement officers were called to the school at 10:46 a.m. While conducting an investigation, the school’s security team members “made contact with Rivas, conducted a search, and located a loaded handgun in the presence of officers,” according to the statement. Rivas was then arrested.

“We want to thank our school security staff, as well as our Community Education Officers Amy Ovalle and Robert Blackmon, as well as our City of Gaithersburg Police partners, for all their unwavering support as we continue to ensure a safe and secure environment for all our students, staff, and visitors,” Dimmick said in the letter.

During a meeting Monday, Rivas disclosed to school administration and security that he possessed a weapon on school property and willingly handed it over

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

Guns in schools seem to be a common occurrence these days, so having a trained SRO in the school would be better for handling these types of issues.

Agreed. Thats why we have SRO’s. We have SRO’s.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

Teachers aren't responsible for student behavior and discipline. Admin are. Does anyone know if MCAAP wants to send its principals and APs to the police academy as you suggest?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

You can say that now because fortunately, the person did not start shooting up the school. What would've happened had they started shooting? You'd want cops in the school. You won't think, "We shouldn't have SROs because the SRO at Uvalde did nothing." You'd want cops irrespective of what happened in Uvalde.

I don't care about your feelings. I care that my kids are safe in school.

1. We do have cops in school.
2. 1 cop has never stopped a school shooter. Never. Ever.

So if you want your kids to be safe we need ATF to do their job.

You have a cop at the school. What more do you want?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

You can say that now because fortunately, the person did not start shooting up the school. What would've happened had they started shooting? You'd want cops in the school. You won't think, "We shouldn't have SROs because the SRO at Uvalde did nothing." You'd want cops irrespective of what happened in Uvalde.

I don't care about your feelings. I care that my kids are safe in school.

1. We do have cops in school.
2. 1 cop has never stopped a school shooter. Never. Ever.

So if you want your kids to be safe we need ATF to do their job.

You have a cop at the school. What more do you want?

Yes, cops have stopped shooters. Stop with your non-sense. With 2000-3000+ people at an HS, I want multiple police and security. Not just a few. Enough is enough. You may be ok with your kids in an unsafe environment but many of us are not.

Whose child would you like to be raped, assaulted or murdered next? Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

You can say that now because fortunately, the person did not start shooting up the school. What would've happened had they started shooting? You'd want cops in the school. You won't think, "We shouldn't have SROs because the SRO at Uvalde did nothing." You'd want cops irrespective of what happened in Uvalde.

I don't care about your feelings. I care that my kids are safe in school.

1. We do have cops in school.
2. 1 cop has never stopped a school shooter. Never. Ever.

So if you want your kids to be safe we need ATF to do their job.

You have a cop at the school. What more do you want?

Yes, cops have stopped shooters. Stop with your non-sense. With 2000-3000+ people at an HS, I want multiple police and security. Not just a few. Enough is enough. You may be ok with your kids in an unsafe environment but many of us are not.

Whose child would you like to be raped, assaulted or murdered next? Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when.

The anti-police-in-schools crowd don't have the guts to answer these kinds of questions.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

Honestly, I can get onboard with not having SROs/CEOs dole out student discipline. But I will say, I know this fact was a major sticking point for why people were anti-SROs, but it looks like leaving student behavior and discipline in the hands of MCPS admin, who supposedly have the training in teen development you cite, is even worse since all hell has broken loose and teachers are miserable with the system's lax approaches and philosophies.

I’m all for sending cops to get degrees in education or psychology or sending teachers to the police academy.

Very few people are anti-SRO. Just because people saw a problem and made adjustments doesn’t mean they are anti-SRO.

You create schools the size of a small city you get small city problems.

Guns is an ATF issue not a school issue and this situation clearly was handled perfectly.

Guns in schools seem to be a common occurrence these days, so having a trained SRO in the school would be better for handling these types of issues.

Agreed. Thats why we have SRO’s. We have SRO’s.

We have CEOs.

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Anonymous wrote:Unfortunately I'm resigned that there is not a lot that can be done by schools. Schools are a reflection of the community. To keep all guns out requires making schools like prisons with metal detectors and police. Most students when treated like prisoners will behave like them.

I don't understand this argument. We have cops securing concert halls, airports, and government buildings. No one is complaining about having cops in these places and saying that their presence make these places like prisons.

So you want TSA level security every morning when 3000 kids need to get into MBHS at the exact same time each morning?

Yes, schools will be more like prisons and focus less on teaching.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why we need SROs. It shouldn’t be up to school personnel to handle weapons, fights, and drugs. Those are police matters and they are continuously happening in MCPS high schools and middle schools.

My school had a recent gun scare and all classes had to shelter in place until the police arrived. Apparently, students claimed their classmate had a visible gun in their bag. They told their teacher at the start of class. The teacher had to notify the office, who had to call administrators, who then called the police. Luckily, the student turned out to not have a gun. However, that child, his teacher, and his classmates were locked in the classroom for about 20 minutes. That’s how long it took for police to arrive on scene. If we had an SRO, he would’ve been at the classroom in minutes to handle the situation.

This.

Schools have SROs

Not MCPS. We have CEOs. They don't have the same acting capacity as SROs.

It’s not only the same it’s the exactly the same humans.

They have an office now in the school
So they can be in the school instead of in their car.

No, it isn't. They can't walk the halls. They are relegated to an office space.

That’s untrue.

They can discipline… they can walk the halls.

When writing reports they are in an office, they use to sit in their car.

Um.. ok, so why are they called CEOs rather than SROs? What is the difference? Is the renaming just to make the progressives feel better about it? Or is there some difference?

CEO’s cant discipline they can only get involved in crimes.


SROs could discipline kids at will even when they had not committed a crime and SROs were not trained in normal teen development. Like they could discipline a student for dragging his backpack instead of carrying it because they thought it was rude. They could stop them, stand them up against the wall, question them and correct them.., for dragging their backpack. (This is a real incident)

So, when the PP stated "They can discipline…" that was incorrect.

They're trying to mislead people to push their SRO agenda. They probably work for the police union.