FCPS HS Boundary

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Anonymous wrote:Boundary shifts should not affect most people. The people who live on the, well, boundaries, of over enrolled and under enrolled schools are most likely to be effected. They should not lead to bussing in order to address economic or language disparities.

There might be ripple effects as schools that are over enrolled are sent to near by HS/MS/ES, which will impact the enrollment at those schools but those should be relatively small.

And yes, some properties will see a decline in their over all value because of school shifts but that should be a small percentage of the population. Some might see an increase in the value of their house because the school is expected to have better test scores with new students moving in.

This all means that the school board does an extensive boundary study and makes large scale changes. I don't think that they will but it has been long enough and the population has shifted enough that a boundary study is in order.

And my kid is at a school that could be moved, SLHS. I could see them shifting kids to Herndon, Oakton, or Chantilly High School depending on how things play out.

You've posted the same thing before, but none of what you posted actually means that the board will conduct an "extensive boundary study" or "make large scale changes." All it means is that you'd be OK with it.

They are still rookies, or at least most of them are, and still getting their feet wet.

No one in Fairfax County cares about education. The school board is just a front to protect the property values of their largest donors who created the mess we have now.

Of course they do. It's always been a top priority among county residents, even if the School Board sometimes looks out for some communities and not others.

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Anonymous wrote:Boundary shifts should not affect most people. The people who live on the, well, boundaries, of over enrolled and under enrolled schools are most likely to be effected. They should not lead to bussing in order to address economic or language disparities.

There might be ripple effects as schools that are over enrolled are sent to near by HS/MS/ES, which will impact the enrollment at those schools but those should be relatively small.

And yes, some properties will see a decline in their over all value because of school shifts but that should be a small percentage of the population. Some might see an increase in the value of their house because the school is expected to have better test scores with new students moving in.

This all means that the school board does an extensive boundary study and makes large scale changes. I don't think that they will but it has been long enough and the population has shifted enough that a boundary study is in order.

And my kid is at a school that could be moved, SLHS. I could see them shifting kids to Herndon, Oakton, or Chantilly High School depending on how things play out.

You've posted the same thing before, but none of what you posted actually means that the board will conduct an "extensive boundary study" or "make large scale changes." All it means is that you'd be OK with it.

They are still rookies, or at least most of them are, and still getting their feet wet.

No one in Fairfax County cares about education. The school board is just a front to protect the property values of their largest donors who created the mess we have now.

Of course they do. It's always been a top priority among county residents, even if the School Board sometimes looks out for some communities and not others.

I don’t think this is true anymore, or it’s much less about education that it was in the past. For example, they replace technology they barely understand or is inferior to previous methods to teach. Pasting and gluing notes or using power point presentations is not a suitable replacement for taking notes that teaches children what to listen for and to take note of. They’ll watch a video and not understand what the take always are. That’s a simple example. They will trot out new shiny tech and people just applaud. They will build an addition on a school and applaud when it will do nothing to affect student scores, but people will applaud because it will improve the curb appeal of neighborhoods.

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Anonymous wrote:Boundary shifts should not affect most people. The people who live on the, well, boundaries, of over enrolled and under enrolled schools are most likely to be effected. They should not lead to bussing in order to address economic or language disparities.

There might be ripple effects as schools that are over enrolled are sent to near by HS/MS/ES, which will impact the enrollment at those schools but those should be relatively small.

And yes, some properties will see a decline in their over all value because of school shifts but that should be a small percentage of the population. Some might see an increase in the value of their house because the school is expected to have better test scores with new students moving in.

This all means that the school board does an extensive boundary study and makes large scale changes. I don't think that they will but it has been long enough and the population has shifted enough that a boundary study is in order.

And my kid is at a school that could be moved, SLHS. I could see them shifting kids to Herndon, Oakton, or Chantilly High School depending on how things play out.

You've posted the same thing before, but none of what you posted actually means that the board will conduct an "extensive boundary study" or "make large scale changes." All it means is that you'd be OK with it.

They are still rookies, or at least most of them are, and still getting their feet wet.

No one in Fairfax County cares about education. The school board is just a front to protect the property values of their largest donors who created the mess we have now.

Of course they do. It's always been a top priority among county residents, even if the School Board sometimes looks out for some communities and not others.

I don’t think this is true anymore, or it’s much less about education that it was in the past. For example, they replace technology they barely understand or is inferior to previous methods to teach. Pasting and gluing notes or using power point presentations is not a suitable replacement for taking notes that teaches children what to listen for and to take note of. They’ll watch a video and not understand what the take always are. That’s a simple example. They will trot out new shiny tech and people just applaud. They will build an addition on a school and applaud when it will do nothing to affect student scores, but people will applaud because it will improve the curb appeal of neighborhoods.

The prior reference to "they" was to Fairfax County residents, not to the School Board members or Gatehouse employees whose decisions you are criticizing.

There will continue to be debates over how best to integrate technology into teaching. People don't universally applaud when students are immersed in technology and/or given "smart" devices; many worry we'll just end up with "smart" devices and dumb kids.

No one should be ashamed of advocating for adequate, nice facilities, even if what happens within the classroom is more important than a building's bells and whistles. It's a bit odd that FCPS is spending a fair amount of money now on security vestibules at many buildings to improve security, yet leaving kids at some schools in detached trailers and modulars.

Having said that, people generally don't want boundary changes. FCPS is like Congress; people may speak negatively of the institution as a whole, but generally like their own schools and school-based administrators and staff.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boundary shifts should not affect most people. The people who live on the, well, boundaries, of over enrolled and under enrolled schools are most likely to be effected. They should not lead to bussing in order to address economic or language disparities.

There might be ripple effects as schools that are over enrolled are sent to near by HS/MS/ES, which will impact the enrollment at those schools but those should be relatively small.

And yes, some properties will see a decline in their over all value because of school shifts but that should be a small percentage of the population. Some might see an increase in the value of their house because the school is expected to have better test scores with new students moving in.

This all means that the school board does an extensive boundary study and makes large scale changes. I don't think that they will but it has been long enough and the population has shifted enough that a boundary study is in order.

And my kid is at a school that could be moved, SLHS. I could see them shifting kids to Herndon, Oakton, or Chantilly High School depending on how things play out.

You've posted the same thing before, but none of what you posted actually means that the board will conduct an "extensive boundary study" or "make large scale changes." All it means is that you'd be OK with it.

They are still rookies, or at least most of them are, and still getting their feet wet.

No one in Fairfax County cares about education. The school board is just a front to protect the property values of their largest donors who created the mess we have now.

Of course they do. It's always been a top priority among county residents, even if the School Board sometimes looks out for some communities and not others.

Nah, they don't care. They waste money on random surveys and changing the names of schools; not to mention online reading resources that are cheap and suck. How about signing all kids up for a library card and give them access to Libby? Or purchasing Reading A-Z instead of MyOn.

No more ESOL - has to be called Multilingual Learner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Boundary shifts should not affect most people. The people who live on the, well, boundaries, of over enrolled and under enrolled schools are most likely to be effected. They should not lead to bussing in order to address economic or language disparities.

There might be ripple effects as schools that are over enrolled are sent to near by HS/MS/ES, which will impact the enrollment at those schools but those should be relatively small.

And yes, some properties will see a decline in their over all value because of school shifts but that should be a small percentage of the population. Some might see an increase in the value of their house because the school is expected to have better test scores with new students moving in.

This all means that the school board does an extensive boundary study and makes large scale changes. I don't think that they will but it has been long enough and the population has shifted enough that a boundary study is in order.

And my kid is at a school that could be moved, SLHS. I could see them shifting kids to Herndon, Oakton, or Chantilly High School depending on how things play out.

You've posted the same thing before, but none of what you posted actually means that the board will conduct an "extensive boundary study" or "make large scale changes." All it means is that you'd be OK with it.

They are still rookies, or at least most of them are, and still getting their feet wet.

No one in Fairfax County cares about education. The school board is just a front to protect the property values of their largest donors who created the mess we have now.

Of course they do. It's always been a top priority among county residents, even if the School Board sometimes looks out for some communities and not others.

Nah, they don't care. They waste money on random surveys and changing the names of schools; not to mention online reading resources that are cheap and suck. How about signing all kids up for a library card and give them access to Libby? Or purchasing Reading A-Z instead of MyOn.

No more ESOL - has to be called Multilingual Learner.

Bah, humbug.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:These all feel the same.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1186169.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1190400.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/1189521.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1188590.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/464420.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1189871.page

Agreed. You should report those to Jeff. I reported this thread for the same reason.

How about just skipping the threads and not reading them, instead of bothering the moderator by tattling?

What happened to grown upping?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Agree. A boundary study could provide insights that have been overlooked.

They looked at rezoning a couple of years ago. You could have attended one of their public surveys and online info sessions to express your support


Redistricting was EXCEPTIONALLY unpopular.

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Anonymous wrote:I find the group that is so desperate to not have the County look at the boundaries hilarious. They really can't believe that there are multiple people who think that the boundaries need to be evaluated and adjusted. The constant claiming of a single poster who is happy with the evaluation is clearly their attempt to try and negate the opinions of people who think differently then they do.

Believe it or not, there are many people who think that the boundaries need to be reevaluated and for a variety of reasons.

For some folks it is about trying to redistribute the poverty in high poverty areas that border higher SES areas.

For some posters it is about decreasing over crowding by moving kids to under enrolled schools that border their area.

Those are the two main reasons that I see from people who support redrawing the boundaries. There might be some other reasons out there as well.

How about engaging in conversation instead of drowning out a different opinion then yours?

Others believe that the main reasons that some people support redrawing the boundaries is that they either anticipate a boost to their own property values, or they don't want to pay the taxes necessary to support treating some schools - the ones that have not been renovated or received additions - fairly, even though many other high schools have received decent renovations or additions (including schools that were not in the 2008 renovation queue that have received additions).

In addition, others believe that the impediments to FCPS - a division that has not been a model of good planning over the past 15+ years when it comes to boundary changes - to successfully pulling off a county-wide redistricting are too great and that it's better for FCPS to limit boundary changes to those situations where they are absolutely necessary.

As for Robinson and Lake Braddock, it's highly unlikely anyone will get moved from Lake Braddock to Robinson unless it somehow occurred as part of a county-wide redistricting, which as noted above is something that's easier to talk about than pull off successfully.

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Well said.

None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

Likewise, if you don't like your current boundary, move.
DP

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I find the group that is so desperate to not have the County look at the boundaries hilarious. They really can't believe that there are multiple people who think that the boundaries need to be evaluated and adjusted. The constant claiming of a single poster who is happy with the evaluation is clearly their attempt to try and negate the opinions of people who think differently then they do.

Believe it or not, there are many people who think that the boundaries need to be reevaluated and for a variety of reasons.

For some folks it is about trying to redistribute the poverty in high poverty areas that border higher SES areas.

For some posters it is about decreasing over crowding by moving kids to under enrolled schools that border their area.

Those are the two main reasons that I see from people who support redrawing the boundaries. There might be some other reasons out there as well.

How about engaging in conversation instead of drowning out a different opinion then yours?

Others believe that the main reasons that some people support redrawing the boundaries is that they either anticipate a boost to their own property values, or they don't want to pay the taxes necessary to support treating some schools - the ones that have not been renovated or received additions - fairly, even though many other high schools have received decent renovations or additions (including schools that were not in the 2008 renovation queue that have received additions).

In addition, others believe that the impediments to FCPS - a division that has not been a model of good planning over the past 15+ years when it comes to boundary changes - to successfully pulling off a county-wide redistricting are too great and that it's better for FCPS to limit boundary changes to those situations where they are absolutely necessary.

As for Robinson and Lake Braddock, it's highly unlikely anyone will get moved from Lake Braddock to Robinson unless it somehow occurred as part of a county-wide redistricting, which as noted above is something that's easier to talk about than pull off successfully.

+1
Well said.

None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

You sound like an old crank who has dedicated themselves to wishing ill on everyone just because you aren’t happy with your own current situation.

+1000
Bitter and resentful.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:These all feel the same.

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1186169.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1190400.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/15/1189521.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1188590.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/464420.page

https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1189871.page

Agreed. You should report those to Jeff. I reported this thread for the same reason.

How about just skipping the threads and not reading them, instead of bothering the moderator by tattling?

What happened to grown upping?

When certain subjects are raised again and again, without bothering to add on to existing threads discussing *the same subject,* the moderator should be informed. That's usually a clear sign of trolling.

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Anonymous wrote:None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

Good luck moving for better schools when you're suddenly underwater on your mortgage because FCPS shifted your home to a school with a 30% ESL rate and your property value tanked by 25%.

Oh well. This is what we’ve voted for in our state and county. Suck it up buttercup. You’re probably wealthier than 95% of the country.

DP, but as pointed out before no one campaigned for county or state office saying they were committed to large-scale school boundary revisions in FCPS.

It's not an issue where you can predict someone's views based on party affiliation. The far left would redistrict to balance demographics in the name of equity. The far right would redistrict to minimize future taxes and spending on facilities. And most people who aren't either far left or far right would probably say only change school boundaries when it's absolutely necessary and continue to renovate and expand schools in the ordinary course to meet current needs and anticipate future ones.

No one should be expanding HS around here. They are already too large. Kids don’t even know half their classmates let alone their classmates’ names.

In any case, the SB is too politically driven to give a wit about education. They are all about their next political position and won’t actually do anything on this topic. I wish they’d stop wasting everyone’s time and emotional capital on boundaries.

Some recent expansions to a design capacity of at least 2500 seats include: Herndon (2779), Madison (2503), Oakton (2646), South Lakes (2717), West Potomac (3049), and West Springfield (2505)

Some ongoing and planned expansions include: Falls Church (2500), Justice (2500), and Centreville (3000)

Schools that were built large include: Lake Braddock (3124), Robinson (2752), South County (2500), and Westfield (2823)

So that cat is out of the bag, and they obviously struggle mightily to find acceptable sites for any new high school. Given all that, it's more than a bit late to start claiming no other schools should be expanded, regardless of their circumstances.

BS. There is no need for size equity.

It's not especially important at the ES or MS level, but it's certainly a consideration at the HS level.

Spending to expand some high schools while blowing off others with an even greater need for additional seats would be the epitome of unfair treatment.

You fill until you hit the limit. Then you decide is it better to cozy up or send your kid elsewhere. Move if you have to. Stop with your calls for equity. Stop wasting tax followers on buildings.

^tax dollars

Spending to ensure HS facilities are generally comparable is an investment in kids and communities. There are huge disparities in facilities within FCPS, just as there are among when it comes to student achievement. A School Board that wants a first-class system pays attention to both.

Smaller schools are more desirable. They also make them more exclusive. Why would anyone want a mega school?

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Anonymous wrote:None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

Good luck moving for better schools when you're suddenly underwater on your mortgage because FCPS shifted your home to a school with a 30% ESL rate and your property value tanked by 25%.

Oh well. This is what we’ve voted for in our state and county. Suck it up buttercup. You’re probably wealthier than 95% of the country.

DP, but as pointed out before no one campaigned for county or state office saying they were committed to large-scale school boundary revisions in FCPS.

It's not an issue where you can predict someone's views based on party affiliation. The far left would redistrict to balance demographics in the name of equity. The far right would redistrict to minimize future taxes and spending on facilities. And most people who aren't either far left or far right would probably say only change school boundaries when it's absolutely necessary and continue to renovate and expand schools in the ordinary course to meet current needs and anticipate future ones.

No one should be expanding HS around here. They are already too large. Kids don’t even know half their classmates let alone their classmates’ names.

In any case, the SB is too politically driven to give a wit about education. They are all about their next political position and won’t actually do anything on this topic. I wish they’d stop wasting everyone’s time and emotional capital on boundaries.

Some recent expansions to a design capacity of at least 2500 seats include: Herndon (2779), Madison (2503), Oakton (2646), South Lakes (2717), West Potomac (3049), and West Springfield (2505)

Some ongoing and planned expansions include: Falls Church (2500), Justice (2500), and Centreville (3000)

Schools that were built large include: Lake Braddock (3124), Robinson (2752), South County (2500), and Westfield (2823)

So that cat is out of the bag, and they obviously struggle mightily to find acceptable sites for any new high school. Given all that, it's more than a bit late to start claiming no other schools should be expanded, regardless of their circumstances.

BS. There is no need for size equity.

It's not especially important at the ES or MS level, but it's certainly a consideration at the HS level.

Spending to expand some high schools while blowing off others with an even greater need for additional seats would be the epitome of unfair treatment.

You fill until you hit the limit. Then you decide is it better to cozy up or send your kid elsewhere. Move if you have to. Stop with your calls for equity. Stop wasting tax followers on buildings.

^tax dollars

Spending to ensure HS facilities are generally comparable is an investment in kids and communities. There are huge disparities in facilities within FCPS, just as there are among when it comes to student achievement. A School Board that wants a first-class system pays attention to both.

Smaller schools are more desirable. They also make them more exclusive. Why would anyone want a mega school?

Yes, those smaller, neglected schools like Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon are so desirable compared to Woodson, West Springfield, and West Potomac.

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Anonymous wrote:None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

Good luck moving for better schools when you're suddenly underwater on your mortgage because FCPS shifted your home to a school with a 30% ESL rate and your property value tanked by 25%.

Oh well. This is what we’ve voted for in our state and county. Suck it up buttercup. You’re probably wealthier than 95% of the country.

DP, but as pointed out before no one campaigned for county or state office saying they were committed to large-scale school boundary revisions in FCPS.

It's not an issue where you can predict someone's views based on party affiliation. The far left would redistrict to balance demographics in the name of equity. The far right would redistrict to minimize future taxes and spending on facilities. And most people who aren't either far left or far right would probably say only change school boundaries when it's absolutely necessary and continue to renovate and expand schools in the ordinary course to meet current needs and anticipate future ones.

No one should be expanding HS around here. They are already too large. Kids don’t even know half their classmates let alone their classmates’ names.

In any case, the SB is too politically driven to give a wit about education. They are all about their next political position and won’t actually do anything on this topic. I wish they’d stop wasting everyone’s time and emotional capital on boundaries.

Some recent expansions to a design capacity of at least 2500 seats include: Herndon (2779), Madison (2503), Oakton (2646), South Lakes (2717), West Potomac (3049), and West Springfield (2505)

Some ongoing and planned expansions include: Falls Church (2500), Justice (2500), and Centreville (3000)

Schools that were built large include: Lake Braddock (3124), Robinson (2752), South County (2500), and Westfield (2823)

So that cat is out of the bag, and they obviously struggle mightily to find acceptable sites for any new high school. Given all that, it's more than a bit late to start claiming no other schools should be expanded, regardless of their circumstances.

BS. There is no need for size equity.

It's not especially important at the ES or MS level, but it's certainly a consideration at the HS level.

Spending to expand some high schools while blowing off others with an even greater need for additional seats would be the epitome of unfair treatment.

You fill until you hit the limit. Then you decide is it better to cozy up or send your kid elsewhere. Move if you have to. Stop with your calls for equity. Stop wasting tax followers on buildings.

^tax dollars

Spending to ensure HS facilities are generally comparable is an investment in kids and communities. There are huge disparities in facilities within FCPS, just as there are among when it comes to student achievement. A School Board that wants a first-class system pays attention to both.

Smaller schools are more desirable. They also make them more exclusive. Why would anyone want a mega school?

Yes, those smaller, neglected schools like Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon are so desirable compared to Woodson, West Springfield, and West Potomac.

Please explain what you mean by neglected and in what ways expansions will improve students overall mental health and academic outcomes.

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Anonymous wrote:None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

Good luck moving for better schools when you're suddenly underwater on your mortgage because FCPS shifted your home to a school with a 30% ESL rate and your property value tanked by 25%.

Oh well. This is what we’ve voted for in our state and county. Suck it up buttercup. You’re probably wealthier than 95% of the country.

DP, but as pointed out before no one campaigned for county or state office saying they were committed to large-scale school boundary revisions in FCPS.

It's not an issue where you can predict someone's views based on party affiliation. The far left would redistrict to balance demographics in the name of equity. The far right would redistrict to minimize future taxes and spending on facilities. And most people who aren't either far left or far right would probably say only change school boundaries when it's absolutely necessary and continue to renovate and expand schools in the ordinary course to meet current needs and anticipate future ones.

No one should be expanding HS around here. They are already too large. Kids don’t even know half their classmates let alone their classmates’ names.

In any case, the SB is too politically driven to give a wit about education. They are all about their next political position and won’t actually do anything on this topic. I wish they’d stop wasting everyone’s time and emotional capital on boundaries.

Some recent expansions to a design capacity of at least 2500 seats include: Herndon (2779), Madison (2503), Oakton (2646), South Lakes (2717), West Potomac (3049), and West Springfield (2505)

Some ongoing and planned expansions include: Falls Church (2500), Justice (2500), and Centreville (3000)

Schools that were built large include: Lake Braddock (3124), Robinson (2752), South County (2500), and Westfield (2823)

So that cat is out of the bag, and they obviously struggle mightily to find acceptable sites for any new high school. Given all that, it's more than a bit late to start claiming no other schools should be expanded, regardless of their circumstances.

BS. There is no need for size equity.

It's not especially important at the ES or MS level, but it's certainly a consideration at the HS level.

Spending to expand some high schools while blowing off others with an even greater need for additional seats would be the epitome of unfair treatment.

You fill until you hit the limit. Then you decide is it better to cozy up or send your kid elsewhere. Move if you have to. Stop with your calls for equity. Stop wasting tax followers on buildings.

^tax dollars

Spending to ensure HS facilities are generally comparable is an investment in kids and communities. There are huge disparities in facilities within FCPS, just as there are among when it comes to student achievement. A School Board that wants a first-class system pays attention to both.

Smaller schools are more desirable. They also make them more exclusive. Why would anyone want a mega school?

Yes, those smaller, neglected schools like Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon are so desirable compared to Woodson, West Springfield, and West Potomac.

Please explain what you mean by neglected and in what ways expansions will improve students overall mental health and academic outcomes.

^ please be specific about these schools.

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Anonymous wrote:None of the situations are necessary. If you don’t like your kids bumping elbows with other kids, move. There are less crowded options with plenty of seats inside and outside the county.

Good luck moving for better schools when you're suddenly underwater on your mortgage because FCPS shifted your home to a school with a 30% ESL rate and your property value tanked by 25%.

Oh well. This is what we’ve voted for in our state and county. Suck it up buttercup. You’re probably wealthier than 95% of the country.

DP, but as pointed out before no one campaigned for county or state office saying they were committed to large-scale school boundary revisions in FCPS.

It's not an issue where you can predict someone's views based on party affiliation. The far left would redistrict to balance demographics in the name of equity. The far right would redistrict to minimize future taxes and spending on facilities. And most people who aren't either far left or far right would probably say only change school boundaries when it's absolutely necessary and continue to renovate and expand schools in the ordinary course to meet current needs and anticipate future ones.

No one should be expanding HS around here. They are already too large. Kids don’t even know half their classmates let alone their classmates’ names.

In any case, the SB is too politically driven to give a wit about education. They are all about their next political position and won’t actually do anything on this topic. I wish they’d stop wasting everyone’s time and emotional capital on boundaries.

Some recent expansions to a design capacity of at least 2500 seats include: Herndon (2779), Madison (2503), Oakton (2646), South Lakes (2717), West Potomac (3049), and West Springfield (2505)

Some ongoing and planned expansions include: Falls Church (2500), Justice (2500), and Centreville (3000)

Schools that were built large include: Lake Braddock (3124), Robinson (2752), South County (2500), and Westfield (2823)

So that cat is out of the bag, and they obviously struggle mightily to find acceptable sites for any new high school. Given all that, it's more than a bit late to start claiming no other schools should be expanded, regardless of their circumstances.

BS. There is no need for size equity.

It's not especially important at the ES or MS level, but it's certainly a consideration at the HS level.

Spending to expand some high schools while blowing off others with an even greater need for additional seats would be the epitome of unfair treatment.

You fill until you hit the limit. Then you decide is it better to cozy up or send your kid elsewhere. Move if you have to. Stop with your calls for equity. Stop wasting tax followers on buildings.

^tax dollars

Spending to ensure HS facilities are generally comparable is an investment in kids and communities. There are huge disparities in facilities within FCPS, just as there are among when it comes to student achievement. A School Board that wants a first-class system pays attention to both.

Smaller schools are more desirable. They also make them more exclusive. Why would anyone want a mega school?

Yes, those smaller, neglected schools like Annandale, Lewis, and Mount Vernon are so desirable compared to Woodson, West Springfield, and West Potomac.

Please explain what you mean by neglected and in what ways expansions will improve students overall mental health and academic outcomes.

NP I interpreted that the PP was referring to the schools that got crappy renovations, like McLean, Annandale, Lewis, and Woodson. Unlike the schools with over the top facilities such as, Fairfax, Herndon, Oakton, West Springfield, Langley.