Anonymous wrote:Not much talk from western areas because it's crowded, everywhere. Once they actually move some of Westfield to Herndon and then Chantilly to Westfield, I'm sure Chantilly parents will be all over the forums....especially the Oak Hill and Franklin Farm parents.
There is plenty of capacity to be used on the east side to help alleviate McLean and FC and Justice. In the western part of the county, Chantilly and centreville are way over capacity and Herndon and SL are right next door in conjunction with moves to Westfields.
I know some may want to “stick it” to GF parents, but the smart move is to immediately shift Chantilly and centreville kids northward and not waste any of the capacity on forestville es or years and millions on the cash expansion.
They said so in the board meeting that there was no money. But it will look silly to leave centreville and Chantilly busting at the seems while they shift some GF kids from one under enrolled school to another in HHS and a few kids to Lewis from WSHS when neither are dealing with what centreville and Chantilly are dealing with regarding capacity.
It won’t look silly to eliminate the split feeder at Spring Hill or to move Forestville kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley there. That wouldn’t preclude moving some Chantilly kids before the Centreville project is completed. Keep in mind FCPS is projecting hundreds of extra seats at Herndon and a decline in Centreville’s enrollment.
Cville/Chantilly need all that space now vs giving GF a shorter bus ride. So you would just leave cville to be the most crowded school in the county and also under construction for the next 4-5 years? Seems silly when you can move what’s required now and save 100s of millions.
You want to short-change Centreville during its renovation and/or require repeated boundary changes in that area so GF kids can continue to travel over 10 miles to Langley?
They’ve put a heavy emphasis on how changes could eliminate attendance islands and split feeders and reduce commuting lengths. If they roll out changes of any significance involving HS boundaries and leave those 10- mile (or more) commutes untouched, they will look like complete hypocrites.
Centreville might still get expansion. But they are very focused on overcrowded schools. Robyn lady mentioned chantilly crowding at her town hall meetings and Chantilly was mentioned multiple times during the last school Board meeting. The school board won’t ignore some of the most overcrowded schools for another 5-6 years if the expansion happens. I have no clue what % of kids will be moved but to think they won’t touch those overcrowded schools is delusional. This will likely happen concurrently with changing some of the Langley zone that’s in Herndon and Reston.
The amount they would save by not busing just some of great falls to Langley is nominal compared to not doing a 100s of millions of dollars expansion when there are available seats nearby. Buses still would be coming for GFES which is just as far or further than forestville kids. And a bus from GF to Herndon middle is just about as far as to cooper. The savings is probably $0
I think it’s a discussion to be held with the Centreville and Chantilly communities. FCPS is projecting Chantilly’s enrollment will go down by 325 kids over the next five years and that Centreville’s will decline by 274 kids. Many might prefer to sit tight until the Centreville renovation is complete. Others might prefer a boundary change sooner. Typically, what people want is assurance that there is a plan, even if it doesn’t kick in tomorrow.
But, again, that’s a decision where the views of the Centreville and Chantilly communities should be heard. It shouldn’t be driven by zealous Great Falls parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in other pyramids.
DP. Do you even hear yourself? The vast majority of posts in this thread have been about parents wanting to redistrict both WSHS and Langley kids to Lewis/Herndon. These people are the very epitome of "zealous" parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in OTHER pyramids. We all know they don't have kids at either WS or Langley, but they sure feel up to the task of rezoning those kids.
It’s the School Board that is driving this process, not DCUM posters. Discussion focuses on the most likely changes because they are the most likely, not necessarily because they are the most desired.
If the rezoning of part of Great Falls were not in the area, Great Falls wouldn’t have summoned Robyn Lady to two separate public meetings before the vote on the Policy 8130 revisions. Nor would it have formed a group to unsuccessfully try and block them.
Now that this has failed, Great Falls is doing what it usually does, which is to push for others to be redistricted while it remains untouched. It won’t go unnoticed, nor should others fall in line like sheep with your agenda.
Anonymous wrote:Not much talk from western areas because it's crowded, everywhere. Once they actually move some of Westfield to Herndon and then Chantilly to Westfield, I'm sure Chantilly parents will be all over the forums....especially the Oak Hill and Franklin Farm parents.
There is plenty of capacity to be used on the east side to help alleviate McLean and FC and Justice. In the western part of the county, Chantilly and centreville are way over capacity and Herndon and SL are right next door in conjunction with moves to Westfields.
I know some may want to “stick it” to GF parents, but the smart move is to immediately shift Chantilly and centreville kids northward and not waste any of the capacity on forestville es or years and millions on the cash expansion.
They said so in the board meeting that there was no money. But it will look silly to leave centreville and Chantilly busting at the seems while they shift some GF kids from one under enrolled school to another in HHS and a few kids to Lewis from WSHS when neither are dealing with what centreville and Chantilly are dealing with regarding capacity.
It won’t look silly to eliminate the split feeder at Spring Hill or to move Forestville kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley there. That wouldn’t preclude moving some Chantilly kids before the Centreville project is completed. Keep in mind FCPS is projecting hundreds of extra seats at Herndon and a decline in Centreville’s enrollment.
Cville/Chantilly need all that space now vs giving GF a shorter bus ride. So you would just leave cville to be the most crowded school in the county and also under construction for the next 4-5 years? Seems silly when you can move what’s required now and save 100s of millions.
You want to short-change Centreville during its renovation and/or require repeated boundary changes in that area so GF kids can continue to travel over 10 miles to Langley?
They’ve put a heavy emphasis on how changes could eliminate attendance islands and split feeders and reduce commuting lengths. If they roll out changes of any significance involving HS boundaries and leave those 10- mile (or more) commutes untouched, they will look like complete hypocrites.
Centreville might still get expansion. But they are very focused on overcrowded schools. Robyn lady mentioned chantilly crowding at her town hall meetings and Chantilly was mentioned multiple times during the last school Board meeting. The school board won’t ignore some of the most overcrowded schools for another 5-6 years if the expansion happens. I have no clue what % of kids will be moved but to think they won’t touch those overcrowded schools is delusional. This will likely happen concurrently with changing some of the Langley zone that’s in Herndon and Reston.
The amount they would save by not busing just some of great falls to Langley is nominal compared to not doing a 100s of millions of dollars expansion when there are available seats nearby. Buses still would be coming for GFES which is just as far or further than forestville kids. And a bus from GF to Herndon middle is just about as far as to cooper. The savings is probably $0
I think it’s a discussion to be held with the Centreville and Chantilly communities. FCPS is projecting Chantilly’s enrollment will go down by 325 kids over the next five years and that Centreville’s will decline by 274 kids. Many might prefer to sit tight until the Centreville renovation is complete. Others might prefer a boundary change sooner. Typically, what people want is assurance that there is a plan, even if it doesn’t kick in tomorrow.
But, again, that’s a decision where the views of the Centreville and Chantilly communities should be heard. It shouldn’t be driven by zealous Great Falls parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in other pyramids.
Yet, when it comes time to consider moving great falls kids, no community views should be heard? We’re not even overcrowded!
The issue isn’t whether you should be heard, but whether only you should be listened to. Westfield isn’t overcrowded, either, but Great Falls regularly suggests moving kids in and out of Westfield in order to fill up Herndon and preclude any move of Langley kids to Herndon. At the end of the day, if they are going to propose any significant changes to HS boundaries, they can’t ignore how much they’ve touted reducing commuting distances as a key consideration.
I see so you mean hear us and ignore us. Gotta love people who advocate for community input and then when they receive it they ignore it.
And you wonder why families will just rent low price apartments to send their kids elsewhere. When people perceive us as the enemy, it’s not hard to see why we would act in our own self interest.
It’s not that you act in your own self-interests; others do that as well. It’s that you are either so arrogant or so naive that you expect veto rights enjoyed by no one else in the county. Time to put on your big boy pants and brace yourself for the possibility that you might not always get your way.
Hhmmm, so back to my original point, everyone else should get a voice, but because you have such disdain for great falls they get none?
This is why shelling out a little cash to rent an apartment in a desired school district is defensible. When your county hates you that much, you gotta look out for number one.
See, anyone with a little spare cash gets their way, no big boy pants required. I know that is disappointing for you to hear.
You appear to operate on the assumption that you are only heard if you always get your way. That’s not how it works.
As for your purported back-up plan, the sheer volume of posts mapping out other potential boundary changes that only affect others, yet do not impact Great Falls at all, suggests that it’s not likely a real option. If you do go down the route of engaging in residency fraud, however, one hopes you recognize that you’re setting a bad example for your kids by sending a message that rules only apply when they work to your personal advantage.
There is this app called Zillow. On it, you can see for yourself how viable the rental plan is.
Re: residency fraud. When you commit to opposing all residence shenanigans across the county and not just the schools with neighbors you think are wealthier than you, then I will engage in a moral dialogue with you. Until then, you are not on as high a ground as you think you are
You can endow yourself here with as much extra pocket change as needed to try and score some rhetorical points. Doesn’t mean you really have the additional money or want to take on putting your kids at risk of getting tossed out of a school for residency fraud. So maybe it’s a real option, but it comes across as more of a bluster than anything else.
As for the residency fraud, you should assume it will get more attention across the board in the future if people advertise their intent to engage in it, whether it involves cheating to get into Langley or other schools. You’d actually want less, not more, attention focused on this if you were really thinking about trying to pull it off.
Sure, Jan. Look, I’m by no means upper class, but $24k-$30k to send my kids to a more desirable public school each year of middle and high school is really not a difficult feat for us. It’s basically what you pay for childcare in the area nowadays. You hate us because we’re supposedly rich, but now you think we can’t afford this path? Be consistent please.
As I’ve said before, the SB has two options, more robust residency checks or less. If more, they catch current Lewis and Herndon families skirting the rules, and the misbalance is likely solved. I fully support that, but I don’t think they intend to go after these families. Thus the rental unit path appears very safe, and even in the extreme where Fairfax county has hundreds of residency officers conducting residency checks all around the county (Not sure where we get the funds for that), there are so many bigger fish who claim to be homeless, or claim old addresses, that they would never come close to catching someone who is under a legitimate lease that is not being subleased.
I suspect that is why this bothers you so much and why you keep claiming it is residency fraud, which by the way, renting a separate housing unit is not per se fraud. Per se fraud is forging documents to say that you live somewhere you don’t or claiming to be homeless to join a football team. You’re frustrated because this is a viable path with limited downside.
Anonymous wrote:Not much talk from western areas because it's crowded, everywhere. Once they actually move some of Westfield to Herndon and then Chantilly to Westfield, I'm sure Chantilly parents will be all over the forums....especially the Oak Hill and Franklin Farm parents.
There is plenty of capacity to be used on the east side to help alleviate McLean and FC and Justice. In the western part of the county, Chantilly and centreville are way over capacity and Herndon and SL are right next door in conjunction with moves to Westfields.
I know some may want to “stick it” to GF parents, but the smart move is to immediately shift Chantilly and centreville kids northward and not waste any of the capacity on forestville es or years and millions on the cash expansion.
They said so in the board meeting that there was no money. But it will look silly to leave centreville and Chantilly busting at the seems while they shift some GF kids from one under enrolled school to another in HHS and a few kids to Lewis from WSHS when neither are dealing with what centreville and Chantilly are dealing with regarding capacity.
It won’t look silly to eliminate the split feeder at Spring Hill or to move Forestville kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley there. That wouldn’t preclude moving some Chantilly kids before the Centreville project is completed. Keep in mind FCPS is projecting hundreds of extra seats at Herndon and a decline in Centreville’s enrollment.
Cville/Chantilly need all that space now vs giving GF a shorter bus ride. So you would just leave cville to be the most crowded school in the county and also under construction for the next 4-5 years? Seems silly when you can move what’s required now and save 100s of millions.
You want to short-change Centreville during its renovation and/or require repeated boundary changes in that area so GF kids can continue to travel over 10 miles to Langley?
They’ve put a heavy emphasis on how changes could eliminate attendance islands and split feeders and reduce commuting lengths. If they roll out changes of any significance involving HS boundaries and leave those 10- mile (or more) commutes untouched, they will look like complete hypocrites.
Centreville might still get expansion. But they are very focused on overcrowded schools. Robyn lady mentioned chantilly crowding at her town hall meetings and Chantilly was mentioned multiple times during the last school Board meeting. The school board won’t ignore some of the most overcrowded schools for another 5-6 years if the expansion happens. I have no clue what % of kids will be moved but to think they won’t touch those overcrowded schools is delusional. This will likely happen concurrently with changing some of the Langley zone that’s in Herndon and Reston.
The amount they would save by not busing just some of great falls to Langley is nominal compared to not doing a 100s of millions of dollars expansion when there are available seats nearby. Buses still would be coming for GFES which is just as far or further than forestville kids. And a bus from GF to Herndon middle is just about as far as to cooper. The savings is probably $0
I think it’s a discussion to be held with the Centreville and Chantilly communities. FCPS is projecting Chantilly’s enrollment will go down by 325 kids over the next five years and that Centreville’s will decline by 274 kids. Many might prefer to sit tight until the Centreville renovation is complete. Others might prefer a boundary change sooner. Typically, what people want is assurance that there is a plan, even if it doesn’t kick in tomorrow.
But, again, that’s a decision where the views of the Centreville and Chantilly communities should be heard. It shouldn’t be driven by zealous Great Falls parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in other pyramids.
DP. Do you even hear yourself? The vast majority of posts in this thread have been about parents wanting to redistrict both WSHS and Langley kids to Lewis/Herndon. These people are the very epitome of "zealous" parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in OTHER pyramids. We all know they don't have kids at either WS or Langley, but they sure feel up to the task of rezoning those kids.
It’s the School Board that is driving this process, not DCUM posters. Discussion focuses on the most likely changes because they are the most likely, not necessarily because they are the most desired.
If the rezoning of part of Great Falls were not in the area, Great Falls wouldn’t have summoned Robyn Lady to two separate public meetings before the vote on the Policy 8130 revisions. Nor would it have formed a group to unsuccessfully try and block them.
Now that this has failed, Great Falls is doing what it usually does, which is to push for others to be redistricted while it remains untouched. It won’t go unnoticed, nor should others fall in line like sheep with your agenda.
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Love thy, neighbor. But not THOSE neighbors, isn’t really how it works. Eww.
Anonymous wrote:Not much talk from western areas because it's crowded, everywhere. Once they actually move some of Westfield to Herndon and then Chantilly to Westfield, I'm sure Chantilly parents will be all over the forums....especially the Oak Hill and Franklin Farm parents.
There is plenty of capacity to be used on the east side to help alleviate McLean and FC and Justice. In the western part of the county, Chantilly and centreville are way over capacity and Herndon and SL are right next door in conjunction with moves to Westfields.
I know some may want to “stick it” to GF parents, but the smart move is to immediately shift Chantilly and centreville kids northward and not waste any of the capacity on forestville es or years and millions on the cash expansion.
They said so in the board meeting that there was no money. But it will look silly to leave centreville and Chantilly busting at the seems while they shift some GF kids from one under enrolled school to another in HHS and a few kids to Lewis from WSHS when neither are dealing with what centreville and Chantilly are dealing with regarding capacity.
It won’t look silly to eliminate the split feeder at Spring Hill or to move Forestville kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley there. That wouldn’t preclude moving some Chantilly kids before the Centreville project is completed. Keep in mind FCPS is projecting hundreds of extra seats at Herndon and a decline in Centreville’s enrollment.
Cville/Chantilly need all that space now vs giving GF a shorter bus ride. So you would just leave cville to be the most crowded school in the county and also under construction for the next 4-5 years? Seems silly when you can move what’s required now and save 100s of millions.
You want to short-change Centreville during its renovation and/or require repeated boundary changes in that area so GF kids can continue to travel over 10 miles to Langley?
They’ve put a heavy emphasis on how changes could eliminate attendance islands and split feeders and reduce commuting lengths. If they roll out changes of any significance involving HS boundaries and leave those 10- mile (or more) commutes untouched, they will look like complete hypocrites.
Centreville might still get expansion. But they are very focused on overcrowded schools. Robyn lady mentioned chantilly crowding at her town hall meetings and Chantilly was mentioned multiple times during the last school Board meeting. The school board won’t ignore some of the most overcrowded schools for another 5-6 years if the expansion happens. I have no clue what % of kids will be moved but to think they won’t touch those overcrowded schools is delusional. This will likely happen concurrently with changing some of the Langley zone that’s in Herndon and Reston.
The amount they would save by not busing just some of great falls to Langley is nominal compared to not doing a 100s of millions of dollars expansion when there are available seats nearby. Buses still would be coming for GFES which is just as far or further than forestville kids. And a bus from GF to Herndon middle is just about as far as to cooper. The savings is probably $0
I think it’s a discussion to be held with the Centreville and Chantilly communities. FCPS is projecting Chantilly’s enrollment will go down by 325 kids over the next five years and that Centreville’s will decline by 274 kids. Many might prefer to sit tight until the Centreville renovation is complete. Others might prefer a boundary change sooner. Typically, what people want is assurance that there is a plan, even if it doesn’t kick in tomorrow.
But, again, that’s a decision where the views of the Centreville and Chantilly communities should be heard. It shouldn’t be driven by zealous Great Falls parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in other pyramids.
Yet, when it comes time to consider moving great falls kids, no community views should be heard? We’re not even overcrowded!
Exactly. The total projection of the PP is astounding.
DP
It’s not unusual for a school that isn’t currently overcrowded to have kids moved both in and out in connection with a boundary change to address overcrowding at another school. You are advocating for more of the “piecemeal” approach the SB has said should be avoided.
Anonymous wrote:Not much talk from western areas because it's crowded, everywhere. Once they actually move some of Westfield to Herndon and then Chantilly to Westfield, I'm sure Chantilly parents will be all over the forums....especially the Oak Hill and Franklin Farm parents.
There is plenty of capacity to be used on the east side to help alleviate McLean and FC and Justice. In the western part of the county, Chantilly and centreville are way over capacity and Herndon and SL are right next door in conjunction with moves to Westfields.
I know some may want to “stick it” to GF parents, but the smart move is to immediately shift Chantilly and centreville kids northward and not waste any of the capacity on forestville es or years and millions on the cash expansion.
They said so in the board meeting that there was no money. But it will look silly to leave centreville and Chantilly busting at the seems while they shift some GF kids from one under enrolled school to another in HHS and a few kids to Lewis from WSHS when neither are dealing with what centreville and Chantilly are dealing with regarding capacity.
It won’t look silly to eliminate the split feeder at Spring Hill or to move Forestville kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley there. That wouldn’t preclude moving some Chantilly kids before the Centreville project is completed. Keep in mind FCPS is projecting hundreds of extra seats at Herndon and a decline in Centreville’s enrollment.
Cville/Chantilly need all that space now vs giving GF a shorter bus ride. So you would just leave cville to be the most crowded school in the county and also under construction for the next 4-5 years? Seems silly when you can move what’s required now and save 100s of millions.
You want to short-change Centreville during its renovation and/or require repeated boundary changes in that area so GF kids can continue to travel over 10 miles to Langley?
They’ve put a heavy emphasis on how changes could eliminate attendance islands and split feeders and reduce commuting lengths. If they roll out changes of any significance involving HS boundaries and leave those 10- mile (or more) commutes untouched, they will look like complete hypocrites.
Centreville might still get expansion. But they are very focused on overcrowded schools. Robyn lady mentioned chantilly crowding at her town hall meetings and Chantilly was mentioned multiple times during the last school Board meeting. The school board won’t ignore some of the most overcrowded schools for another 5-6 years if the expansion happens. I have no clue what % of kids will be moved but to think they won’t touch those overcrowded schools is delusional. This will likely happen concurrently with changing some of the Langley zone that’s in Herndon and Reston.
The amount they would save by not busing just some of great falls to Langley is nominal compared to not doing a 100s of millions of dollars expansion when there are available seats nearby. Buses still would be coming for GFES which is just as far or further than forestville kids. And a bus from GF to Herndon middle is just about as far as to cooper. The savings is probably $0
I think it’s a discussion to be held with the Centreville and Chantilly communities. FCPS is projecting Chantilly’s enrollment will go down by 325 kids over the next five years and that Centreville’s will decline by 274 kids. Many might prefer to sit tight until the Centreville renovation is complete. Others might prefer a boundary change sooner. Typically, what people want is assurance that there is a plan, even if it doesn’t kick in tomorrow.
But, again, that’s a decision where the views of the Centreville and Chantilly communities should be heard. It shouldn’t be driven by zealous Great Falls parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in other pyramids.
Yet, when it comes time to consider moving great falls kids, no community views should be heard? We’re not even overcrowded!
The issue isn’t whether you should be heard, but whether only you should be listened to. Westfield isn’t overcrowded, either, but Great Falls regularly suggests moving kids in and out of Westfield in order to fill up Herndon and preclude any move of Langley kids to Herndon. At the end of the day, if they are going to propose any significant changes to HS boundaries, they can’t ignore how much they’ve touted reducing commuting distances as a key consideration.
DP. I've only heard that from one person, right here on this anonymous forum. Meanwhile, people like you have been smugly insisting that Forestville kids be rezoned to Herndon - for your OWN purposes. Just admit it. It's fine for YOU to move around other people's kids, but no one is allowed to try that garbage with you, right?
Take it up with the School Board, honey. It seems that YOU are the one continuing to stick her head up her rear when it comes to acknowledging that the SB has said reducing commuting distances will be a priority. If you’re aware of any kids getting bussed longer distances than Forestville and Great Falls kids are getting bussed to Langley, speak up. Otherwise, you might to put a lid on it.
Anonymous wrote:Not much talk from western areas because it's crowded, everywhere. Once they actually move some of Westfield to Herndon and then Chantilly to Westfield, I'm sure Chantilly parents will be all over the forums....especially the Oak Hill and Franklin Farm parents.
There is plenty of capacity to be used on the east side to help alleviate McLean and FC and Justice. In the western part of the county, Chantilly and centreville are way over capacity and Herndon and SL are right next door in conjunction with moves to Westfields.
I know some may want to “stick it” to GF parents, but the smart move is to immediately shift Chantilly and centreville kids northward and not waste any of the capacity on forestville es or years and millions on the cash expansion.
They said so in the board meeting that there was no money. But it will look silly to leave centreville and Chantilly busting at the seems while they shift some GF kids from one under enrolled school to another in HHS and a few kids to Lewis from WSHS when neither are dealing with what centreville and Chantilly are dealing with regarding capacity.
It won’t look silly to eliminate the split feeder at Spring Hill or to move Forestville kids who live much closer to Herndon than to Langley there. That wouldn’t preclude moving some Chantilly kids before the Centreville project is completed. Keep in mind FCPS is projecting hundreds of extra seats at Herndon and a decline in Centreville’s enrollment.
Cville/Chantilly need all that space now vs giving GF a shorter bus ride. So you would just leave cville to be the most crowded school in the county and also under construction for the next 4-5 years? Seems silly when you can move what’s required now and save 100s of millions.
You want to short-change Centreville during its renovation and/or require repeated boundary changes in that area so GF kids can continue to travel over 10 miles to Langley?
They’ve put a heavy emphasis on how changes could eliminate attendance islands and split feeders and reduce commuting lengths. If they roll out changes of any significance involving HS boundaries and leave those 10- mile (or more) commutes untouched, they will look like complete hypocrites.
Centreville might still get expansion. But they are very focused on overcrowded schools. Robyn lady mentioned chantilly crowding at her town hall meetings and Chantilly was mentioned multiple times during the last school Board meeting. The school board won’t ignore some of the most overcrowded schools for another 5-6 years if the expansion happens. I have no clue what % of kids will be moved but to think they won’t touch those overcrowded schools is delusional. This will likely happen concurrently with changing some of the Langley zone that’s in Herndon and Reston.
The amount they would save by not busing just some of great falls to Langley is nominal compared to not doing a 100s of millions of dollars expansion when there are available seats nearby. Buses still would be coming for GFES which is just as far or further than forestville kids. And a bus from GF to Herndon middle is just about as far as to cooper. The savings is probably $0
I think it’s a discussion to be held with the Centreville and Chantilly communities. FCPS is projecting Chantilly’s enrollment will go down by 325 kids over the next five years and that Centreville’s will decline by 274 kids. Many might prefer to sit tight until the Centreville renovation is complete. Others might prefer a boundary change sooner. Typically, what people want is assurance that there is a plan, even if it doesn’t kick in tomorrow.
But, again, that’s a decision where the views of the Centreville and Chantilly communities should be heard. It shouldn’t be driven by zealous Great Falls parents looking to come up with changes that would only affect kids in other pyramids.
Yet, when it comes time to consider moving great falls kids, no community views should be heard? We’re not even overcrowded!
The issue isn’t whether you should be heard, but whether only you should be listened to. Westfield isn’t overcrowded, either, but Great Falls regularly suggests moving kids in and out of Westfield in order to fill up Herndon and preclude any move of Langley kids to Herndon. At the end of the day, if they are going to propose any significant changes to HS boundaries, they can’t ignore how much they’ve touted reducing commuting distances as a key consideration.
I see so you mean hear us and ignore us. Gotta love people who advocate for community input and then when they receive it they ignore it.
And you wonder why families will just rent low price apartments to send their kids elsewhere. When people perceive us as the enemy, it’s not hard to see why we would act in our own self interest.
It’s not that you act in your own self-interests; others do that as well. It’s that you are either so arrogant or so naive that you expect veto rights enjoyed by no one else in the county. Time to put on your big boy pants and brace yourself for the possibility that you might not always get your way.
Hhmmm, so back to my original point, everyone else should get a voice, but because you have such disdain for great falls they get none?
This is why shelling out a little cash to rent an apartment in a desired school district is defensible. When your county hates you that much, you gotta look out for number one.
See, anyone with a little spare cash gets their way, no big boy pants required. I know that is disappointing for you to hear.
You appear to operate on the assumption that you are only heard if you always get your way. That’s not how it works.
As for your purported back-up plan, the sheer volume of posts mapping out other potential boundary changes that only affect others, yet do not impact Great Falls at all, suggests that it’s not likely a real option. If you do go down the route of engaging in residency fraud, however, one hopes you recognize that you’re setting a bad example for your kids by sending a message that rules only apply when they work to your personal advantage.
There is this app called Zillow. On it, you can see for yourself how viable the rental plan is.
Re: residency fraud. When you commit to opposing all residence shenanigans across the county and not just the schools with neighbors you think are wealthier than you, then I will engage in a moral dialogue with you. Until then, you are not on as high a ground as you think you are
You can endow yourself here with as much extra pocket change as needed to try and score some rhetorical points. Doesn’t mean you really have the additional money or want to take on putting your kids at risk of getting tossed out of a school for residency fraud. So maybe it’s a real option, but it comes across as more of a bluster than anything else.
As for the residency fraud, you should assume it will get more attention across the board in the future if people advertise their intent to engage in it, whether it involves cheating to get into Langley or other schools. You’d actually want less, not more, attention focused on this if you were really thinking about trying to pull it off.
Sure, Jan. Look, I’m by no means upper class, but $24k-$30k to send my kids to a more desirable public school each year of middle and high school is really not a difficult feat for us. It’s basically what you pay for childcare in the area nowadays. You hate us because we’re supposedly rich, but now you think we can’t afford this path? Be consistent please.
As I’ve said before, the SB has two options, more robust residency checks or less. If more, they catch current Lewis and Herndon families skirting the rules, and the misbalance is likely solved. I fully support that, but I don’t think they intend to go after these families. Thus the rental unit path appears very safe, and even in the extreme where Fairfax county has hundreds of residency officers conducting residency checks all around the county (Not sure where we get the funds for that), there are so many bigger fish who claim to be homeless, or claim old addresses, that they would never come close to catching someone who is under a legitimate lease that is not being subleased.
I suspect that is why this bothers you so much and why you keep claiming it is residency fraud, which by the way, renting a separate housing unit is not per se fraud. Per se fraud is forging documents to say that you live somewhere you don’t or claiming to be homeless to join a football team. You’re frustrated because this is a viable path with limited downside.
You’ve convinced yourself people hate you because you’re rich, which isn’t the case. People have a negative impression of Langley because parents there frequently behave like there is one set of rules for Langley and another for everyone else.
You imply fraud only relates to written misrepresentations. The residency requirement is that students attend the school where they reside, not where their parents have purchased a mailing address. If you actually plan to move into a Tysons apartment to send your kids to a school you deem acceptable, that’s perfectly appropriate. But if your kid isn’t living there, good luck when your kid gets the boot.
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My understanding is that the boundary policy that has passed only creates guidelines for future boundary changes (along with a schedule for boundary reviews). No actual boundary changes have yet to be proposed. Therefore, the apparent fear of many posters in this thread that they will wake up and find their $2 million home redistricted for a school with 99% FARMS seems premature. Rather than continue the bickering that characterizes much of this thread, I am going to lock it. If or when an actual boundary change is proposed, the panic can ensure in a new thread.
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