Tween BMI and diet

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Anonymous wrote:I’d stick with healthy cooking and eating and only you can judge if she’s overweight or not. BMI is a waste of space as a measurement. The majority of pro athletes have high/obese BMI from muscles and body fat percentage is a much more important factor. It’s never too early to learn about a good healthy diet, but first you need to very honestly assess whether weight is an issue. I have a kid with a 97% BMI as well. He DOES need to lose weight. There’s muscle and tons of sports, but he needs to eat healthier. My other kid is maybe 70th percentile in BMI. She’s a fully grown teen, 5’3” 135 and fits in a small/size 4 easily. She plays her sport 6-7 days a week, has clear muscle definition in her arms, legs and abs and has not got a visible ounce of fat anywhere. She is “overweight” per her BMI, but it would be crazy to think it’s an issue.

Given the disparity (like with your family) i just do my best to keep junk to a minimum, keep the bigger one active and hope for a growth spurt before i worry too much.

What? No way. Only NFL players are particularly overweight and they are not the "majority" of professional athletes.
And it's particularly important to be lean for endurance sports. OP mentioned that the daughter plays basketball. Literally only 2 NBA players have a high BMI. One is Zion Williamson, who was the #1 pick a few years back, but is chronically injured. BMI > 25 increases likelihood of meniscus tears.

Don’t bring facts to this debate. Next you’ll be telling us that it’s idiotic to compare the musculature of a 12 year old girl to professional athletes in the first place.

And definitely don’t bring up this insane idea that if one is overweight due to excessive muscle rather than excessive fat that it somehow magically isn’t an additional strain on one’s bones, joints, and circulatory system. I mean, surely some muscle bound man like Arnold Schwarzennegger wouldn’t have taxed his body to the point of needing a quadruple bypass, right?

That's not how coronary artery disease works.

Please, do tell how excess weight is NOT a universally accepted risk factor for heart disease. I’m sure you know more than places like Johns Hopkins and the CDC.

[Anonymous]

I found my girls put on weight approaching their first period but then leveled off and grew taller for about a year so it was proportional. This may happen to your daughter too, but I wouldn't ignore the doctor. Obviously he/she knows your daughter better than random people on an anonymous board. If they are concerned, I would try having fewer high calorie/low nutrient snacks around and more healthy options. I think you can make some small steps to improve her overall diet. You want changes to be something she can maintain, not a strict diet where she regains all her lost weight in a year.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d stick with healthy cooking and eating and only you can judge if she’s overweight or not. BMI is a waste of space as a measurement. The majority of pro athletes have high/obese BMI from muscles and body fat percentage is a much more important factor. It’s never too early to learn about a good healthy diet, but first you need to very honestly assess whether weight is an issue. I have a kid with a 97% BMI as well. He DOES need to lose weight. There’s muscle and tons of sports, but he needs to eat healthier. My other kid is maybe 70th percentile in BMI. She’s a fully grown teen, 5’3” 135 and fits in a small/size 4 easily. She plays her sport 6-7 days a week, has clear muscle definition in her arms, legs and abs and has not got a visible ounce of fat anywhere. She is “overweight” per her BMI, but it would be crazy to think it’s an issue.

Given the disparity (like with your family) i just do my best to keep junk to a minimum, keep the bigger one active and hope for a growth spurt before i worry too much.

What? No way. Only NFL players are particularly overweight and they are not the "majority" of professional athletes.
And it's particularly important to be lean for endurance sports. OP mentioned that the daughter plays basketball. Literally only 2 NBA players have a high BMI. One is Zion Williamson, who was the #1 pick a few years back, but is chronically injured. BMI > 25 increases likelihood of meniscus tears.

Don’t bring facts to this debate. Next you’ll be telling us that it’s idiotic to compare the musculature of a 12 year old girl to professional athletes in the first place.

And definitely don’t bring up this insane idea that if one is overweight due to excessive muscle rather than excessive fat that it somehow magically isn’t an additional strain on one’s bones, joints, and circulatory system. I mean, surely some muscle bound man like Arnold Schwarzennegger wouldn’t have taxed his body to the point of needing a quadruple bypass, right?

That's not how coronary artery disease works.

Please, do tell how excess weight is NOT a universally accepted risk factor for heart disease. I’m sure you know more than places like Johns Hopkins and the CDC.

You don't understand nuance do you? Or that body composition matters more than BMI.

[Anonymous]

It sounds like the entire household could benefit from healthier nutrition, but that takes effort. Easier to just brush off what your doctor said and not help your daughter.

Teach your children about healthy eating. You don’t have to restrict her to “carrot sticks”. There are so many good healthy meals you can make for a family that they will enjoy eating.

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Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the entire household could benefit from healthier nutrition, but that takes effort. Easier to just brush off what your doctor said and not help your daughter.

Teach your children about healthy eating. You don’t have to restrict her to “carrot sticks”. There are so many good healthy meals you can make for a family that they will enjoy eating.

Yet another lecture from an almond mom

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the entire household could benefit from healthier nutrition, but that takes effort. Easier to just brush off what your doctor said and not help your daughter.

Teach your children about healthy eating. You don’t have to restrict her to “carrot sticks”. There are so many good healthy meals you can make for a family that they will enjoy eating.

Yet another lecture from an almond mom

There is something so off when the recommendation not to restrict but to focus on good tasty healthy good is met with accusations of being an almond mom. Consider therapy for your disordered relationship with food. There is a happy medium between restricting to carrot sticks and celery and shoveling your face full of junk food 24/7.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have a 12 year old girl with a BMI in the 97th percentile, her pediatrician wants me to put her on a more restrictive diet and help her lose 20 pounds. I am hesitant because I worry it will cause body image issues, I also think she is otherwise very healthy. She is a 3 sport athlete with big muscles, she can lift and squat more than I can and has a fast one mile run time. She also just got her period for the first time and it seems like her body is already going through enough changes. What would you do here?

You know your daughter and you know, to some extent, her diet (kids out of the house and potentially local travel for sports means you don’t know it all).

She could just have an athletic or “big” body; we all know people like that. The pediatrician could be sexist or fat phobic. But I think you know your daughter. Does she love junky food in pretty big amounts and frequent and do you (or does she) excuse it because she “burns it off”?

If her doctor is blowing the whistle here, it’s time to take stock. That the doctor encouraged restriction suggests your daughter is eating too much garbage food. I’m saying this as an adult who definitely eats too much garbage. Work on the habits and choices now when they’re much more malleable.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It sounds like the entire household could benefit from healthier nutrition, but that takes effort. Easier to just brush off what your doctor said and not help your daughter.

Teach your children about healthy eating. You don’t have to restrict her to “carrot sticks”. There are so many good healthy meals you can make for a family that they will enjoy eating.

Yet another lecture from an almond mom

There is something so off when the recommendation not to restrict but to focus on good tasty healthy good is met with accusations of being an almond mom. Consider therapy for your disordered relationship with food. There is a happy medium between restricting to carrot sticks and celery and shoveling your face full of junk food 24/7.

This is pretty much expected from a crowd that compares professional athletes to a 12 year old girl “athlete” (a designation that happens by purely showing interest). Next we will read about how this is a consequence of the food system and not something as simple as eating too much of the wrong things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d stick with healthy cooking and eating and only you can judge if she’s overweight or not. BMI is a waste of space as a measurement. The majority of pro athletes have high/obese BMI from muscles and body fat percentage is a much more important factor. It’s never too early to learn about a good healthy diet, but first you need to very honestly assess whether weight is an issue. I have a kid with a 97% BMI as well. He DOES need to lose weight. There’s muscle and tons of sports, but he needs to eat healthier. My other kid is maybe 70th percentile in BMI. She’s a fully grown teen, 5’3” 135 and fits in a small/size 4 easily. She plays her sport 6-7 days a week, has clear muscle definition in her arms, legs and abs and has not got a visible ounce of fat anywhere. She is “overweight” per her BMI, but it would be crazy to think it’s an issue.

Given the disparity (like with your family) i just do my best to keep junk to a minimum, keep the bigger one active and hope for a growth spurt before i worry too much.

What? No way. Only NFL players are particularly overweight and they are not the "majority" of professional athletes.
And it's particularly important to be lean for endurance sports. OP mentioned that the daughter plays basketball. Literally only 2 NBA players have a high BMI. One is Zion Williamson, who was the #1 pick a few years back, but is chronically injured. BMI > 25 increases likelihood of meniscus tears.

Don’t bring facts to this debate. Next you’ll be telling us that it’s idiotic to compare the musculature of a 12 year old girl to professional athletes in the first place.

And definitely don’t bring up this insane idea that if one is overweight due to excessive muscle rather than excessive fat that it somehow magically isn’t an additional strain on one’s bones, joints, and circulatory system. I mean, surely some muscle bound man like Arnold Schwarzennegger wouldn’t have taxed his body to the point of needing a quadruple bypass, right?

That's not how coronary artery disease works.

Please, do tell how excess weight is NOT a universally accepted risk factor for heart disease. I’m sure you know more than places like Johns Hopkins and the CDC.

You don't understand nuance do you? Or that body composition matters more than BMI.

You don’t understand that physics is physics. More load —> more stress.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d stick with healthy cooking and eating and only you can judge if she’s overweight or not. BMI is a waste of space as a measurement. The majority of pro athletes have high/obese BMI from muscles and body fat percentage is a much more important factor. It’s never too early to learn about a good healthy diet, but first you need to very honestly assess whether weight is an issue. I have a kid with a 97% BMI as well. He DOES need to lose weight. There’s muscle and tons of sports, but he needs to eat healthier. My other kid is maybe 70th percentile in BMI. She’s a fully grown teen, 5’3” 135 and fits in a small/size 4 easily. She plays her sport 6-7 days a week, has clear muscle definition in her arms, legs and abs and has not got a visible ounce of fat anywhere. She is “overweight” per her BMI, but it would be crazy to think it’s an issue.

Given the disparity (like with your family) i just do my best to keep junk to a minimum, keep the bigger one active and hope for a growth spurt before i worry too much.

What? No way. Only NFL players are particularly overweight and they are not the "majority" of professional athletes.
And it's particularly important to be lean for endurance sports. OP mentioned that the daughter plays basketball. Literally only 2 NBA players have a high BMI. One is Zion Williamson, who was the #1 pick a few years back, but is chronically injured. BMI > 25 increases likelihood of meniscus tears.

Don’t bring facts to this debate. Next you’ll be telling us that it’s idiotic to compare the musculature of a 12 year old girl to professional athletes in the first place.

And definitely don’t bring up this insane idea that if one is overweight due to excessive muscle rather than excessive fat that it somehow magically isn’t an additional strain on one’s bones, joints, and circulatory system. I mean, surely some muscle bound man like Arnold Schwarzennegger wouldn’t have taxed his body to the point of needing a quadruple bypass, right?

That's not how coronary artery disease works.

Please, do tell how excess weight is NOT a universally accepted risk factor for heart disease. I’m sure you know more than places like Johns Hopkins and the CDC.

You don't understand nuance do you? Or that body composition matters more than BMI.

You don’t understand that physics is physics. More load —> more stress.

I'm guessing you've never taken pathophysiology if that's your best retort.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’d stick with healthy cooking and eating and only you can judge if she’s overweight or not. BMI is a waste of space as a measurement. The majority of pro athletes have high/obese BMI from muscles and body fat percentage is a much more important factor. It’s never too early to learn about a good healthy diet, but first you need to very honestly assess whether weight is an issue. I have a kid with a 97% BMI as well. He DOES need to lose weight. There’s muscle and tons of sports, but he needs to eat healthier. My other kid is maybe 70th percentile in BMI. She’s a fully grown teen, 5’3” 135 and fits in a small/size 4 easily. She plays her sport 6-7 days a week, has clear muscle definition in her arms, legs and abs and has not got a visible ounce of fat anywhere. She is “overweight” per her BMI, but it would be crazy to think it’s an issue.

Given the disparity (like with your family) i just do my best to keep junk to a minimum, keep the bigger one active and hope for a growth spurt before i worry too much.

What? No way. Only NFL players are particularly overweight and they are not the "majority" of professional athletes.
And it's particularly important to be lean for endurance sports. OP mentioned that the daughter plays basketball. Literally only 2 NBA players have a high BMI. One is Zion Williamson, who was the #1 pick a few years back, but is chronically injured. BMI > 25 increases likelihood of meniscus tears.

Don’t bring facts to this debate. Next you’ll be telling us that it’s idiotic to compare the musculature of a 12 year old girl to professional athletes in the first place.

And definitely don’t bring up this insane idea that if one is overweight due to excessive muscle rather than excessive fat that it somehow magically isn’t an additional strain on one’s bones, joints, and circulatory system. I mean, surely some muscle bound man like Arnold Schwarzennegger wouldn’t have taxed his body to the point of needing a quadruple bypass, right?

That's not how coronary artery disease works.

Please, do tell how excess weight is NOT a universally accepted risk factor for heart disease. I’m sure you know more than places like Johns Hopkins and the CDC.

You don't understand nuance do you? Or that body composition matters more than BMI.

You don’t understand that physics is physics. More load —> more stress.

I thought we were discussing the heart not joints?

[Anonymous]

OP celebrate your daughter’s love of sports and keep modeling an active lifestyle.

Enjoy family meals together and flood your pantry and fridge with healthy meal, snack and drink options.

Be a place where your daughter can always turn for support and acceptance just as she is.

She is at a critical age to start learning self care - emotional and physical. Listening to her bod - figuring out the balance between rest exercise nutrition etc. Yes, she needs her parents to guide her with these things right now, but if you lay the groundwork she can do this on her own when she’s 16,17 18.