Tween BMI and diet

[Anonymous]

It doesn’t matter because if she’s already overweight, there’s almost no chance that dieting will be effective for her long term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter because if she’s already overweight, there’s almost no chance that dieting will be effective for her long term.

That’s why she needs a lifestyle change NOW. So she won’t have to diet later.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter because if she’s already overweight, there’s almost no chance that dieting will be effective for her long term.

Agree with this. But also, OP needs to wake up. No child (or adult) should eat a dozen cookies at a time.

The DD is not going to lose 20 lbs and become normal weight. But maybe the entire family can become a little bit better at healthy eating. A sports nutritionist is a good idea for the whole family.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Agreed, the poster you responded to is an idiot.

Your example is germane. The likelihood of OPs daughter being at 20% body fat at 5'4" 160 pounds is very low. Its much more like to be higher than that.

Lots of adult "athletes" have poor diets. Happens all the time. You even have people with excellent body composition that manage to push themselves into pre-diabetes by eating a bunch of sugar laden junk "because they can."

Resolution for OP is not to justify or even suggest its normal to eat a dozen cookies. That's not a particularly good incentive system, especially if somebody gets injured and the activity level goes down. If the eating is more real food based, its much easier to titrate the volume if the activity level goes down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Don’t be defensive because I called you out on your scrawny son. He is almost underweight according to his bmi. “All muscle” he is not. Maybe bones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Don’t be defensive because I called you out on your scrawny son. He is almost underweight according to his bmi. “All muscle” he is not. Maybe bones.

Awful person alert.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Don’t be defensive because I called you out on your scrawny son. He is almost underweight according to his bmi. “All muscle” he is not. Maybe bones.

His BMI is over 50th percentile. Perfectly healthy weight. It’s not shocking that you can’t calculate BMI either. Agree with DP upthread, you are most definitely an idiot.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It doesn’t matter because if she’s already overweight, there’s almost no chance that dieting will be effective for her long term.

Agree with this. But also, OP needs to wake up. No child (or adult) should eat a dozen cookies at a time.

The DD is not going to lose 20 lbs and become normal weight. But maybe the entire family can become a little bit better at healthy eating. A sports nutritionist is a good idea for the whole family.

You can’t win. You don’t buy enough junk food or limit how much they can eat and they will blame you as adults for being restrictive and controlling with their food and causing their binge eating. (See the Oreo thread from a while ago in teen forum)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

Neither of them should be eating a dozen cookies, OP. Two cookies, sure, but a dozen cookies is too many for even the fittest of athletes. Surely you know this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Don’t be defensive because I called you out on your scrawny son. He is almost underweight according to his bmi. “All muscle” he is not. Maybe bones.

This sounds like someone whose son filled out at 12 and they can't comprehend that other kids are different. Obtuse and narrow-minded...and not very bright.

[Anonymous]

OP you see her in relation to other girls her age. You know this isn't good for her and will actually be terribly detrimental for her mind and body to be this large at 12. Stop making excuses about her being athletic. Many girls are just as athletoc at 12. The problem will come in a few years when she isn't as active. When she has more homework or doesn't make the team or decides theater is for her. Right now her sports are keeping her weight from ballooning. You are one injury or interest shift away from a major problem.

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Don’t be defensive because I called you out on your scrawny son. He is almost underweight according to his bmi. “All muscle” he is not. Maybe bones.

His BMI is over 50th percentile. Perfectly healthy weight. It’s not shocking that you can’t calculate BMI either. Agree with DP upthread, you are most definitely an idiot.

This does not mean your son has a muscular physique. Perhaps PP should have phrased it more nicely but 150 at that height is a regular skinny HS kid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This is OP, thanks for many of the helpful and some not helpful comments. To answer some questions she’s just over 5’4” and 162 lbs so she does look heavy but is also visibly muscular. She just played two hours of basketball this morning and is in great running cardio shape, her coach rarely takes her out because she is so fast, skilled, and doesn’t get tired. She has 2 siblings who are athletes and our family plan has always been to do a ton of athletics and have lots of foods available at home that they can choose from. Her siblings are not overweight and can metabolize a lot of calories easily so I’m hesitant to say her brother can eat a dozen cookies while she get carrot sticks.

5ft 4 in and 162 lbs on a 12 year old is not muscular. Knock it off.

Right? These people are crazy. My 6’2” tall extremely athletic 13 year old BOY is all muscle and doesn’t have an ounce of fat on him… and he weighs 150…

And OP, just don’t let ANY of your kids eat a dozen cookies! It’s not good for them, either.

Lol. Your son is not “all muscle” at 6’2, 150. He is scrawny. My husband is 6’1” and 185lbs and is not “all muscle” though he is pretty muscular and in great shape. He is thin and has an high metabolism. He has to drink protein shakes after every workout and lift 5 times a week to be muscular otherwise he loses weight. He never gets below 170 (if he slacks off).

LOL to you, ya doofus! Your husband is a grown man, and my son is a child who hasn’t even gone through puberty yet… have you ever even seen a child?

Don’t be defensive because I called you out on your scrawny son. He is almost underweight according to his bmi. “All muscle” he is not. Maybe bones.

This sounds like someone whose son filled out at 12 and they can't comprehend that other kids are different. Obtuse and narrow-minded...and not very bright.

DP, totally fine that this kid is filling out later but he’s not the example his mommy thinks he is.