What Does FCPS Do with Excess Capacity at Herndon HS

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

FCPS grad here. Not true to some extent. I remember how some of my high school teachers told me in confidence they only wanted to teach at the AP level because they wanted higher motivated students with less discipline issues.
you probably get that to some extent where teachers rather teacher in a higher rated school cs lower rated school.

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Anonymous wrote:They need to shift the western boundaries so that more Franklin Farm kids go to Herndon/South Lakes instead of Oakton.

Then shift some of the Chantilly kids to Oakton.

Shift some Westfield kids to Centreville.

Leave everyone else alone. We need to fix the western Fairfax issues.

Huh? Which Chantilly kids should get moved to Oakton if you move Franklin Farm kids to Herndon? I can't think of any neighborhoods in which that would make a lick of sense.

Franklin middle school. Send those kids to Oakton. There’s also a sliver that go to Carson and then Oakton.

About HALF of Franklin Farm is Carson-->Oakton. Far more than a sliver.
A small amount of Franklin Farm is Franklin-->Oakton.
About HALF of Franklin Farm is Franklin-->Chantilly.

Are you proposing that all of Franklin Farm should go to Herndon and then you want to move the remainder of the Franklin Middle kids to Oakton? Including the kids who live in Chantilly Highlands, Highland Mews, (both closer to Herndon than Franklin Farm is!) and The Fields? That makes no sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:gf mommy got up at 2 and doing her usual thing

I’m asking you a valid question, and you are responding like a pre-teen. I’m genuinely interested, where do your kids go? Are you afraid to be exposed as a hypocrite?

Not that poster, but the only valid question is the one posed in the OP - how should FCPS best make use of the hundreds of surplus seats now at Herndon?

Of course, that’s your opinion. I’m interested in the motives of people who ask your purportedly “valid question”.

So posters tell you where their kids go or will go, and you’ll decide their “motives” from that data point? That’s exactly why we have no interest in engaging with you on your terms.

DP - Do you even hear yourself? You refuse to tell us where your kids go, yet you feel it's your right to decide where OTHER kids go to school. No. Unless you tell the truth about what school your kids attend, your opinion about other people's kids is completely irrelevant.

You don’t get to decide whose opinions matter and whose don’t, honey.

Figuring out how to make the best use of hundreds of now-available seats at Herndon is an entirely appropriate question to discuss on this forum and, for that matter, anywhere else.

Where do your kids go to school?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

+1
This "altruistic" shtick the PP keeps putting on is almost funny, it's so transparent. And yet, she still won't cough up where her kids go to school.

[Anonymous]

Realistically, in the absence of a dedicated Tyson’s HS (why isn’t the County pursuing this?), more McLean HS zoned families who live near Langley HS will have to go to Langley, and existing families zoned for Langley will have to be rezoned for Herndon. I don’t see any way around it.

There simply isn’t room at McLean HS or Marshall HA for all those forthcoming Tyson’s kids, and there isn’t another high school available for Tyson’s kids to attend, so more room will have to be made available at McLean and Marshall through rezoning.

Langley is the only place Fairfax County can move those McLean HS kids, and Langley is already projected to be at or near capacity in a few years, so some existing Langley zoned kids — likely those who live nearest Herndon — will almost certainly be rezoned. I think the only question up in the air is how many kids will have to be moved (100? 200? 300?); I think the County will move the fewest kids possible, even if it means leaving unused capacity at Herndon in the near term.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

GTFOH. There’s no one more racist than the Langley parents always itching to scream “You wouldn’t send your kids to Herndon so why should we?”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Agree.
—HHS parent

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Where did the kids go who used to be there? Why is there such a decline?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

GTFOH. There’s no one more racist than the Langley parents always itching to scream “You wouldn’t send your kids to Herndon so why should we?”

Quite literally, I don’t understand your argument. The least logic statement on this thread, and man, that is saying something.

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I’m excited for boundary changes like all the new capacity available for Centreville that Chantilly can now shift to use. Likewise, Herndon can gladly accept Langley kids to help balance out the school populations. I think Lewis is underenrolled too. WSHS is also overenrolled I think.

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

GTFOH. There’s no one more racist than the Langley parents always itching to scream “You wouldn’t send your kids to Herndon so why should we?”

Quite literally, I don’t understand your argument. The least logic statement on this thread, and man, that is saying something.

There’s a nasty Langley parent constantly demanding that other posters identify their kids’ schools.

The only reason she does it is because she wants to claim they wouldn’t move their kid from School X to Herndon, so why should any part of Langley have to move (or move back) to Herndon.

Other areas may get redistricted, but the Langley poster not only expects, but demands, special treatment. She doesn’t even live in the part of Great Falls that might stand to be moved back to Herndon, but she’s always looking for an excuse to tell others their opinions don’t matter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

GTFOH. There’s no one more racist than the Langley parents always itching to scream “You wouldn’t send your kids to Herndon so why should we?”

Quite literally, I don’t understand your argument. The least logic statement on this thread, and man, that is saying something.

There’s a nasty Langley parent constantly demanding that other posters identify their kids’ schools.

The only reason she does it is because she wants to claim they wouldn’t move their kid from School X to Herndon, so why should any part of Langley have to move (or move back) to Herndon.

Other areas may get redistricted, but the Langley poster not only expects, but demands, special treatment. She doesn’t even live in the part of Great Falls that might stand to be moved back to Herndon, but she’s always looking for an excuse to tell others their opinions don’t matter.

Sure. It’s the Langley parent that is nasty, not you and your vitriolic rants.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

First, it’s not a zero-sum game if we spend scarce capital resources expanding schools but don’t use that space because it might offend some entitled Langley mom. It’s a net negative.

Second, if Forestville kids moved back to Langley, it would increase the demand for advanced courses that Herndon is otherwise fully capable of offering. There’s nothing racist in acknowledging this. But I guess you’re fine with a situation where scheduling conflicts are more likely to be an issue at Herndon than at other schools.

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

First, it’s not a zero-sum game if we spend scarce capital resources expanding schools but don’t use that space because it might offend some entitled Langley mom. It’s a net negative.

Second, if Forestville kids moved back to Langley, it would increase the demand for advanced courses that Herndon is otherwise fully capable of offering. There’s nothing racist in acknowledging this. But I guess you’re fine with a situation where scheduling conflicts are more likely to be an issue at Herndon than at other schools.

DS at HMS, and even I think your Forestville efforts are pretty racist.