What Does FCPS Do with Excess Capacity at Herndon HS

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

First, it’s not a zero-sum game if we spend scarce capital resources expanding schools but don’t use that space because it might offend some entitled Langley mom. It’s a net negative.

Second, if Forestville kids moved back to Langley, it would increase the demand for advanced courses that Herndon is otherwise fully capable of offering. There’s nothing racist in acknowledging this. But I guess you’re fine with a situation where scheduling conflicts are more likely to be an issue at Herndon than at other schools.

DS at HMS, and even I think your Forestville efforts are pretty racist.

This is hilarious. No one on either side wants the equity crusader meddling in their schools. Go back to worrying about your own kids’ education, rather than social engineering.

DP. I am. I could give 2 flying f—k about where Langley kids end up. But something got to give. My kids education is being compromised by being at Chantilly with dozens of trailers and sitting at 125% of capacity. Dealing with that level of overcrowding is not social engineering or DEI or whatever it’s competent management.

DP. Sure, and you have a good point. But Chantilly overcrowding has nothing to do with Langley.

Wow. Talk about being myopic. In any comprehensive boundary adjustment, of course Chantilly overcrowding could affect Langley. I know you think that the other 24 HSs in FCPS revolve around Langley, but they don’t. You sound like Jan on the Brady Bunch. “Langley, Langley, Langley”. Western county boundaries are an intertwined mess— and not just at the HS level. PP is right, as an example, that Carson boundaries are a mess. Any substantive discussion and compressive solution of underenrollment at HHS ends up and boundary adjustments involving ESs and MSs as well Centerville, Chantilly, Westfield, SLHS, HHS, Langley, probably McLean and Oakton. Maybe even Madison. And I’m probably missing a school or two.

I know that in your mind only Langley counts. And sure shuffling some kids between HHS and Langley helps solve one part of one problem. But that’s a band aid over the bullet hole solution. If there is going to be an actual, substantive solution, it won’t just involve HHS and Langley. 6 or 8 or 10 other HSs will come along for the ride. Including Chantilly, because their overenrollment has to go somewhere, and some Chantilly kids do have Herndon addresses (like the many of the Oak Hill kids). For Chantilly kids closer to Carson, HHS might be one option. Or, the might go to Westfield, and some Westfield kids might go to HHS. Western County boundary cannot be solved by moving one neighborhood from one school to another. In the end, about 1/3 of FCPS HSs are involved.

I hate these threads where people are trying to have a substantive conversation and the Langley parents jump in, insult everyone, and insist that only the impact on Langley matters. It may be all that matters to you, but Langley and HHS would not be the only two schools involved in a meaningful boundary change that addresses even half of the issues with Weatern County boundaries.

We know where Langley parents stand. Their kids deserve a school that is 1-2% FARMs and ELL. Basically, a private school in a public school system. Message received, loud and clear. So Please. Go away. Lots of other parents and kids from lots of other schools are affected. And I know you can’t fathom this, but they have opinions worth considering and concerns that need to be addressed too.
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This should be the sticky for the entire FCPS forum.

Great - then stop bringing up Langley in the first place. Just a thought.

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Anonymous wrote:No offense but it’s not the schools that are good, it’s the kids. If you redistrict Langley kids to another school, the other school will increase by that amount. Schools are such a tiny part of academic achievement (meaning they all teach roughly the same). It’s mostly parents.

Bingo. Thats exactly why considering how to efficiently use available space and minimize transportation costs where possible likely makes sense.

Nah, I don’t but your zero-sum game utopia, and I’m not interested in theory-testing with my kids being your lab rats. Also, it’s a little racist/classist for you to claim that Forestville students would make Herndon High better.

First, it’s not a zero-sum game if we spend scarce capital resources expanding schools but don’t use that space because it might offend some entitled Langley mom. It’s a net negative.

Second, if Forestville kids moved back to Langley, it would increase the demand for advanced courses that Herndon is otherwise fully capable of offering. There’s nothing racist in acknowledging this. But I guess you’re fine with a situation where scheduling conflicts are more likely to be an issue at Herndon than at other schools.

DS at HMS, and even I think your Forestville efforts are pretty racist.

This is hilarious. No one on either side wants the equity crusader meddling in their schools. Go back to worrying about your own kids’ education, rather than social engineering.

DP. I am. I could give 2 flying f—k about where Langley kids end up. But something got to give. My kids education is being compromised by being at Chantilly with dozens of trailers and sitting at 125% of capacity. Dealing with that level of overcrowding is not social engineering or DEI or whatever it’s competent management.

DP. Sure, and you have a good point. But Chantilly overcrowding has nothing to do with Langley.

Wow. Talk about being myopic. In any comprehensive boundary adjustment, of course Chantilly overcrowding could affect Langley. I know you think that the other 24 HSs in FCPS revolve around Langley, but they don’t. You sound like Jan on the Brady Bunch. “Langley, Langley, Langley”. Western county boundaries are an intertwined mess— and not just at the HS level. PP is right, as an example, that Carson boundaries are a mess. Any substantive discussion and compressive solution of underenrollment at HHS ends up and boundary adjustments involving ESs and MSs as well Centerville, Chantilly, Westfield, SLHS, HHS, Langley, probably McLean and Oakton. Maybe even Madison. And I’m probably missing a school or two.

I know that in your mind only Langley counts. And sure shuffling some kids between HHS and Langley helps solve one part of one problem. But that’s a band aid over the bullet hole solution. If there is going to be an actual, substantive solution, it won’t just involve HHS and Langley. 6 or 8 or 10 other HSs will come along for the ride. Including Chantilly, because their overenrollment has to go somewhere, and some Chantilly kids do have Herndon addresses (like the many of the Oak Hill kids). For Chantilly kids closer to Carson, HHS might be one option. Or, the might go to Westfield, and some Westfield kids might go to HHS. Western County boundary cannot be solved by moving one neighborhood from one school to another. In the end, about 1/3 of FCPS HSs are involved.

I hate these threads where people are trying to have a substantive conversation and the Langley parents jump in, insult everyone, and insist that only the impact on Langley matters. It may be all that matters to you, but Langley and HHS would not be the only two schools involved in a meaningful boundary change that addresses even half of the issues with Weatern County boundaries.

We know where Langley parents stand. Their kids deserve a school that is 1-2% FARMs and ELL. Basically, a private school in a public school system. Message received, loud and clear. So Please. Go away. Lots of other parents and kids from lots of other schools are affected. And I know you can’t fathom this, but they have opinions worth considering and concerns that need to be addressed too.
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SMDH.

This should be the sticky for the entire FCPS forum.

Great - then stop bringing up Langley in the first place. Just a thought.

Amen. They always talk out of both sides of their mouths.