He used red pill terminology

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I came across an academic paper that describes some of the commonalities and differences in the various communities.

"[G]roups within the Manosphere broadly embrace ‘Red Pill’ philosophy. This philosophy is a conceptual metaphor derived from the 1999 film The Matrix and which in the Manosphere is held to reveal the true machinations of the ‘real’ world— a world that economic models of scarcity, biological essentialism,
and evolutionary hierarchies fundamentally govern, but which has paradoxically become socially restrained and feminized. Consumers of this Red Pill claim that the harsh realities of the world they perceive remain largely hidden to the social majority, which remains deluded or ignorant thanks to the continual imbibement of the contrasting ‘Blue Pill’. Effectively, the Red Pill promises an antidote to what is regarded as modern men’s ‘slavery’ to women and an unjust social hierarchy. Men are informed that they live within a pecking order comprised of a minority of ‘Alphas.’ and the majority of so-called Blue-Pill ‘Betas.’
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The Red Pill, as a framework, provides a diverse set of Manosphere groups with a particular narrative about how and why men’s lives have become increasingly difficult and insecure and provide new categories and routines through which to concretize a sense of self. For example, PUAs embrace the Red Pill in their adherence to the idea that men need to adopt non-Blue Pill strategies and game the ‘system’ to successfully meet and seduce women (and
often seem to enjoy the thrill of the ‘chase’ more than the outcome) (O’Neill, 2018). By contrast, while MGTOWs adhere to the same aspects of the Red Pill framework (i.e., that being Blue Pill leads to poor interactions with women and inevitably a miserable and dead-end marriage for betas), they conclude that a non-alpha man is best off avoiding women altogether. Thus, they pursue a life without women. MRAs are interested in raising social awareness for issues that affect men negatively and which they believe are the result of a predominantly Blue Pill society. For example, they often highlight how outcomes of divorce proceedings seem to unfairly limit a man’s access to his children while simultaneously transferring a disproportionate amount of his financial assets to the woman (an outcome referred to as “divorce-rape” in both Red Pill and MRA contexts ). Lastly, those in the incel community also commit to the Red Pill concept that women ‘date up’ (by seeking ‘high-value men’); however, they typically believe that PUA strategies will not work for them due to factors around biological determinism and evolutionary psychology that preclude them from being a viable partner for a woman."

Source: https://fastcapitalism.journal.library.uta.edu/index.php/fastcapitalism/article/view/447/524

This article doesn't seem right. It doesn't mention anything about Republicans.

Hah. I thought the description of the Manosphere and the Red Pill was decent, but then they went on to pin the blame for the rise of misogyny on "neoliberalism."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I don't think there's really any coming back from any sentence that includes "women are whores" into good boy friend material

Yep. Get out, and block him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is such a hard question. I have also had to make this call. I’m sorry to say that one time I decided to overlook it and things went very, VERY wrong.

That said, it depends on the terminology. Some words have seeped outside of that community more than others. Does he spend a lot of time on Reddit? I’ve noticed many on non-redpill Redits have absorbed redpill terms and ideas.

Trust your gut. At a minimum, he’s on strike one. Any more red flags, and you get out.

How did things go wrong?

PP here. It went wrong with him date * assaulting me.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Guy I just started dating recently used some red pill terminology. Other than this he’s been awesome. But due to him using the terminology I don’t think I can continue. Anyone have a successful relationship with a man who would use this type of terminology?

He sounds masculine.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Anonymous]

Get a grip. Why are you crowdsourcing advice from this site? Do what you think is best rather than taking advice from random people who you don’t know (including me).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He (inferred) insinuated that women over 30 who aren’t married are whores ... and that their degrees won’t keep them warm at night.

Michel Houellebec's "Whatever" anticipated the incel movement. When people marry later, the liberated sexual marketplace depresses marriage rates and increases sexlessness.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

The "Red Pill" metaphor just says women are not vending machines machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Never-married women in their mid-thirties have not prioritized relationships. If they prioritized education and career, that's great. But unless they change those priorities, they will struggle to find a partner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:“Red pill” is a cluster of beliefs and groups that teach people, usually adolescent and young men, that women are lesser than men, dependent on men, and fundamentally dishonest about their desires related to men and sex.

It attracts men who are frustrated that they aren’t getting the attention they want or feel they deserve from women and attracts other men who would prey on these frustrations for influence and profit.

One of the fundamental red pill principles is that chicks dig jerks. Feminism has women talking about equality, respectfulness, and so forth; but when it comes down to lust and sex, their bodies choose aggressive, dominant, non-feminist men. After all, when women are in their twenties, sexually adventurous, and hot enough to have a wide range of options in men, which men are they choosing? Not the meek, sensitive, cerebral types.

So, fellas, if you want women to take your resources & secretly despise you, listen to what they say. If you want to have sex with them, take the red pill and watch what they do.

A lot of this used to be called negging and guys knew about it before the whole incel thing came about. Guys back in the 80s knew a lot of women would try to please a guy who hit them with a bunch of negativity upfront. It leaves you unsettled and questioning what you're doing wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m over 30 and I like sex. And he’s right: my degrees don’t keep me warm at night, because I can afford to keep my thermostat at a comfortable temperature.

I love you!

[Anonymous]

Update. I had another conversation with him and it was even more disturbing than the last. Should I just block and delete? Or would you explain why you cannot continue?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update. I had another conversation with him and it was even more disturbing than the last. Should I just block and delete? Or would you explain why you cannot continue?

If this is not a troll - Does he know where you live and/or work? Is he confrontational? Would he be easy to ghost or not? Only you know and need to decide how you handle from here.

If he knows virtually nothing about you and it's early days, block and delete and don't go grocery stores in his hood.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Update. I had another conversation with him and it was even more disturbing than the last. Should I just block and delete? Or would you explain why you cannot continue?

If this isn’t a troll, stop posting accounts without details. Its uninteresting.

And yes, move on.

[Anonymous]

“I’m sorry you feel that way about women”

[Anonymous]

I’m trying to follow all of this but I don’t understand how we can be whores slutting around with all the muscle jerks but also alone because we prioritized our careers? And also to blame for sexless nice men?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He (inferred) insinuated that women over 30 who aren’t married are whores ... and that their degrees won’t keep them warm at night.

Michel Houellebec's "Whatever" anticipated the incel movement. When people marry later, the liberated sexual marketplace depresses marriage rates and increases sexlessness.
https://ifstudies.org/blog/male-sexlessness-is-rising-but-not-for-the-reasons-incels-claim

The "Red Pill" metaphor just says women are not vending machines machines that you put kindness coins into until sex falls out. Never-married women in their mid-thirties have not prioritized relationships. If they prioritized education and career, that's great. But unless they change those priorities, they will struggle to find a partner.

get help

[Anonymous]

Take the Blue pill