He used red pill terminology

[Anonymous]

Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing. It’s scary. He would be such a catch if he were not an a-hole. But he is staunchly committed to this ideology. Stay safe ladies!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Men ... also compare what they think they are told (women like smart, sensitive guys ...) with what they think they see (again - jerks getting the girl). Enter someone who wants their money ..., add a bunch of social media types telling the virgin nerds that they are privileged and bad and should just suck it up, and holy shit! We have a toxic brew.

Yes, men's forums became infested with commercial PUA scammers, self-promoters like Andrew Tate, Walter Mitty alter-egos, and bitter misogynists. But as Scott Alexander wrote in "Radicalizing the Romanceless", they were the only place to go for useful commiseration and advice. Feminists were nasty to him. DMV dating authors Erika Ettin and Jennifer Lourie kept spreadsheets of their online dates, using men for free dinners and book material. Scott Alexander needed to avoid such women.

DCUM has many Red-Pill-aware posters. Indeed, DC spawned notorious haters Roosh and Roissy. D.C. has the thinnest and most educated women in the country, so men should not complain. But it is also very polarized about dating, and Jeff is quick to nuke posts that offend his sensibilities.

Roosh went off the deep end. He was always a sexist d!ck, but at least he was entertaining to read. He's a crazy radical now. Didn't he get arrested?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Roosh went off the deep end. He was always a sexist d!ck, but at least he was entertaining to read. He's a crazy radical now. Didn't he get arrested?

No, in 2014 he merely posed in DDR museum jail cell.
https://www.wehuntedthemammoth.com/2014/03/02/manosphere-drama-roosh-valizadeh-reportedly-arrested-in-poland-after-violent-confrontation/

After using hate-bait marketing to get ad clicks, he got banned from England, Australia, Amazon, Paypal, Youtube, etc. Then he did mushrooms, converted back to his childhood religion of Christian Orthodox, moved back to his mother, and unpublished his pick-up/travel books. Manosphere authors Milo Yiannopolous and Victor Pride also converted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. He inferred that women over 30 who aren’t married are whores who just want to have a bunch of sex, and that their degrees won’t keep them warm at night. He also made multiple comments about how “women are”. It’s weird that he kept lumping all women together and generalizing. I’ve run across this before and find it creepy. But there were also good things about him.

Oh honey, no. Find someone else.

Yeah I'd rather cuddle with my diploma!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

I mean - if you can’t see the above comment for the toxic, personality-disordered screed it is … I don’t know what to say to you. Pro tip: any man who talks about women “spreading their legs” should be avoided at all costs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

WTF? I mean, I can “understand” that sexist POS I guess the same way I can understand a radicalized suicide bomber or white supremacist. That doesn’t make his rhetoric any less disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

Plenty of people have no dates throughout all of college. Especially in colleges like MIT which skews male, and did even moreso in prior years like when our writer was in college. Places like RPI are still practically 2:1 male:female. If you go to a school like that and come out bitter no one dates you, what stands in front of you is your ego and the belief that you are somehow “better” than other men, and so entitled to female attention. Entitlement to female attention does not get you dates.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

Plenty of people have no dates throughout all of college. Especially in colleges like MIT which skews male, and did even moreso in prior years like when our writer was in college. Places like RPI are still practically 2:1 male:female. If you go to a school like that and come out bitter no one dates you, what stands in front of you is your ego and the belief that you are somehow “better” than other men, and so entitled to female attention. Entitlement to female attention does not get you dates.

Right? Does PP think that expressing such grievances is the way to get dates?
I spent a good part of my later 20s in NYC as a woman unable to find anyone willing to commit to anything beyond a ONS. I didn’t develop some kind of toxic philosophy about men. I just tried harder and learned to avoid the ones who were not right for me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

Plenty of people have no dates throughout all of college. Especially in colleges like MIT which skews male, and did even moreso in prior years like when our writer was in college. Places like RPI are still practically 2:1 male:female. If you go to a school like that and come out bitter no one dates you, what stands in front of you is your ego and the belief that you are somehow “better” than other men, and so entitled to female attention. Entitlement to female attention does not get you dates.

Right? Does PP think that expressing such grievances is the way to get dates?
I spent a good part of my later 20s in NYC as a woman unable to find anyone willing to commit to anything beyond a ONS. I didn’t develop some kind of toxic philosophy about men. I just tried harder and learned to avoid the ones who were not right for me.

I have no desire to defend that guy or his comment. He's clearly toxic and a misogynist. But I doubt he started that way. In the beginning, the reason he wasn't getting dates probably wasn't that he was spewing this kind of toxicity. You have to work up to that. He probably wasn't athletic or assertive, and he saw that, notwithstanding the prevailing wisdom about being sensitive & funny, those were the kinds of guys women wanted to date or have sex with. At least during the age where he was building up his toxicity.

Also, it's easy to take the worst examples of the other side and compare them unfavorably against our reasonable experiences or those of "our" side.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

Plenty of people have no dates throughout all of college. Especially in colleges like MIT which skews male, and did even moreso in prior years like when our writer was in college. Places like RPI are still practically 2:1 male:female. If you go to a school like that and come out bitter no one dates you, what stands in front of you is your ego and the belief that you are somehow “better” than other men, and so entitled to female attention. Entitlement to female attention does not get you dates.

Right? Does PP think that expressing such grievances is the way to get dates?
I spent a good part of my later 20s in NYC as a woman unable to find anyone willing to commit to anything beyond a ONS. I didn’t develop some kind of toxic philosophy about men. I just tried harder and learned to avoid the ones who were not right for me.

I have no desire to defend that guy or his comment. He's clearly toxic and a misogynist. But I doubt he started that way. In the beginning, the reason he wasn't getting dates probably wasn't that he was spewing this kind of toxicity. You have to work up to that. He probably wasn't athletic or assertive, and he saw that, notwithstanding the prevailing wisdom about being sensitive & funny, those were the kinds of guys women wanted to date or have sex with. At least during the age where he was building up his toxicity.

Also, it's easy to take the worst examples of the other side and compare them unfavorably against our reasonable experiences or those of "our" side.

On a positive note, he avoided all of those women who actively date men they are not interested in for a free meal.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

Plenty of people have no dates throughout all of college. Especially in colleges like MIT which skews male, and did even moreso in prior years like when our writer was in college. Places like RPI are still practically 2:1 male:female. If you go to a school like that and come out bitter no one dates you, what stands in front of you is your ego and the belief that you are somehow “better” than other men, and so entitled to female attention. Entitlement to female attention does not get you dates.

Right? Does PP think that expressing such grievances is the way to get dates?
I spent a good part of my later 20s in NYC as a woman unable to find anyone willing to commit to anything beyond a ONS. I didn’t develop some kind of toxic philosophy about men. I just tried harder and learned to avoid the ones who were not right for me.

I have no desire to defend that guy or his comment. He's clearly toxic and a misogynist. But I doubt he started that way. In the beginning, the reason he wasn't getting dates probably wasn't that he was spewing this kind of toxicity. You have to work up to that. He probably wasn't athletic or assertive, and he saw that, notwithstanding the prevailing wisdom about being sensitive & funny, those were the kinds of guys women wanted to date or have sex with. At least during the age where he was building up his toxicity.

Also, it's easy to take the worst examples of the other side and compare them unfavorably against our reasonable experiences or those of "our" side.

I still don’t understand what point you are trying to make? It’s not inevitable that someone unhappy with their romantic life adopts such a sexist and toxic set of beliefs. It’s also quite abnormal to have such a strong reaction to “prevailing wisdom” whatever that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Weird how the brilliant nerds become victims so quickly. Everyone’s fault by their own. Gosh if only they understood the value of Personal Responsibility and didn’t blame everyone else for their failures.

Anonymous wrote:Op here. The above really does closely capture the guy my post is referencing.

A viral blog comment by "Michael" epitomized the bitter attitude.

I’m 32 years old and have never been married ... always went to church ..., university, law school ... . It hurt me to watch these girls go out of their way to pursue and spread their legs for complete losers. ... As time went on I was labeled “husband material” by the girls on my campus. This phrase continued to plague me into my late 20’s. This label resulted in ZERO DATES all through college. ... Now at 32 and successful these women are hitting me. ... At 30+ women’s physical appearance has nowhere to go but DOWN. ... And if I cannot marry a women in her 20’s I REFUSE TO EVER GET MARRIED. ... I will not be a starter husband for one of these used up women. I can’t tell you the number of men I’ve known who married late and were rewarded by losing everything they spent their lives building … .
https://dalrock.wordpress.com/2012/11/24/more-grim-news-for-carousellers-hoping-to-jump-at-the-last-minute/#comment-62160

“Spread their legs”?

I can see why people didn’t want to date him.

The reason you don’t understand is because you can’t imagine a world where you would have no dates throughout all of college.

Plenty of people have no dates throughout all of college. Especially in colleges like MIT which skews male, and did even moreso in prior years like when our writer was in college. Places like RPI are still practically 2:1 male:female. If you go to a school like that and come out bitter no one dates you, what stands in front of you is your ego and the belief that you are somehow “better” than other men, and so entitled to female attention. Entitlement to female attention does not get you dates.

Right? Does PP think that expressing such grievances is the way to get dates?
I spent a good part of my later 20s in NYC as a woman unable to find anyone willing to commit to anything beyond a ONS. I didn’t develop some kind of toxic philosophy about men. I just tried harder and learned to avoid the ones who were not right for me.

I have no desire to defend that guy or his comment. He's clearly toxic and a misogynist. But I doubt he started that way. In the beginning, the reason he wasn't getting dates probably wasn't that he was spewing this kind of toxicity. You have to work up to that. He probably wasn't athletic or assertive, and he saw that, notwithstanding the prevailing wisdom about being sensitive & funny, those were the kinds of guys women wanted to date or have sex with. At least during the age where he was building up his toxicity.

Also, it's easy to take the worst examples of the other side and compare them unfavorably against our reasonable experiences or those of "our" side.

DP I know you don't realize it, but you're blaming the toxicity on women not wanting to date certain men.

When I was in high school I encountered a couple of boys that wanted to date me and got upset when I rejected them. I didn't hear them using toxic language about girls/women, but I could already see glimmers of entitlement. I wasn't looking for assertiveness or athleticism. But I could also see through these guys who thought they were so nice and sensitive but actually didn't know how to listen and didn't react well to not getting what they wanted.