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Here is the thing, the 1619 project is not "fake" history, it is actual history told through a different lens than the one you were taught when you were in school. But now, we are at the point where kids are being taught that Rosa Park was simply asked to move off the bus, but not why. I mean, isn't that a critical part to understanding the civil right movement? Slaves are being cast as happy to get whatever scraps they can for their hard days work. Does that sound accurate? Ignoring things like the Tulsa massacre, the redlining of properties, the ongoing horrors of reconstruction and the celebration of Confederate traitors is all part of our history. HOW we tell that history shapes perceptions of our country's founding and the ongoing struggle to make it a more perfect union for ALL of our citizens (many of whom were not considered citizens or even full people under the original writing of the Constitution) Get it? Or are you just wanting to believe that the Founding Fathers were infallable, that slaves were happy to be here, that black people were careless stupid minstrels, etc? |
| Tuberville is doing nothing about the Slavs who are claiming white heritage. What claim does someone with a family from Poland have on the breakthroughs of Newton, the music of Wagner, or the conquests of Washington? |
| You all know that Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, right? |
The Slavic people have common Christianity cultural heritage. The Slavic people implementation of similar roman law concepts and Greek philosophy concepts and implementation of Orthodox. 2000 years of shared historical influence. For my country, we have had sinofication over thousands of years to establish a greater overall culture to areas of a greater China. I do not see the difference, even though we still have some regional differences we see us as one people for 90% of the country. |
The great American achievements and most of the relevant European achievements were made by Protestants. Catholicism isn't a realistic foundation of common heritage for white people. (And Eastern Orthodox is barely more Christian than Mormonism.) Protestants and Catholics had prolonged, bloody wars in Europe for a reason. Really, I think you have to get west of the Mongol contamination and into Protestant territories before you're really talking about significant white heritage. The inclusiveness of guys like Tuberville risks diminishing the heritage of peoples with a legitimate claim on the achievements of Western civilization. |
| I’d be interested to hear what the black athletes who were coached by Tuberville have to say. I wonder how many NDAs have been deployed? |
I am sure they would most certainly defend him since they totally understand what he was saying as anyone with common sense does. |
So all those Black people in the South, whose ancestors were brought here in chains by your ancestors who OWNED OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, they’re ok with that? |
With what? With the fact that liberals - especially white liberals - call anyone that disagrees with their progressive agenda "Nazi" or "Racist" or "White supremacist" or any other name in an attempt to quell discussion? |
| Republicans are the ones banning books and ejecting representatives from state houses. They’re the ones who don’t want the discussion. |
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Honestly, I just dont think Tuberville is the smartest kid on the block. I think it is entirely possible that he did not realize that a "white nationalist" is a white supremacist.
Unless you spend a lot of time on social media, a lot of these terms are not known. Many years ago, I was with some Asian friends and used the term 'Oriental." They quickly told me that it was considered a racist term. I have not used it again since then and I am still friends with these women--though we were considered "girls" then. Unless you are informed, you do not necessarily know these things. Even if you don't like someone or approve of them, you can give them the benefit of the doubt. |
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I’d give a regular schmo the benefit of the doubt on these things. We had a situation where a good dude didn’t know gypsy was offensive or that gypped came from Gypsy. We explained it, he adapted, and all was good.
But Tuberville was chosen by a State, out of millions of citizens, to help govern our Nation. He doesn’t get a pass. |
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The OP's information is depressing, and then a lot of replies on this thread are depressing.
I suppose at this point I'll just pour myself a drink and let the Wave of Madness get on with it. Feels peaceful really. "Okay, the nation is going insane. This is fine." |
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You can either vote for a party that is supporting a white nationalism, christian authoritarian junta, or you can vote for the Dems.
If you are voting for the GOP, you are supporting White Nationalism. There is a reason why many traditional conservatives are either supporting the dems or simply not voting. |