Senator Tuberville self id’s as white nationalist and wants white nationalists in military

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I look at a White nationalist as a, as a Trump Republican. That’s what we’re called all the time, a MAGA person, that’s what I’m just that.


In an interview with a local Alabama radio station, Republican Sen. Tommy Tuberville was asked if he believes White nationalists should be allowed in the military. He responded, “I call them Americans.”


The radio station WBHM published a transcript of the interview with Tuberville where he was asked, “Do you believe they should allow White nationalists in the military?”

The senator responded, “Well, they call them that. I call them Americans.


https://www.cnn.com/2023/05/11/politics/tommy-tuberville-white-nationalist-military-comments/index.html

What the…? This guy is a straight up confederate.


No. He is stating what all Republicans have come to learn.
Democrats call people names with whom they disagree. They have essentially made terms like "racist" and "white nationalist" irrelevant.


Wrong. The actual racists, white nationalists and xenophones are in the republican party. They used to be democrats until Lyndon Johnson passed the Civil Rights Act. But at that point and through the 1990's, the southern white racists combined with traditional conservatives, and along the way, picked up the Evangelicals and fundamentalist Christians to combine into the modern GOP - a party built on guns, hate and a moral purity that fits THEIR view of America. So if you want to be lumped in with what you are referring to as "them" then you need to be calling out the racism and misogyny. The GOP is no longer "conservative" - the word has been hijacked. Actual conservatism doesn't support book banning, imposition of moral values, activist judges, persecuting private enterprise over "values" or wild economic policies that drive debt and deficit spending, yet these are all things that happen under the modern GOP. Maybe give it a little thought before you jump on the Democrats for calling it out.

For me, I used to be a fiscal conservative, social liberal (you know, let people live how they want) but my GOP left me a long time ago, and given where it is now, I would never vote for the GOP again without a total flushing of the current party. There is no fiscal conservatism in the modern GOP - in fact, the debt and deficit spending the GDP and other metrics have been totally abused by the Bush's and Trump. Nope, the Democrats, believe or not, are a better steward of our economy, better for our standing abroad and better for civil rights for all Americans, no matter how much the GOP in its current state wants to claim otherwise.


TL;DR After the first sentence.....
What I stated is very accurate: "Democrats call people names with whom they disagree."
You only need to read the threads on this site. A Republicans takes a conservative stance on something and some liberal comes back with "racist." They are calling a person whom they have never met a racist simply because of their views. Even when those views have NOTHING to do with race. I have seen it on here repeatedly and have even been called one myself. It is ludicrous. They call Republicans "white nationalists" when they believe that the priorities of Americans should be considered First when it comes to national policy decisions. Another ridiculous attempt at demeaning others.

Tuberville is simply calling out all the liberals who love to throw around names for others merely because they disagree with them. This is what the liberals have been doing for the past I don't know how many years and it is nothing more than an attempt to shut down discussion and deflect from the fact that they have no coherent argument.


WHITE AMERICANS and you forgot about the part where the great multicultural heritage and history of the US is whitewashed (literally) by what these people want our kids to learn, or not learn, about the founding and growth of our country, how institutional racism and sexism impacts the development and laid the foundation for where we are today.

You are illustrating the point by your words or lack of vision for living in anyone else's shoes.


Total Bull$hit.
Just because we don't want our kids to learn about the fake history promoted by the 1619 project doesn't mean history is being whitewashed.
And, the real whitewashing is happening when the mob forces cities and officials to remove statues commemorating our history. What benefit is it to remove a statue of Lincoln or of Theodore Roosevelt?


Here is the thing, the 1619 project is not "fake" history, it is actual history told through a different lens than the one you were taught when you were in school.

But now, we are at the point where kids are being taught that Rosa Park was simply asked to move off the bus, but not why. I mean, isn't that a critical part to understanding the civil right movement? Slaves are being cast as happy to get whatever scraps they can for their hard days work. Does that sound accurate? Ignoring things like the Tulsa massacre, the redlining of properties, the ongoing horrors of reconstruction and the celebration of Confederate traitors is all part of our history. HOW we tell that history shapes perceptions of our country's founding and the ongoing struggle to make it a more perfect union for ALL of our citizens (many of whom were not considered citizens or even full people under the original writing of the Constitution)

Get it? Or are you just wanting to believe that the Founding Fathers were infallable, that slaves were happy to be here, that black people were careless stupid minstrels, etc?
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Tuberville is doing nothing about the Slavs who are claiming white heritage. What claim does someone with a family from Poland have on the breakthroughs of Newton, the music of Wagner, or the conquests of Washington?
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You all know that Hispanic is an ethnicity, not a race, right?
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Anonymous wrote:Tuberville is doing nothing about the Slavs who are claiming white heritage. What claim does someone with a family from Poland have on the breakthroughs of Newton, the music of Wagner, or the conquests of Washington?


The Slavic people have common Christianity cultural heritage.

The Slavic people implementation of similar roman law concepts and Greek philosophy concepts and implementation of Orthodox.

2000 years of shared historical influence.

For my country, we have had sinofication over thousands of years to establish a greater overall culture to areas of a greater China. I do not see the difference, even though we still have some regional differences we see us as one people for 90% of the country.
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Anonymous wrote:Tuberville is doing nothing about the Slavs who are claiming white heritage. What claim does someone with a family from Poland have on the breakthroughs of Newton, the music of Wagner, or the conquests of Washington?


The Slavic people have common Christianity cultural heritage.

The Slavic people implementation of similar roman law concepts and Greek philosophy concepts and implementation of Orthodox.

2000 years of shared historical influence.

For my country, we have had sinofication over thousands of years to establish a greater overall culture to areas of a greater China. I do not see the difference, even though we still have some regional differences we see us as one people for 90% of the country.


The great American achievements and most of the relevant European achievements were made by Protestants. Catholicism isn't a realistic foundation of common heritage for white people. (And Eastern Orthodox is barely more Christian than Mormonism.) Protestants and Catholics had prolonged, bloody wars in Europe for a reason. Really, I think you have to get west of the Mongol contamination and into Protestant territories before you're really talking about significant white heritage. The inclusiveness of guys like Tuberville risks diminishing the heritage of peoples with a legitimate claim on the achievements of Western civilization.
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I’d be interested to hear what the black athletes who were coached by Tuberville have to say. I wonder how many NDAs have been deployed?
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Anonymous wrote:I’d be interested to hear what the black athletes who were coached by Tuberville have to say. I wonder how many NDAs have been deployed?


I am sure they would most certainly defend him since they totally understand what he was saying as anyone with common sense does.
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Anonymous wrote:Our beautiful south land is thriving!!!

We don’t care about your labels and name calling. That’s what Tuberville is telling you. Good for him.


So all those Black people in the South, whose ancestors were brought here in chains by your ancestors who OWNED OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, they’re ok with that?
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Anonymous wrote:Our beautiful south land is thriving!!!

We don’t care about your labels and name calling. That’s what Tuberville is telling you. Good for him.


So all those Black people in the South, whose ancestors were brought here in chains by your ancestors who OWNED OTHER HUMAN BEINGS, they’re ok with that?


With what?
With the fact that liberals - especially white liberals - call anyone that disagrees with their progressive agenda "Nazi" or "Racist" or "White supremacist" or any other name in an attempt to quell discussion?
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Republicans are the ones banning books and ejecting representatives from state houses. They’re the ones who don’t want the discussion.
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Honestly, I just dont think Tuberville is the smartest kid on the block. I think it is entirely possible that he did not realize that a "white nationalist" is a white supremacist.
Unless you spend a lot of time on social media, a lot of these terms are not known.

Many years ago, I was with some Asian friends and used the term 'Oriental." They quickly told me that it was considered a racist term. I have not used it again since then and I am still friends with these women--though we were considered "girls" then. Unless you are informed, you do not necessarily know these things.

Even if you don't like someone or approve of them, you can give them the benefit of the doubt.
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I’d give a regular schmo the benefit of the doubt on these things. We had a situation where a good dude didn’t know gypsy was offensive or that gypped came from Gypsy. We explained it, he adapted, and all was good.

But Tuberville was chosen by a State, out of millions of citizens, to help govern our Nation. He doesn’t get a pass.
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The OP's information is depressing, and then a lot of replies on this thread are depressing.

I suppose at this point I'll just pour myself a drink and let the Wave of Madness get on with it. Feels peaceful really. "Okay, the nation is going insane. This is fine."
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You can either vote for a party that is supporting a white nationalism, christian authoritarian junta, or you can vote for the Dems.

If you are voting for the GOP, you are supporting White Nationalism. There is a reason why many traditional conservatives are either supporting the dems or simply not voting.
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