Missing middle is perfect antidote for Arlington racists

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington has so few older houses of any architectural merit, and you're all rejoicing that one of the few that existed is now primed for demolition?

The FCNP isn't a real paper, by the way. It's basically the personal plaything of Nicholas Benton, and it will slant any story as Benton sees fit.

The house built by segregationists? Nope. Tear it down.

Then tear down the thousands of other houses in Arlington that were built by segregationists. While you are at it, tear down the apartheid wall dividing Waycroft/Woodlawn from Halls Hill/Highview Park.

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Anonymous wrote:Tearing down your SFH to put up more "affordable" townhuses or condos doesn't make you an anti-racist. I do consider myself an anti-racist but let's be real: it's my inner capitalist who is leading the charge to convert my now-SFH into much more profitable multi-family units.

It's not just any SFH though. It's from the family of a prominent segregationist.

Nothing says you can't be entrepreneurial *and* anti-racist. Win/win.

The most prominent segregationist in the area was the Democrat, Harry Byrd. He made the Broyhills look like abolitionists.

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Anonymous wrote:The article is laying it on a little thick. The owners have a large for Arlington property that they are planning to redevelop and have decided to work the victimhood angle to justify what they want to do anyway - make the most money possible off the lot. They just have to figure out what that looks like first with middle middle officially passed.

I’m highly skeptical they have started demolition without a plan in place — so whatever pops up there in the coming months was ALWAYS a the plan, not some racism fueled vendetta.

Since the guy has no job after making millions in DAYCARES of all things, he is clearly developing this property.

Will they lease the land to county and allow goverment housing on the property? A free daycare, a homeless shelter for families, etc?

The is the second dumbest idea I heard this week; the first was that Arlington County should buy the Key Bridge Marriott site for public use, including rooftop pickleball courts.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

You are sure making a lot of assumptions about this couple. Why do you assume it's the husband who is wealthy? Why do you assume it's just from daycare?

No one assumes the $ are solely from daycare profits. The main point of reviewing what can be built on the 1.17 acre lot is the fact that the ARL persons in charge had no common sense on lot size and what can be built by right zoning. From number of units to access, parking, vehicle count.

PP was definitely making assumptions about who was wealthy and why.

They are presumably both attorneys given that they met in law school. There are a billion wealthy attorneys in Arlington. Interesting that the PP is questioning how this particular couple gained their wealth.

Zoning is a different topic than the comments above.

I'm not surprised two rich attorneys marketed their palatial development as some anti-racist production. Gets them good press and ensures neighbors and the county are pre-emptively racist in case they dare to complain.

Neighbors can complain all they want. The couple can do many things here by right.

Right but if your new townhouse development is protested vehemently by the neighbors, future buyers will see that press and be hesitant to buy

Calling neighbors racist is probably dicey too, but the stink of buying one of the hated townhomes will depress the value.

The only thing that will depress the value in that neighborhood is being zoned to the dicey Taylor Elementary School.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

The good news is that the approvals will be limited for the first 5 years, which gives the public plenty of time to see what some initial outcomes look like. That’s also enough time that another election will have come around. The people that were sleepwalking through the process (like so many in MoCo were when they pushed through Thrive 2050) will finally have woken up. Also an opportunity to introduce some defining Propositions on the ballots to restrict this kind of thing.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

Glad to have you. Wish you would have realized this sooner, but we can still make change now

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

Glad to have you. Wish you would have realized this sooner, but we can still make change now

I live in an exurb that has a few Rs in local government. The problem is they’re as insane as the national Rs these days. It’s pathetic, and it’s terrible for the country that these are our only choices.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

Mclean? Note the special tax district conspicously absent everywhere else but Reston. For FX County politicians, the Dranesville District is a pariah less the Town of Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

McLean has very little influence in county government. It’s two zip codes in a county with over a million and the only local officials from McLean likely to be elected this fall are two Democrats - Jimmy Bierman and Rip Sullivan. Bierman would sell out McLean overnight if it would get the Washington Post to call him “progressive,” and Sullivan is in the state legislature and has no say over local zoning.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

You are sure making a lot of assumptions about this couple. Why do you assume it's the husband who is wealthy? Why do you assume it's just from daycare?

No one assumes the $ are solely from daycare profits. The main point of reviewing what can be built on the 1.17 acre lot is the fact that the ARL persons in charge had no common sense on lot size and what can be built by right zoning. From number of units to access, parking, vehicle count.

The article implies he made his wealth running daycares. His wife works with him. He’s the entrepreneur from the article.

If you own multiple centers, maximize occupancy and minimize expenses, you can make a lot of money. Waitlists are long enough that you can still fill centers with people who need to return to work before getting in anywhere better.

Wow, it’s so gross it’s that profitable when they pay so little. I remember seeing a sign in Bright Horizons saying something like “You may not make much wealth, but seeing the children thrive is your reward” or something like that in staff bathroom. I understand they are for profit but not to that degree.

I appreciate that quote. Daycare workers provide a labor of love. They truly believe that the children are our future.

These days, everyone is searching for a hero, someone to look up to. Daycare workers are among the heroes who can fulfill our needs.

Money? Who needs that filthy lucre? Daycare workers show us the way. They let the children’s laughter remind us how we used to be.

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This house has nothing to do with the missing middle issue.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

McLean has very little influence in county government. It’s two zip codes in a county with over a million and the only local officials from McLean likely to be elected this fall are two Democrats - Jimmy Bierman and Rip Sullivan. Bierman would sell out McLean overnight if it would get the Washington Post to call him “progressive,” and Sullivan is in the state legislature and has no say over local zoning.

Mclean is going to become it's own city, it's own kingdom. Fairfax County will mi$$ u$ and our tax dollar$.

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

McLean has very little influence in county government. It’s two zip codes in a county with over a million and the only local officials from McLean likely to be elected this fall are two Democrats - Jimmy Bierman and Rip Sullivan. Bierman would sell out McLean overnight if it would get the Washington Post to call him “progressive,” and Sullivan is in the state legislature and has no say over local zoning.

Mclean is going to become its own city, its own kingdom. Fairfax County will mi$$ u$ and our tax dollar$.

Don’t you have some work to do on your 400-acre farm in Loudoun, troll boy?