Missing middle is perfect antidote for Arlington racists

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

It's not going to be any more devastating than the fugly McMansions going up everywhere anyway.

Community trying to tear itself apart and a fugly McMansion is like comparing apples and spoons. They are not even in the same category.

Many of the concerns brought up by MM opponents are also true for fugly McMansions.

How exactly will the community tear itself apart now that MM has passed? No more need for community forums/signs/NextDoor debates. People will move on. Some MF housing will be built, but not a ton.

More street parking and traffic, overcrowded schools, more competition for scarce community classes and parks (have you eve registered for gymnastics?), more strain on water and sewage systems. A bigger SFH simply removes more trees and has more run off.

I just drove through the neighborhood in Westover with all the new townhomes, ie multi family housing, no there is no issue with street parking. However on my street where there are 4+ new builds everyone of those owners has at least one car parked on the street. And the problem on water and sewage systems is negligible whether it’s a McMansion with 5-6 bathrooms or a duplex; if both build to the max lot size they are both reducing the amount of land to absorb water and creating storm water issues. Beyond that, I don’t see community classes as a right; there are plenty of private options and while some schools may be over crowded it would make sense to combine some and move options (Jamestown/Nottingham/discovery/tuckahoe) but the communities resist so really, I think it’s safe to say people just don’t like change. Which is fine, but I wish they would recognize the entitlement in thinking they should have a peaceful SFH enclave 2 stoplights from work. And realistically, if you sprinkle duplexes among SFH you end up with less of these supposed parking/overcrowding/water issues than if you jam them in 2 blocks of S Arlington…

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Anonymous wrote:I think MMH is going to tear up the community in Arlington. County may have gotten their way but it’s not a good look when there is so much infighting within the community.

Location will keep Arlington desirable to an extent but there will a a lot of bad blood due to MMH. I live one town over in McLean, this is just my reading, of course I could be wrong . We pass through N Arlington many times on our way to restaurants and such and I see plenty of opposition to MMH via yard signs. I guess we shall see how this shakes out.

You don't have to go to Arlington, Missing Middle is coming to McLean. The NoVA YIMBYs have been organizing in Fairfax County, and the large lots in McLean are well within their sights. The same chaotic mess that happened in Arlington is headed for Fairfax County and Alexandria City.

McLean won’t go down without a fight, a lot of us are Democrats but no bleeding heart liberals. Frankly, at local level it’s time to consider republican candidates.

McLean has very little influence in county government. It’s two zip codes in a county with over a million and the only local officials from McLean likely to be elected this fall are two Democrats - Jimmy Bierman and Rip Sullivan. Bierman would sell out McLean overnight if it would get the Washington Post to call him “progressive,” and Sullivan is in the state legislature and has no say over local zoning.

Not April Fools but today is the date for the LA mansion tax to be in effect. Can FX, MoCo, ARL enact such transfer taxes? That's local in LA ? NYC has the mansion tax floor at 1m-that's on sale price not net to seller https://www.silive.com/news/2023/03/what-is-the-mansion-tax-and-why-do-you-need-to-know-about-it-when-buying-a-nyc-home.html

https://finance.lacity.org/faq/real-property-transfer-tax-and-measure-ula-faq#:~:text=The%20ULA%20Tax%20rates%20of,S2_ord_187692_1%2D1%2D23.pdf

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Anonymous wrote:The deleted comments are proof that racists are alive and well in Arlington - not surprising that this couple had a bad experience.

Curious what you saw, but a Pakistani-American is hardly novel in N Arlington. If anyone had a stereotype, they would assume he was a doctor!

I guess the wife is PR, which have different stereotypes but I really am skeptical they received any racist baiting.

Now a notice of demolition, and cagey answers as to what they are building in its place — that will surely get neighbors riled up and unfriendly.

The owner is subdividing at least, and wants to deflect the anger by claiming racism.

Similarly, racist comments are hardly novel in N Arlington.

I'm not surprised at all that this couple received negative comments - before the demo was posted.

Interesting. Do you live in Donaldson Run? Because I did and I know quite a few mixed marriage couples that live there and are quite happy. I also think that MMH is very unpopular in N Arlington so I have no doubt that people were asking questions and are pleased with their neighborhood being testing ground for two lots of MMH. But hey it’s a winning strategy pull the race card to shut everybody up.

"I have friends who live in Donaldson Run and are happy. This shows that nobody ever says anything racist to anybody there."

The fact that they feel welcome is more proof than you have that it’s racist so… please feel free to provide proof that racist incidents are happening in North Arlington.

DP.

1. Read the article.
2. Neighbors in a nearby neighborhood have assumed I’m the nanny.

You have me convinced, North Arlington is filled with racists!

NP - If you are white, you really can’t comment. I live in the area, I can pass, Spouse cannot. Micro aggressions are a daily thing. Also, have 2 friends who live in DR neighborhood, one white, one S Asian. South Asian friend and I have commiserated on the casual racism and entitlement - white friend regularly expresses disbelief. That said, completely believe couple’s story bc I’m guessing 90% of these neighbors are 65+ white folk who bought their homes in the 80’s & 90s and want to keep the “good ol days”, not big law. Have a friend who bought a huge house and the old people next door keep trespassing to see what they are doing and tell them what they can and cannot do. Moral of the story seems to be old white arlingtonians are the problem!

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

You are sure making a lot of assumptions about this couple. Why do you assume it's the husband who is wealthy? Why do you assume it's just from daycare?

No one assumes the $ are solely from daycare profits. The main point of reviewing what can be built on the 1.17 acre lot is the fact that the ARL persons in charge had no common sense on lot size and what can be built by right zoning. From number of units to access, parking, vehicle count.

PP was definitely making assumptions about who was wealthy and why.

They are presumably both attorneys given that they met in law school. There are a billion wealthy attorneys in Arlington. Interesting that the PP is questioning how this particular couple gained their wealth.

Zoning is a different topic than the comments above.

I'm not surprised two rich attorneys marketed their palatial development as some anti-racist production. Gets them good press and ensures neighbors and the county are pre-emptively racist in case they dare to complain.

Neighbors can complain all they want. The couple can do many things here by right.

Right but if your new townhouse development is protested vehemently by the neighbors, future buyers will see that press and be hesitant to buy

Calling neighbors racist is probably dicey too, but the stink of buying one of the hated townhomes will depress the value.

The only thing that will depress the value in that neighborhood is being zoned to the dicey Taylor Elementary School.

What’s dicey about Taylor??

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Anonymous wrote:Arlington is a weird, sad place.

Yup, the older I get, the more I’m glad to have moved far away, it looks bad from all directions.

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I’m also a POC in this neighborhood. I can absolutely believe the nanny thing. However, I don’t believe someone confused him for a worker for a second. He’s obviously planning on redeveloping the lot to which I say have at it (I am perhaps in the minority that thinks the old house is ugly) but there’s no need to lie to justify what you are doing.

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The new owners want to be “welcomed into the neighborhood” but keep talking to the news and calling the neighbors racist. The Fairfax article said they were considering MMh because everyone had been so mean. Here is their latest statement.

Quote from ArlNow: “They don’t believe two minorities can buy a lot for $2.5 million and build another single family house,” Maldonado said. “They believe we’re going to flip it and build a bunch of condos.” If the couple build anything it will be a new single-family home, they say, but after the last month they are not sure if neighbors want them there.”

https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/03/broyhill-mansion-demolition-kicks-off-with-owners-fending-off-vigilante-neighborhood-preservationists/

I’m not sure what they hope to accomplish by their media campaign?

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

It's wonderful how it's now "virtue signaling" to enable profitable real estate development on property you own.

^^^I am also super impressed that nobody in Arlington ever makes racist assumptions about a person based on their appearance. What an amazing place!

Arlington is chock o barrel full of lawyers -- I guarantee no one makes racist comments to people's faces.

If anything, they may have been asked "are you the new owners" -- which is a pretty natural question, but could be twisted.

As if that's so much better???
How would you like it if the busy bodies with too much time on their hands called you, your husband, or your children a racist slur of whatever ethnicity you are?

I guess that would be OK since everyone is doing it behind your back, huh?

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Anonymous wrote:The new owners want to be “welcomed into the neighborhood” but keep talking to the news and calling the neighbors racist. The Fairfax article said they were considering MMh because everyone had been so mean. Here is their latest statement.

Quote from ArlNow: “They don’t believe two minorities can buy a lot for $2.5 million and build another single family house,” Maldonado said. “They believe we’re going to flip it and build a bunch of condos.” If the couple build anything it will be a new single-family home, they say, but after the last month they are not sure if neighbors want them there.”

https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/03/broyhill-mansion-demolition-kicks-off-with-owners-fending-off-vigilante-neighborhood-preservationists/

I’m not sure what they hope to accomplish by their media campaign?

Maybe they are hoping people won’t be so racist in the future.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

What kinds of entrepreneurship are acceptable to liberals?

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

It's wonderful how it's now "virtue signaling" to enable profitable real estate development on property you own.

^^^I am also super impressed that nobody in Arlington ever makes racist assumptions about a person based on their appearance. What an amazing place!

Arlington is chock o barrel full of lawyers -- I guarantee no one makes racist comments to people's faces.

If anything, they may have been asked "are you the new owners" -- which is a pretty natural question, but could be twisted.

As if that's so much better???
How would you like it if the busy bodies with too much time on their hands called you, your husband, or your children a racist slur of whatever ethnicity you are?

I guess that would be OK since everyone is doing it behind your back, huh?

My point is his story is incredulous.

I’m sure my neighbors and coworkers talk dirt about me — that’s what neighbors are for.

His whole story is ridiculous.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

What kinds of entrepreneurship are acceptable to liberals?

Non-exploitative of labor? If he made $$$$ in a local daycare, he was cutting corners in childcare and underpaying workers. It’s a famously low margin business done usually as a labor of love. That’s why so many are nonprofits.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

What kinds of entrepreneurship are acceptable to liberals?

Non-exploitative of labor? If he made $$$$ in a local daycare, he was cutting corners in childcare and underpaying workers. It’s a famously low margin business done usually as a labor of love. That’s why so many are nonprofits.

Dying to know which kinds of businesses meet that criteria.

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Anonymous wrote:It's wonderful how rich people can buy a large plot, do what they want with it, then virtue signal on social media.

This dude is my new favorite rabbit hole.

First off, $4m house from running a daycare? is that typical? i thought daycare workers were paid so little because there is so little money after running the business?

Second, he is now out of that gig and an "entrepreneur" -- with no mention of his new business, though I suspect it's "real estate mogul wannabe".

Finally, let's say people did get sus about his families designs for such a huge property -- does anyone know if they have moved in or started renovation or anything, or if they just bought it waiting for MM to be passed? No one would ever assume someone is a worker on a property unless they climbed out of a landscaping truck with a landscaping polo on -- its 2023 and Arlington is way to woke for that. But how did the newspaper even find these owners to get these racy quotes?? Are they going around complaining about their new neighbors to the newspapers? How did they even get interviewed for the story?

Many people around here are loaded. Not sure why you're questioning the finances of this particular couple. Who met each other in law school.

The author of the article seems to be following missing middle & other local real estate news. He has written about this property *and* local racism before so not surprising that he's following up on it.
https://www.fcnp.com/author/charlie-clark/

Sure maybe he’s wealthy, but from daycare — which famously underpay their workers.

What kinds of entrepreneurship are acceptable to liberals?

Non-exploitative of labor? If he made $$$$ in a local daycare, he was cutting corners in childcare and underpaying workers. It’s a famously low margin business done usually as a labor of love. That’s why so many are nonprofits.

I thought he owned a Montessori school? Montessori is not daycare and is $$$. I paid for one, and the owner was definitely raking it in.

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Anonymous wrote:The new owners want to be “welcomed into the neighborhood” but keep talking to the news and calling the neighbors racist. The Fairfax article said they were considering MMh because everyone had been so mean. Here is their latest statement.

Quote from ArlNow: “They don’t believe two minorities can buy a lot for $2.5 million and build another single family house,” Maldonado said. “They believe we’re going to flip it and build a bunch of condos.” If the couple build anything it will be a new single-family home, they say, but after the last month they are not sure if neighbors want them there.”

https://www.arlnow.com/2023/04/03/broyhill-mansion-demolition-kicks-off-with-owners-fending-off-vigilante-neighborhood-preservationists/

I’m not sure what they hope to accomplish by their media campaign?

Definitely a weird story on all fronts. Lots of details seem missing though.