Has Harry Completely Lost his mind?

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Anonymous wrote:People who speak the truth are not mentally ill.

Harry has a history of trauma and abuse. Let’s look at the abusers.

If only someone would write a serious book delving into this important topic that was well thought out and provided real insight. If only.

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Anonymous wrote:From my casual observing, it seems he has been thrown under the bus his entire life by his family, mainly because he wasn't the heir and Charles/William were. And now that he's out, he is effing tired of it.

Concentrate more the way the royal family operates with the press than anything else. It's really toxic and he's calling it out since he's been the victim.

He's a social disruptor. Never an easy path to blaze. But honestly, so was his mother.

That was my first thought watching the interview, his mother also took to tv interviews to speak truth to power. Now that the Queen is dead, is there truly people who admire anyone in the immediate line of succession? I can’t imagine why.

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like our family squabbles, with the main difference being no one cares about us!

And the vast wealth.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't think he's lost his mind. I think he's just broken free from a jeweled prison. The royal family thought Meghan would give up everything to be one of them and didn't have the perspective that anyone might find their actions unhealthy. And I think having his wife be subjected to the same things that his mother was, and which ultimately caused her death, is very triggering for Harry. The royal family thinks it's all NBD but Harry views it as life or death. And after what happened to his mother, who is to argue with him? I actually respect him a lot for giving it all up for a semblance of a normal life. And I'm glad they're controlling their own narrative rather than letting the British press use misogyny and racism to turn Meghan into a Disney villain.

Again more reason they should have taken their time, but no they had to “hit the ground running”.

DP. Take their time on what? They acted when they felt they had to. It may not have been on your timeline but it's not your life. It's theirs and their choice.

Because she kept saying she had no idea what being Royal would be like so why doesn’t she take any responsibility for rushing?

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Anonymous wrote:I find it weird to see it play out so publicly, but I do wind up in the camp of: that family is incredibly dysfunctional/toxic, and he sounds like someone grappling with those issues in a relatively healthy way.

I'm from a very dysfunctional family that does not claim to be anointed by god as rulers of an empire, and even despite that difference, I recognize the signs of dysfunction. The difficulties of direct communication of basic needs like affection, the use of a lot of passive-aggressive means of communication or the expectation for family members to just know what certain members (always the people at the top of the family hierarchy, which in the royals is easy to figure out) want or need and give it to them without complaint. There are golden child, scapegoat, and black sheep dynamics. You see a lot of enmeshment with family, especially around decisions like who you will marry and how and when you will have kids, and how they will be raised.

Yes, a lot of this is viewed as a normal part of being in the royal family. Does not make it less dysfunctional! Actually makes it worse because it's a self-reinforcing system that can't be change for argued against. In my own dysfunctional family, things actually are better for some of the the more recent generations because we have found ways to set boundaries and make other choices. It does result in some amount of estrangement (not total estrangement, but strained relationships with certain family members), but it is better for our children and has enabled us to make healthier choices for ourselves. In the royal family, setting those boundaries and making healthier choices gets second guessed not just by the family itself (which includes the monarch of the country you belong to) but also by Parliament and the press. That's insane!

He does not sound crazy to me. I do think having this play out in public may be something he later regrets. I well understand the desire to actually finally achieve clarity on these issues because I know what it's like to deal with gaslighting and passive aggressive communication your entire life and just want it to end. But the public declarations will likely escalate tensions and can't be taken back. Plus they drag in lots of strangers and that can confuse things.

But the actual things he's talking about and saying? Don't sound crazy to me. It sounds healthy. It sounds like he's been brainwashed by dysfunction most of his life and only recently discovered, through is family of choice, what functional, healthy relationships can look like. It takes time to acclimate.

Harry and Megan need money, even if just for security. They have no marketable skills other than her acting. Either they sell all the dirt they have for as much as they can get or the go bust.

Harry has few marketable skills. Megan has a bunch of marketable skills, even beyond acting. She's a decent spokeswoman, she has a long history of charitable advocacy, she has experience building an online presence and a brand. These are "normal" skills but they are actually pretty helpful for their current situation. Megan is reasonably prepared for figuring out how to make money from their current situation; Harry is not. I sense that she feels this is a manageable situation not that different from where she was at before marrying him, but with more complications, but that he has absolutely no idea how to handle because he's lived in a weird bubble his entire life.

None of those pay the bills unless you're suggesting that they take a large cut of money they raise.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From my casual observing, it seems he has been thrown under the bus his entire life by his family, mainly because he wasn't the heir and Charles/William were. And now that he's out, he is effing tired of it.

Concentrate more the way the royal family operates with the press than anything else. It's really toxic and he's calling it out since he's been the victim.

He's a social disruptor. Never an easy path to blaze. But honestly, so was his mother.

That was my first thought watching the interview, his mother also took to tv interviews to speak truth to power. Now that the Queen is dead, is there truly people who admire anyone in the immediate line of succession? I can’t imagine why.

But then why complain their kids aren’t getting Prince and Princess of this terrible institution?

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Anonymous wrote:I feel for Harry. Would you want to bow to your older brother and beg for whatever they feel like giving you? The system has been causing problems for generations - look at Margaret, and Charles’ siblings. They are all stuck in the system, serving “the Crown”, but have no real ability to grow as individuals and pursue their own independent, adult lives. Despite the aura of privilege, I don’t envy them at all.

Many people have dysfunctional relationships or families. One can always opt to “grow” as an individual.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

+1

I haven't read his book, but from other reports he seems stuck on being the spare. I recall a clip of him at an event soon after they left the UK. Early on in his speech he said it's as if people think "oh.. yes... that's Diana's other son." It's not like he was shipped off to some remote place and never mentioned. I think, too, that there is a lot there regarding his mother's death.

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I think he’s decided he will be a Royal leach as a career, it’s happened before see Duke of Windsor.

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Anonymous wrote:From my casual observing, it seems he has been thrown under the bus his entire life by his family, mainly because he wasn't the heir and Charles/William were. And now that he's out, he is effing tired of it.

Concentrate more the way the royal family operates with the press than anything else. It's really toxic and he's calling it out since he's been the victim.

He's a social disruptor. Never an easy path to blaze. But honestly, so was his mother.

On the contrary. I think the royal family and their staff have had to work overtime to protect Harry from himself and the media. Now he doesn’t have those protections and if you look at what he and Megan have been saying on the whole for the past few years it is very contradictory, and there’s a little evidence for what they are saying, and there is a little to no self reflection and accountability and a ton of blame.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m team Harry. The royal family is insufferable. Good for Harry and Megan for taking a bad situation and finding some good. It’s about time the truth is being revealed.

I often come back to this fact:

Before marrying into the royal family, Megan was a successful actress who did tons of charity work in her spare time (like for years and years, it was not something she started doing to attract Harry, it's a genuine passion), she'd started a side business, she had lots of friends. Like if you look at her pre-Harry life, it looks pretty darn functional. Yes, she got married and divorced. But she didn't have kids and that divorce was pretty low drama. She had family strife (I can relate to that) but she seemed to be handling it in healthy ways -- she has a very good relationship with her mom and one of her half sisters, and she was dealing with it well enough to have an otherwise healthy and productive life.

But if you look at Harry's life pre-Megan, you see a TON of red flags and dysfunction. Obviously everything with his parents' marriage and divorce, plus his mom's death and everything that followed. Lots of signs of dysfunction in his relationship with Harry. No truly serious relationships but a couple on again off again things that didn't go anywhere. He doesn't have a healthy, functional relationship with any of his parent figures -- his mom is dead, his dad is extremely repressed and distant (and busy), his grandmother was the queen and not the most nurturing person in the world, his grandfather even less so. It doesn't appear he had or was allowed close relationships with the Spencers. He was not independent at all, and the one period of his life where he was somewhat independent (his military service) involved fighting in a war, which is a traumatic event that can really screw a person up. He has a lot of friends but it's unclear how many are close, true friends -- that world is the sort of predictable set of pre-ordained "friends" that you grow up with and are expected to socialize among and marry into. That's very different that developing a series of friendships with classmates and colleagues and roommates and neighbors over the course of a normal life, as Meghan has.

Megan has led a fairly normal and functional life until meeting Harry and I see most of her decisions since then as an effort to continue to do so despite obstacles posed by his position and family. Megan and their kids are the first normal/healthy relationships Harry has had in his entire life. He is flailing a bit but that's honestly not surprising.

The most questionable life choice Meghan has ever made was marrying Harry -- she could have stayed single, had kids on her own, or maybe found someone else to marry (though tricky due to her age and her job/lifestyle). The best life choice Harry has ever made is marrying Meghan and getting some distance from his messed up family.

Meghan was actively trolling the UK for a high profile love connection. She didn’t want normal she wanted more.

What other high profile men in the UK did she date? I don't buy this, sorry. I don't get why people want to turn Megan into some kind of scheming manipulator. I'm not like some huge MM fan but she seems to genuinely have just fallen for a guy who has a messed up family and not understood the extent to which s messed up family would impact her life before getting in deep. Likely her age played a role, as if you have a serious relationship in your late 30s, it's much harder to pull back and say "wait, this is not what I expected" before it's too late. Now they have kids together and she has to see it through. And she does seem to genuinely love him.

I bet some part of her wonders if maybe she should have been more cautious about getting involved with someone this high profile in such a weird position back when it all started. But it's too late now.

I just find it hard to believe that she was looking for this situation. It actually kind of sucks for her -- she quit her job and it would be hard to go back to her old career, changed her entire life, and then his family was INSANE and he was deeply unhappy. She seems to be doing the best she can with a bad situation, honestly.

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Anonymous wrote:He sounds like someone who is married to a narcissist. Ask me how i Know.

+1,000

And one stoking the fire. Not healthy dynamic.

I think M is stoking the fire too.
But, Harry does come across as completely reasonable, well spoken, sincere as other PP’s said. He is completely aware of the charges that Meghan has pushed these endeavors on him, and adamantly refutes them.

He’s a hard nut to crack! I REALLY admire him, but also agree with OP: what the F is he thinking!!!
Why not just enjoy your new life in America?

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Anonymous wrote:How is what he's doing any different than any other person detailing the dysfunction of their upbringing and family? Tara Westover/Educated? Christina Crawford/Mommy Dearest? Jenny McCurdy/I'm Glad my Mom Died? Jessica Simpson/Open Book? Jeannette Walls/The Glass Castle? There's a sh1tload of books by the children of famous people detailing how difficult their childhoods were because of the dysfunction of their parents. The only thing different in this case is that this book details the dysfunction of the British Royal Family.

I'm no Megan/Harry stan but I've battled through the legacy of my own family dysfunction and can empathize with what he's going through. Had The Firm not used him/Megan as scapegoats, had they not leaked/planted negative stories about them, had they actually listened and behaved as a family should, I have no doubt Harry wouldn't have pushed back like he has.

The person shedding light on dysfunction is usually the one most reviled for it.

https://electricliterature.com/9-tell-all-memoirs-by-the-children-of-celebrities/

All these names are legitimate celebrities based on talent that got them fame. Harry has the advantage of his dad will be one of the most famous people on the planet his entire life so Harry will always be relevant and can profit off that relevancy forever.

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

+1

I haven't read his book, but from other reports he seems stuck on being the spare. I recall a clip of him at an event soon after they left the UK. Early on in his speech he said it's as if people think "oh.. yes... that's Diana's other son." It's not like he was shipped off to some remote place and never mentioned. I think, too, that there is a lot there regarding his mother's death.

He was always one of the most popular members of the royal family up until 2019 or 2020. He and many others cheering him now are forgetting this fact.

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

So I absolutely believe this could happen. But it would be so much more credible and cutting of he gave examples. Like what bad stories about them was she selling to tej press, I'm order to barter good coverage for herself?

What specifically about William etc was the Form trying to smother by offering unsavory coverage of Meghan?

It seems plausible but it's vague and if he's going this far, then why not be specific?