Has Harry Completely Lost his mind?

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

Wow. Really? What a B**CH. See, this is why my position continues to be, "Not necessarily a fan of Meghan and Harry, but I feel like the actual points they make about the royal family are valid."

I also puke at the idea of Camilla being called Queen now. Evil predator.

I respect your opinion. You don't have to be a fan of Meghan and Harry to realize Harry is bringing up some valid observations/good points about his dysfunctional family life. Don't dismiss him and say he's crazy/lying. I am not seeing that he is. One may not be a fan of airing this laundry in public but not to believe him?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m team Harry. The royal family is insufferable. Good for Harry and Megan for taking a bad situation and finding some good. It’s about time the truth is being revealed.

I often come back to this fact:

Before marrying into the royal family, Megan was a successful actress who did tons of charity work in her spare time (like for years and years, it was not something she started doing to attract Harry, it's a genuine passion), she'd started a side business, she had lots of friends. Like if you look at her pre-Harry life, it looks pretty darn functional. Yes, she got married and divorced. But she didn't have kids and that divorce was pretty low drama. She had family strife (I can relate to that) but she seemed to be handling it in healthy ways -- she has a very good relationship with her mom and one of her half sisters, and she was dealing with it well enough to have an otherwise healthy and productive life.

But if you look at Harry's life pre-Megan, you see a TON of red flags and dysfunction. Obviously everything with his parents' marriage and divorce, plus his mom's death and everything that followed. Lots of signs of dysfunction in his relationship with Harry. No truly serious relationships but a couple on again off again things that didn't go anywhere. He doesn't have a healthy, functional relationship with any of his parent figures -- his mom is dead, his dad is extremely repressed and distant (and busy), his grandmother was the queen and not the most nurturing person in the world, his grandfather even less so. It doesn't appear he had or was allowed close relationships with the Spencers. He was not independent at all, and the one period of his life where he was somewhat independent (his military service) involved fighting in a war, which is a traumatic event that can really screw a person up. He has a lot of friends but it's unclear how many are close, true friends -- that world is the sort of predictable set of pre-ordained "friends" that you grow up with and are expected to socialize among and marry into. That's very different that developing a series of friendships with classmates and colleagues and roommates and neighbors over the course of a normal life, as Meghan has.

Megan has led a fairly normal and functional life until meeting Harry and I see most of her decisions since then as an effort to continue to do so despite obstacles posed by his position and family. Megan and their kids are the first normal/healthy relationships Harry has had in his entire life. He is flailing a bit but that's honestly not surprising.

The most questionable life choice Meghan has ever made was marrying Harry -- she could have stayed single, had kids on her own, or maybe found someone else to marry (though tricky due to her age and her job/lifestyle). The best life choice Harry has ever made is marrying Meghan and getting some distance from his messed up family.

All of this is "fact"?

Her parents are divorced and so are his. But somehow only his family divorce was dysfunctional?

He had friends and she had friends. But hers are real and his are shallow connections?

His prior life was more unusual than hers for sure - he was in the BRF. But the rest of this is a lot of projection.

The "fact" is that Megan had a healthy, functional life before meeting Harry, and Harry appears to have had an unhappy, dysfunctional life. I mean, listen to him -- he's telling us that he's been miserable pretty much his entire life.

Megan's parents are divorced but she appears to have dealt with it and also have figured out how to move on from that dysfunction. Harry's parents are divorced in one of the most famous divorces of the 20th century, his mother subsequently died in a tragic accident, and it's pretty clear from his book and these interviews that he and his family have never addressed the trauma and dysfunction at the heart of these events in the last 30 years.

Megan has maintained her friendships with her pre-Harry friends through her courtship and marriage, and even through the last few crazy years. Her closest friends (like Abigail Spencer and other actor/entertainer friends that she met during or pre-Suits) are still her closest friends. Harry's closest "friend" was his brother and they are estranged. He was at some point reasonably close with a few cousins or relatives, but the family estrangement is clearly making those relationships strained. And to my knowledge he does not have a single friend from his school days or military service with whom he still spends time or stays in touch. He moved to another country and it appears his wife and kids are his whole life. That speaks to a much less healthy life before they met.

You say "well he was BRF and she wasn't" like this is a minor difference. This is THE difference -- he is from a super dysfunctional family and has never had a chance to fix it or move beyond that dysfunction, whereas Megan has some dysfunction in her history but appears to have figure out how to deal with it and build a good life for herself outside of it. It's a huge difference. Megan is the source of function and stability within their relationship. Harry appears to have very little emotional maturity or ability to create that sense of security. He is trying to learn now. Megan figured this stuff out back in her 20s.

Did Meghan have everything figured out before or after her divorce? I'm struggling to see how functional and normal her life has been.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a train crash. Quite pathetic how he is reducing himself to such a spectacle. It’s clear that there is no one close to him who truly cares for his well being.

This is the world we live in, like my kids now want to just be on YouTube instead of actually having real careers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

Wow. Really? What a B**CH. See, this is why my position continues to be, "Not necessarily a fan of Meghan and Harry, but I feel like the actual points they make about the royal family are valid."

I also puke at the idea of Camilla being called Queen now. Evil predator.

OK, but there’s no evidence of this. They keep saying this, but what is the evidence. Nobody’s even sure what he’s talking about. He has always been much more popular than she has been until he started to self destruct recently.

Even Chelsea Davy said he has always been very paranoid.

[Anonymous]

Love how this starts with "I don't care about the royals, but..."

Come on. The Royal family lives in the world's head rent free- their weddings, the coverage, etc. Hardly anyone They can't tell about another European or another country's royal, but they know who every British royal is. It is an industry.

Everyone can also talk about every scandal they've had from the abdication, to Margaret's heartache, not being allowed to marry her choice, every single one of the royal's divorce, how Diana was sacrificed at the altar, a million exposes about her. But when it's pointed out WHEN ITS HAPPENING, apparently it's unseemly. I guess this would be fine when it's 20 years from now?

Tell it like it is. Basically those tabloids are cooperating with the Royal family. We weren't sure, but yes

Also, everything is we need to know is with Kate. After good naturedly chiding Kate that she had "baby brain" ( which is an actually positive way we acknowledge there's nothing wrong with us, just a fun thing to say when we can't remember this or that ...) she took offense and told Meghan " You aren't close enough to me to talk about my hormones." Really?

There it is. All of this is on Kate, and I mean all of it- she never liked Meghan, and yeah, probably Camilla. Remember Camilla? Why are people shocked about Camilla? Come on.

[Anonymous]

The idea of Royals in this age is deranged.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Sounds like our family squabbles, with the main difference being no one cares about us!

And you likely don’t have billions of dollars and a famous name to fall back upon.

True, but I live a modest lifestyle and don't require millions.

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I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

Wow. Really? What a B**CH. See, this is why my position continues to be, "Not necessarily a fan of Meghan and Harry, but I feel like the actual points they make about the royal family are valid."

I also puke at the idea of Camilla being called Queen now. Evil predator.

I respect your opinion. You don't have to be a fan of Meghan and Harry to realize Harry is bringing up some valid observations/good points about his dysfunctional family life. Don't dismiss him and say he's crazy/lying. I am not seeing that he is. One may not be a fan of airing this laundry in public but not to believe him?

People can dismiss him and point out the incongruence of his statements. They can also decide he's not believable. You can choose to remain blind because of your biases.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

Wow. Really? What a B**CH. See, this is why my position continues to be, "Not necessarily a fan of Meghan and Harry, but I feel like the actual points they make about the royal family are valid."

I also puke at the idea of Camilla being called Queen now. Evil predator.

I respect your opinion. You don't have to be a fan of Meghan and Harry to realize Harry is bringing up some valid observations/good points about his dysfunctional family life. Don't dismiss him and say he's crazy/lying. I am not seeing that he is. One may not be a fan of airing this laundry in public but not to believe him?

People can dismiss him and point out the incongruence of his statements. They can also decide he's not believable. You can choose to remain blind because of your biases.

Oh, he's believable. There's no issue there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Love how this starts with "I don't care about the royals, but..."

Come on. The Royal family lives in the world's head rent free- their weddings, the coverage, etc. Hardly anyone They can't tell about another European or another country's royal, but they know who every British royal is. It is an industry.

Everyone can also talk about every scandal they've had from the abdication, to Margaret's heartache, not being allowed to marry her choice, every single one of the royal's divorce, how Diana was sacrificed at the altar, a million exposes about her. But when it's pointed out WHEN ITS HAPPENING, apparently it's unseemly. I guess this would be fine when it's 20 years from now?

Tell it like it is. Basically those tabloids are cooperating with the Royal family. We weren't sure, but yes

Also, everything is we need to know is with Kate. After good naturedly chiding Kate that she had "baby brain" ( which is an actually positive way we acknowledge there's nothing wrong with us, just a fun thing to say when we can't remember this or that ...) she took offense and told Meghan " You aren't close enough to me to talk about my hormones." Really?

There it is. All of this is on Kate, and I mean all of it- she never liked Meghan, and yeah, probably Camilla. Remember Camilla? Why are people shocked about Camilla? Come on.

Is Meghan an ableist??

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

Wow. Really? What a B**CH. See, this is why my position continues to be, "Not necessarily a fan of Meghan and Harry, but I feel like the actual points they make about the royal family are valid."

I also puke at the idea of Camilla being called Queen now. Evil predator.

I respect your opinion. You don't have to be a fan of Meghan and Harry to realize Harry is bringing up some valid observations/good points about his dysfunctional family life. Don't dismiss him and say he's crazy/lying. I am not seeing that he is. One may not be a fan of airing this laundry in public but not to believe him?

People can dismiss him and point out the incongruence of his statements. They can also decide he's not believable. You can choose to remain blind because of your biases.

Oh, he's believable. There's no issue there.

To you, to the masses, no.

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Anonymous wrote:He's making a living on complaining. It's his chosen profession. He's killing it.

He has to make money somehow. Grandma died with a billion dollar estate and it's all going to a single grandkid.

And his family was getting death threats and the royal family wasn’t willing to pay for security for his kids. Wtf. So he’s banking enough now to cover that.

Wouldn’t his Taliban disclosures increase his security risk (and that of others)?

You would think so. And it's interesting that H is trying to paint W as a violent bully when he's the one dispassionately talking about killing 25 people who were merely chess pieces. He's a sociopath.

Yeah, seriously, WTF was that all about? Two of my ex-boyfriends were military (one was special forces, the other a regular army grunt) and no matter how close we got, they NEVER gave me their kill count. In fact, I never asked. I knew not to ask, because that's not a joke and it's a private matter between the soldier and his soul. If my ex-boyfriends didn't tell me their kill count, how on EARTH can Prince Harry tell the whole world his?

[Anonymous]

Let’s not forget the actual HR reports about her treatment of employees.