Has Harry Completely Lost his mind?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:From my casual observing, it seems he has been thrown under the bus his entire life by his family, mainly because he wasn't the heir and Charles/William were. And now that he's out, he is effing tired of it.

Concentrate more the way the royal family operates with the press than anything else. It's really toxic and he's calling it out since he's been the victim.

He's a social disruptor. Never an easy path to blaze. But honestly, so was his mother.

How was he thrown under the bus? That's the part I don't understand. It seems like everyone bent over backwards to cater to him. If he had married one of his old girlfriends, he would not have even had much of a role to play in the RF. I think he married Megan to be relevant.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

tl,dr. Nobody has time for your novels. If you have a point, make it succinctly and on topic.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

Is he confronting them directly though?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

if this is true....

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From my casual observing, it seems he has been thrown under the bus his entire life by his family, mainly because he wasn't the heir and Charles/William were. And now that he's out, he is effing tired of it.

Concentrate more the way the royal family operates with the press than anything else. It's really toxic and he's calling it out since he's been the victim.

He's a social disruptor. Never an easy path to blaze. But honestly, so was his mother.

How was he thrown under the bus? That's the part I don't understand. It seems like everyone bent over backwards to cater to him. If he had married one of his old girlfriends, he would not have even had much of a role to play in the RF. I think he married Megan to be relevant.

Megan was the one who opened his eyes to relevancy. Before he was happy hanging out in a tent you know like people who know they have access to billions for life. Last time he will ever be in a tent.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

Is he confronting them directly though?

I think he did. So ok take it a little further. After taking the high road and confronting them directly they continue to spread those rumors. Vicious rumors that have a real effect on your life. Are you the bad guy when you start going to the acquaintances and telling your side? Even if that means saying bad things about these friends?

[Anonymous]

I used to be a big fan of Harry. He was my favorite royal but the tell-all's, exclusive interviews, Netflix, books, etc. have really sunk him. TBH, I'm sure it was Megan's push. It's such a shame. She really did him in.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

Is he confronting them directly though?

I think he did. So ok take it a little further. After taking the high road and confronting them directly they continue to spread those rumors. Vicious rumors that have a real effect on your life. Are you the bad guy when you start going to the acquaintances and telling your side? Even if that means saying bad things about these friends?

You’re skipping over the part where they never took the high road!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

I agree with this, and the TL;DR on this is:

If your family/community has been using unverified gossip to badmouth you for years, it is not hypocritical to instead go on the record with your version of events in order to force them to stop hiding behind the gossip and innuendo.

I don't think it will work, but it's not hypocritical.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I honestly think he is pretty severely mentally ill. It's so clear that he has not at all healed from his mother's death and carries around a lot of baggage about the rest of his family.

This is my take, too. He clearly didn’t learn the rule of never complain, never explain.

NP. Did you actually watch the segment where he says that the other members of the Royal Family don't actually follow this rule? They have agreements with the press to squash story A if they are given details about story B. It sounds like a hideous game. And I don't doubt it, because actual details about how the press was weaponized with Charles and Diana has come to light.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

if this is true....

Read anything about Camilla, read the palace papers, she’s an opportunist and not a good person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If you actually watch the 60 Minutes segment, he comes across as totally reasonable, sincere and mentally healthy.

That might be novel for the Royal Family, but that does not make them functional.

I think exposure to someone with a different culture and upbringing opened his eyes, as did therapy. What his family makes of his progress (as a human) in another story.

(To those who are not following: he says he went public because after his private attempts to hash things out with them, the "firm" would always leak their side to the press. So, he figures he will use this mechanism to get out his version. Even to communicate with his family members. It could backfire, but he explained himself well.)

+1. If you watch the 60 minutes interview, he comes across as quite thoughtful and articulate-nothing he says sounds untrue. And even if you want to think he’s a jerk for revealing all these private details about his family, his explanation that at least he’s doing it out in the open while his royal relatives just do it in the shadows via leaks of “unnamed sources” is pretty compelling

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Camilla leaking information about private conversations with a teenage Harry is HORRIBLE. How can you not see that as abusive? He was grieving, and this woman was a huge source of pain, and then she's selling stories about him to boost her own image?!!

You all are focusing on the wrong things here.

if this is true....

Read anything about Camilla, read the palace papers, she’s an opportunist and not a good person.

The palace papers made me lose any respect for Prince Charles. I had always dislikes Camilla. She is not a good person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think one thing that is interesting is how people hate Harry for 'selling out his family' when he should not be airing their dirty laundry. But if you listen to what he's actually saying, its that THEY keep airing the laundry and specifically leaking news stories meant to fan the flames of hatred towards them.

So it seems hypocritical to hate him for doing it when his whole point is that they are doing it too, just much more sneakily.

It seems hypocritical for lauding him for doing the exact same thing he says he hates. If he's going to point fingers at least be honest. Who made the comment about what the baby might look like? Why is he distancing himself from that statement now? Name names, or quit talking about the truth and getting his side out.

Take the details out of it. You are a young woman. You had a group of friends. You had a falling out with one of them because lets say (attributing relatively equal blame to the crime) she dated your boyfriend before you did and they had a bad breakup because she cheated on him but there was no cheating with you and the guy and a healthy amount of time before you started dating and its all OK but you know you drift apart because there are bad feelings. No one is really the BAD guy here but its complicated. And you've all been friends since childhood so there is a lot of underlying history good and bad there too.

So you drift and the friend group starts subtly dropping hints about how you stole her boyfriend and just generally spreading bad rumors about you. And you fight back but say you just want to live in peace. But they continue to talk badly about you but not overtly, just enough so that a lot of your mutual acquaintances drift away. Are you a hypocrite for confronting them directly? I think not.

Is he confronting them directly though?

I think he did. So ok take it a little further. After taking the high road and confronting them directly they continue to spread those rumors. Vicious rumors that have a real effect on your life. Are you the bad guy when you start going to the acquaintances and telling your side? Even if that means saying bad things about these friends?

You’re skipping over the part where they never took the high road!

We never would know about that part. I mean clearly a lot happened behind closed doors. We have no idea really what they did BEFORE going nuclear.