Two children killed by family pet

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Anonymous wrote:What a horrible tragedy for this family; I cannot imagine the emotional pain they’re in or the physical pain the mother is in (she was critically injured trying to protect her children from being mauled by the family dogs; since upgraded to serious condition). A two year old and a five month old are dead. https://wreg.com/news/local/children-dead-mother-injured-after-dog-attack-scso/amp/

You already know what breed of dog this was; we need to ban pit bulls. There are 190 dog breeds in the United States alone. How many of them weren’t bred for blood sport? How many of them don’t maul for fun?

It says "appeared to be pit bulls" does not make them so.

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Anonymous wrote:“But my ‘pittie’ is the SWEETEST EVER and would never hurt a fly!”

Eff you, pit bull owners. They should be spayed and neutered out of existence.

F You.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for the parents but also believe they need to be charged with something. They killed their babies. There needs to be consequences.

These parents will live with the consequences forever as it is. There is nothing worse.

Not enough for me. This was no freak accident. This was criminal negligence that resulted in the death of two children. I don’t think prison time should be out of the question in these situations.

+ 1 million. I'm tired of hearing these stories. It is just as often someone ELSE'S kids, too. It is a mission of mine to get these things banned. There is no logical reason for them to exist and anyone that disagrees is a frigging idiot.

NP. Totally agree. Even if someone's specific pit bull (or pit bull mix) is "sweet" blah blah -- even if the dog WERE genuinely good-tempered overall, the dog's anatomy is still a pit bull anatomy. And their jaws are designed to deliver horrific bites to kill. It's not just about demeanor or supposed viciousness. It's about how any pit or pit mix has the physical equpiment to crush and rip with incredible force, much more than most other breeds of dog. So if even the "nicest" pit/mix that's been well socialized and trained gets frightened suddenly--that dog is going to deliver a bite that is simply going to be vastly worse than if the dog were some other breed. It's about mechanics as well as temperament. But pit bull lovers refuse to believe that despite the fact it's anatomy, physics, mechanics.

It's not about mean people hating pit owners' precious, darling, sweet and oh so misunderstood dogs.

It's about people telling them, the gentlest dog on the planet can still bite if startled or frightened; why have a dog where if it bites only ONCE in its entire life, that ONE bite could crush a child's skull or rip out an adult's throat because that's what its jaws are built to do, and that build cannot be altered by all the training and love in the world?

My dearest friend has a pit mix who is nervous around people except her. I know not to engage her on the topic of pit bulls/mixes. BUT she always puts the dog into "doggie day care" for the day when anyone comes to visit her because she knows and accepts that her dog is not going to be happy with people in his territory other than her, and she wants guests to be relaxed. I appreciate that more than I can say.

Pit bulls are just the same physically as any other dog
In fact their bite pressure is not as high as other dogs. If your friend's dog was that bad than the doggy day care would not want him there. Maybe the dog doesn't like you.

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By stopping children from being ripped apart in their own homes.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for the parents but also believe they need to be charged with something. They killed their babies. There needs to be consequences.

These parents will live with the consequences forever as it is. There is nothing worse.

Not enough for me. This was no freak accident. This was criminal negligence that resulted in the death of two children. I don’t think prison time should be out of the question in these situations.

+ 1 million. I'm tired of hearing these stories. It is just as often someone ELSE'S kids, too. It is a mission of mine to get these things banned. There is no logical reason for them to exist and anyone that disagrees is a frigging idiot.

NP. Totally agree. Even if someone's specific pit bull (or pit bull mix) is "sweet" blah blah -- even if the dog WERE genuinely good-tempered overall, the dog's anatomy is still a pit bull anatomy. And their jaws are designed to deliver horrific bites to kill. It's not just about demeanor or supposed viciousness. It's about how any pit or pit mix has the physical equpiment to crush and rip with incredible force, much more than most other breeds of dog. So if even the "nicest" pit/mix that's been well socialized and trained gets frightened suddenly--that dog is going to deliver a bite that is simply going to be vastly worse than if the dog were some other breed. It's about mechanics as well as temperament. But pit bull lovers refuse to believe that despite the fact it's anatomy, physics, mechanics.

It's not about mean people hating pit owners' precious, darling, sweet and oh so misunderstood dogs.

It's about people telling them, the gentlest dog on the planet can still bite if startled or frightened; why have a dog where if it bites only ONCE in its entire life, that ONE bite could crush a child's skull or rip out an adult's throat because that's what its jaws are built to do, and that build cannot be altered by all the training and love in the world?

My dearest friend has a pit mix who is nervous around people except her. I know not to engage her on the topic of pit bulls/mixes. BUT she always puts the dog into "doggie day care" for the day when anyone comes to visit her because she knows and accepts that her dog is not going to be happy with people in his territory other than her, and she wants guests to be relaxed. I appreciate that more than I can say.

Pit bulls are just the same physically as any other dog
In fact their bite pressure is not as high as other dogs. If your friend's dog was that bad than the doggy day care would not want him there. Maybe the dog doesn't like you.

Sorry, this is nuts. Pit bulls are big and strong and high energy, like a German shepherd or a Dalmatian. They’re overpowered to be family pets. The difference is there are tons of them, most bred irresponsibly.

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Anonymous wrote:Agree we should ban them. I think the key is to ban breeding dogs that have identifiable pit bull characteristics or parentage. Often the people breeding these dogs are doing it for the wrong reasons anyway (breeding dogs for strength, viciousness, and size, either for dog fighting or for “protection”) so this is not done innocent “oh gosh I had no idea” innocence. Going after some of these breeders would make a real impact on prevalence of the breed, especially in rescue populations.

Speaking of rescues, there are two reasons that pit bull mixes are so common in shelters (often it’s the vast majority of dogs in a shelter). It’s because people adopt these dogs and then discover the dog is scary or aggressive, and abandon them. Even people who want dogs mostly don’t want pits (unless they want an aggressive dog, because they WANT the dog to attack). This should tell us something.

You are so sadly ignorant. My dog us 33% Americsn pit terrier. She has other breeds like Siberian husky, Australian and border collie as well as lab. I got her because she needed a home and we wanted a pet. That's it.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for the parents but also believe they need to be charged with something. They killed their babies. There needs to be consequences.

These parents will live with the consequences forever as it is. There is nothing worse.

Not enough for me. This was no freak accident. This was criminal negligence that resulted in the death of two children. I don’t think prison time should be out of the question in these situations.

+ 1 million. I'm tired of hearing these stories. It is just as often someone ELSE'S kids, too. It is a mission of mine to get these things banned. There is no logical reason for them to exist and anyone that disagrees is a frigging idiot.

NP. Totally agree. Even if someone's specific pit bull (or pit bull mix) is "sweet" blah blah -- even if the dog WERE genuinely good-tempered overall, the dog's anatomy is still a pit bull anatomy. And their jaws are designed to deliver horrific bites to kill. It's not just about demeanor or supposed viciousness. It's about how any pit or pit mix has the physical equpiment to crush and rip with incredible force, much more than most other breeds of dog. So if even the "nicest" pit/mix that's been well socialized and trained gets frightened suddenly--that dog is going to deliver a bite that is simply going to be vastly worse than if the dog were some other breed. It's about mechanics as well as temperament. But pit bull lovers refuse to believe that despite the fact it's anatomy, physics, mechanics.

It's not about mean people hating pit owners' precious, darling, sweet and oh so misunderstood dogs.

It's about people telling them, the gentlest dog on the planet can still bite if startled or frightened; why have a dog where if it bites only ONCE in its entire life, that ONE bite could crush a child's skull or rip out an adult's throat because that's what its jaws are built to do, and that build cannot be altered by all the training and love in the world?

My dearest friend has a pit mix who is nervous around people except her. I know not to engage her on the topic of pit bulls/mixes. BUT she always puts the dog into "doggie day care" for the day when anyone comes to visit her because she knows and accepts that her dog is not going to be happy with people in his territory other than her, and she wants guests to be relaxed. I appreciate that more than I can say.

Pit bulls are just the same physically as any other dog
In fact their bite pressure is not as high as other dogs. If your friend's dog was that bad than the doggy day care would not want him there. Maybe the dog doesn't like you.

Sorry, this is nuts. Pit bulls are big and strong and high energy, like a German shepherd or a Dalmatian. They’re overpowered to be family pets. The difference is there are tons of them, most bred irresponsibly.

Not true. There are many "pit bulls" are smaller than German shepherds and dalmatians

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Anonymous wrote:What percentage of pit bull should a dog have before it's banned or put to sleep? Given that a significant number of dogs are mixed breed, what's the cut off? Who gets to decide if a mutt with 20% pit bull is less dangerous than one with 60% pit bull? Do you ban all dogs with any pit heritage?

I’d ban any dog with 70% or more pit and require those with any pit blood to be spayed/neutered.

All dogs should be neutered and spayed. I am against banning any dogs because it is wrong to blame all dogs.

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A lot of dog injuries to children could be prevented if people kept kids and dogs separate or waited to get a dog until their kids were older. I have relatives in my extended family who have large dogs (a Great Dane in one case and a German Shepherd in another) and young kids--I just don't get it and I am a huge dog lover.

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Anonymous wrote:What a horrible tragedy for this family; I cannot imagine the emotional pain they’re in or the physical pain the mother is in (she was critically injured trying to protect her children from being mauled by the family dogs; since upgraded to serious condition). A two year old and a five month old are dead. https://wreg.com/news/local/children-dead-mother-injured-after-dog-attack-scso/amp/

You already know what breed of dog this was; we need to ban pit bulls. There are 190 dog breeds in the United States alone. How many of them weren’t bred for blood sport? How many of them don’t maul for fun?

It says "appeared to be pit bulls" does not make them so.

they are. You can see the photos of each.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for the parents but also believe they need to be charged with something. They killed their babies. There needs to be consequences.

These parents will live with the consequences forever as it is. There is nothing worse.

Not enough for me. This was no freak accident. This was criminal negligence that resulted in the death of two children. I don’t think prison time should be out of the question in these situations.

+ 1 million. I'm tired of hearing these stories. It is just as often someone ELSE'S kids, too. It is a mission of mine to get these things banned. There is no logical reason for them to exist and anyone that disagrees is a frigging idiot.

NP. Totally agree. Even if someone's specific pit bull (or pit bull mix) is "sweet" blah blah -- even if the dog WERE genuinely good-tempered overall, the dog's anatomy is still a pit bull anatomy. And their jaws are designed to deliver horrific bites to kill. It's not just about demeanor or supposed viciousness. It's about how any pit or pit mix has the physical equpiment to crush and rip with incredible force, much more than most other breeds of dog. So if even the "nicest" pit/mix that's been well socialized and trained gets frightened suddenly--that dog is going to deliver a bite that is simply going to be vastly worse than if the dog were some other breed. It's about mechanics as well as temperament. But pit bull lovers refuse to believe that despite the fact it's anatomy, physics, mechanics.

It's not about mean people hating pit owners' precious, darling, sweet and oh so misunderstood dogs.

It's about people telling them, the gentlest dog on the planet can still bite if startled or frightened; why have a dog where if it bites only ONCE in its entire life, that ONE bite could crush a child's skull or rip out an adult's throat because that's what its jaws are built to do, and that build cannot be altered by all the training and love in the world?

My dearest friend has a pit mix who is nervous around people except her. I know not to engage her on the topic of pit bulls/mixes. BUT she always puts the dog into "doggie day care" for the day when anyone comes to visit her because she knows and accepts that her dog is not going to be happy with people in his territory other than her, and she wants guests to be relaxed. I appreciate that more than I can say.

Pit bulls are just the same physically as any other dog
In fact their bite pressure is not as high as other dogs. If your friend's dog was that bad than the doggy day care would not want him there. Maybe the dog doesn't like you.

no, they are not the same. Look. Really look at the shape of the mouth of the pit bull. It’s designed for power in an attack. It’s wide.

[Anonymous]

Why on earth does anyone want a pitbull? It makes no sense.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for the parents but also believe they need to be charged with something. They killed their babies. There needs to be consequences.

These parents will live with the consequences forever as it is. There is nothing worse.

Not enough for me. This was no freak accident. This was criminal negligence that resulted in the death of two children. I don’t think prison time should be out of the question in these situations.

+ 1 million. I'm tired of hearing these stories. It is just as often someone ELSE'S kids, too. It is a mission of mine to get these things banned. There is no logical reason for them to exist and anyone that disagrees is a frigging idiot.

NP. Totally agree. Even if someone's specific pit bull (or pit bull mix) is "sweet" blah blah -- even if the dog WERE genuinely good-tempered overall, the dog's anatomy is still a pit bull anatomy. And their jaws are designed to deliver horrific bites to kill. It's not just about demeanor or supposed viciousness. It's about how any pit or pit mix has the physical equpiment to crush and rip with incredible force, much more than most other breeds of dog. So if even the "nicest" pit/mix that's been well socialized and trained gets frightened suddenly--that dog is going to deliver a bite that is simply going to be vastly worse than if the dog were some other breed. It's about mechanics as well as temperament. But pit bull lovers refuse to believe that despite the fact it's anatomy, physics, mechanics.

It's not about mean people hating pit owners' precious, darling, sweet and oh so misunderstood dogs.

It's about people telling them, the gentlest dog on the planet can still bite if startled or frightened; why have a dog where if it bites only ONCE in its entire life, that ONE bite could crush a child's skull or rip out an adult's throat because that's what its jaws are built to do, and that build cannot be altered by all the training and love in the world?

My dearest friend has a pit mix who is nervous around people except her. I know not to engage her on the topic of pit bulls/mixes. BUT she always puts the dog into "doggie day care" for the day when anyone comes to visit her because she knows and accepts that her dog is not going to be happy with people in his territory other than her, and she wants guests to be relaxed. I appreciate that more than I can say.

Pit bulls are just the same physically as any other dog
In fact their bite pressure is not as high as other dogs. If your friend's dog was that bad than the doggy day care would not want him there. Maybe the dog doesn't like you.

Sorry, this is nuts. Pit bulls are big and strong and high energy, like a German shepherd or a Dalmatian. They’re overpowered to be family pets. The difference is there are tons of them, most bred irresponsibly.

Not true. There are many "pit bulls" are smaller than German shepherds and dalmatians

Weird though, I don't regularly see newsflashes about children killed by spot the dalmatian. 9/10 its a pit.

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Anonymous wrote:I feel very sad for the parents but also believe they need to be charged with something. They killed their babies. There needs to be consequences.

These parents will live with the consequences forever as it is. There is nothing worse.

Not enough for me. This was no freak accident. This was criminal negligence that resulted in the death of two children. I don’t think prison time should be out of the question in these situations.

+ 1 million. I'm tired of hearing these stories. It is just as often someone ELSE'S kids, too. It is a mission of mine to get these things banned. There is no logical reason for them to exist and anyone that disagrees is a frigging idiot.

NP. Totally agree. Even if someone's specific pit bull (or pit bull mix) is "sweet" blah blah -- even if the dog WERE genuinely good-tempered overall, the dog's anatomy is still a pit bull anatomy. And their jaws are designed to deliver horrific bites to kill. It's not just about demeanor or supposed viciousness. It's about how any pit or pit mix has the physical equpiment to crush and rip with incredible force, much more than most other breeds of dog. So if even the "nicest" pit/mix that's been well socialized and trained gets frightened suddenly--that dog is going to deliver a bite that is simply going to be vastly worse than if the dog were some other breed. It's about mechanics as well as temperament. But pit bull lovers refuse to believe that despite the fact it's anatomy, physics, mechanics.

It's not about mean people hating pit owners' precious, darling, sweet and oh so misunderstood dogs.

It's about people telling them, the gentlest dog on the planet can still bite if startled or frightened; why have a dog where if it bites only ONCE in its entire life, that ONE bite could crush a child's skull or rip out an adult's throat because that's what its jaws are built to do, and that build cannot be altered by all the training and love in the world?

My dearest friend has a pit mix who is nervous around people except her. I know not to engage her on the topic of pit bulls/mixes. BUT she always puts the dog into "doggie day care" for the day when anyone comes to visit her because she knows and accepts that her dog is not going to be happy with people in his territory other than her, and she wants guests to be relaxed. I appreciate that more than I can say.

Pit bulls are just the same physically as any other dog
In fact their bite pressure is not as high as other dogs. If your friend's dog was that bad than the doggy day care would not want him there. Maybe the dog doesn't like you.

Sorry, this is nuts. Pit bulls are big and strong and high energy, like a German shepherd or a Dalmatian. They’re overpowered to be family pets. The difference is there are tons of them, most bred irresponsibly.

Not true. There are many "pit bulls" are smaller than German shepherds and dalmatians

Weird though, I don't regularly see newsflashes about children killed by spot the dalmatian. 9/10 its a pit.

It's not their size, it's their strength.

I have a 75 lb Golden who could theoretically bite, but he wouldn't mall anyone to death and he is not pure muscle.

My friend has a smaller pit bull -- maybe 50 lbs. -- pure muscle, wide head and jaw and the dog terrifies me. He posts pictures off the pit with his infant son playing on a mat and I shudder. It's only a matter of time until something happens. Now I would not let my big Golden on the floor with an infant either, but I am not afraid that my Golden is going to randomly go berserk in my house and rip someone to shreds.

You have to be kidding yourself if you think pit bulls are like other dogs.

[Anonymous]

Anyone with young kids should have to look at photos from this mauling before they decide to adopt a pit Bull. I love dogs and I love that my kids are growing up with pets — a lab/hound mix (actual, not a pit mix that is called something else) and a cat. But there is no potential benefit from owning a pet that would ever make me take the risk (even if small from no that particular dog) of having a pit, rottie, or any other dog that could do serious damage to my kids. This is just heartbreaking. What were these parents thinking?