BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country

[Anonymous]

There is a surge now and it’s not a nice one. I’d suggest trying to avoid it if you can.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

Very bizarre response - not anywhere did I say people had to stop living their lives- lol. I said it’s easy to say you feel “sorry” for people who aren’t living their lives when you don’t have to deal with the trauma of having a chronic or disabling condition or illness is arrogant and frankly not just tone deaf but bordering on sociopathic. Getting Covid for me could trigger a relapse in my illness, so the person’s post was of little regard to how serious illness can impact the quality of life of others. To be able to not worry about getting Covid is a serious privilege. Y’all with health privilege also seem to have little concern for the fact that it is possible to seriously damage your long term health if you keep getting repeated infections of Covid. These cavalier attitudes are a bit disturbing in the sense that they feel almost nihilistic - the idea of getting repeated infections and gambling with your kids’ health without any real concern for the future. That said, I don’t really care what you do- just think it’s really easy to be cavalier when you haven’t had to deal with the worst outcomes… yet.

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Anonymous wrote:If you are still caring/talking about Covid you’re a huge nerd and nobody likes you.

We’ve moved on. I assume for the foreseeable future some people will get sick with Covid and very, very rarely some people in poor health (like me) will die of it. Just like the flu or pneumonia.

Normal people are no longer fundamentally altering human life in 2022 America given that tail risk. We squashed the curve or whatever the hell the phrase was. Kids are fine. True Biden’s numbers on management have gotten way worse than TFG’s, but that’s impolite to mention.

So apparently if you catch COVID multiple times it reduces you to the maturity of a middle school kid?

This is why so many kids are having issues right now. Just look at the home life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New Yorkers have been asked to wear high quality masks both indoors and in crowded outdoor spaces. The BA.5 variant is extremely transmissible. It is also vaccine evasive. And as this variant surges across the country, hospitalizations are rising.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-covid-guidelines-isolation-nyc-risk-infection-omicron-variant-ba5/3766416/

It is mild, and therefore, acts like a vaccine. That’s good news.

What I’m puzzled about is why vaccinated people are getting these variants at a higher rate than non.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

How about we all work together given we all live, work and socialize in a highly populated area. What debt have you paid? I got sick a month ago, got better, caught something else and in bed for two weeks now? My kids have been in virtual and outside a few activities we are home and don’t see anyone. We,ve done our part and my kids will continue to pay the price for your unwillingness to take part in basic precautions. It’s not your kids paying the price, it’s mine. Your kids are not paying the price as you don’t care and did not teach them to care about the needs of others. It’s all about you and your wants.

The vaccines were not formulated for the new mutations.

So, you’re traipsing around and getting sick twice in one month and lecturing others about their actions? Ok cuckoo. If you’re running around getting sick anyway, why lock your kids up and make them into antisocial weirdos? You’re kids are playing a price alright…a price for mommy’s mental illness.

I am not running around getting sick. I am home. My kid got it from sports, shared it with me, I gave it back and then caught it again. I rarely go out.

You’re lecturing others and admonishing them for allowed their kids to do “normal” things, but, it’s ok for your kid to go to soccer, get covid, and spread it? Was he wearing his N95?

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

How about we all work together given we all live, work and socialize in a highly populated area. What debt have you paid? I got sick a month ago, got better, caught something else and in bed for two weeks now? My kids have been in virtual and outside a few activities we are home and don’t see anyone. We,ve done our part and my kids will continue to pay the price for your unwillingness to take part in basic precautions. It’s not your kids paying the price, it’s mine. Your kids are not paying the price as you don’t care and did not teach them to care about the needs of others. It’s all about you and your wants.

The vaccines were not formulated for the new mutations.

So, you’re traipsing around and getting sick twice in one month and lecturing others about their actions? Ok cuckoo. If you’re running around getting sick anyway, why lock your kids up and make them into antisocial weirdos? You’re kids are playing a price alright…a price for mommy’s mental illness.

I am not running around getting sick. I am home. My kid got it from sports, shared it with me, I gave it back and then caught it again. I rarely go out.

You’re lecturing others and admonishing them for allowed their kids to do “normal” things, but, it’s ok for your kid to go to soccer, get covid, and spread it? Was he wearing his N95?

According to posters here, N95s don’t work anymore. If that’s the case, who cares? Move on.

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Anonymous wrote:We are at a pivotal point in the pandemic as it become endemic. We are all going to get it and some us multiple times. We don’t know the long term effects of multiple infection. We do no that for many that isolation, distancing, mask wearing also comes at a societal cost. Just look at airlines, incidents plummeted once mask mandate lifted. Everyone can get vaccinated and others will always be moresusceptible and vulnerable. What kind of society and life do we want to live? I’m willing to take the risks of long COVID and unknown long term risk to live a normal life and give my kids a normal childhood. I’m sorry for those that are not able to take that risk. I mean that sincerely.

This is all really easy to say when you’ve never dealt with chronic illness or long term disability. Would be interesting to see what you would say if your good health (or your children’s God forbid) was messed up for life. As another poster says this is just dripping with arrogance, privilege and lack of humility.

Ok but how much longer would you like those without risks to stay inside, mask and quarantine when the best we can do via vaccines is already here. Another year? Two? Fifteen?

When has a healthy child's debt to others been paid?

How about we all work together given we all live, work and socialize in a highly populated area. What debt have you paid? I got sick a month ago, got better, caught something else and in bed for two weeks now? My kids have been in virtual and outside a few activities we are home and don’t see anyone. We,ve done our part and my kids will continue to pay the price for your unwillingness to take part in basic precautions. It’s not your kids paying the price, it’s mine. Your kids are not paying the price as you don’t care and did not teach them to care about the needs of others. It’s all about you and your wants.

The vaccines were not formulated for the new mutations.

So, you’re traipsing around and getting sick twice in one month and lecturing others about their actions? Ok cuckoo. If you’re running around getting sick anyway, why lock your kids up and make them into antisocial weirdos? You’re kids are playing a price alright…a price for mommy’s mental illness.

I am not running around getting sick. I am home. My kid got it from sports, shared it with me, I gave it back and then caught it again. I rarely go out.

You’re lecturing others and admonishing them for allowed their kids to do “normal” things, but, it’s ok for your kid to go to soccer, get covid, and spread it? Was he wearing his N95?

My kids wear n95 when ever they can. You cannot swim in a mask. Club took away all safety protocols and it was the last week so we allowed a few sessions. They don’t do meets and stop going when things surge. Other activity everyone was fully masked. We are as careful as we can be but if we remove them from the sport they lose their spot so they do the absolute minimum. Yup, now I don’t care. If you make us sick, I’m sending my kids sick. You don’t care, so why should we?

And it wasn’t Covid. We home tested daily and did a prc.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:New Yorkers have been asked to wear high quality masks both indoors and in crowded outdoor spaces. The BA.5 variant is extremely transmissible. It is also vaccine evasive. And as this variant surges across the country, hospitalizations are rising.

https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/coronavirus/cdc-covid-guidelines-isolation-nyc-risk-infection-omicron-variant-ba5/3766416/

It is mild, and therefore, acts like a vaccine. That’s good news.

What I’m puzzled about is why vaccinated people are getting these variants at a higher rate than non.

What is there to be puzzled about?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I had Covid last week. I wish I knew if I had this variant or the stealth variant.

I picked it up in NYC

If you tested positive, it wasn't the stealth variant.

So, if I test and it's positive, I have COVID. If I test and it's negative p, I have COVID. Testing seems irrelevant at this point.

[Anonymous]

We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

[Anonymous]

I currently have Covid, which I suspect is BA.5 because I got Covid in Europe. It sucks!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

You still have not articulated an alternative

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We can’t “live with” a virus that you can be reinfected by within weeks. The long term health costs of this are going to be astronomical. This is a mass disabling event, and doctors and epidemiologists are screaming it.

They might be screaming it but it’s falling on deaf ears. People don’t care about getting it anymore.

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Sure it is. I receive chemo weekly. I am immunocompromised. I will wear my N95 when necessary, and I fully expect non immunocompromised to go about their daily lives. We are waaay past 2020 people.

I don’t believe you. If you were really on chemo, you’d know that your N95 is nowhere near full protection for the newest strains of Omicron. Not even close.

I don’t care if you believe me. Just today, my oncologist said “go out. Do things. You don’t need to live in a bubble. Go to a restaurant. Only mask in crowded indoor spaces.”
I am 100% fine with my N95. Doesn’t change things because you don’t believe me.
Please, people, live you’re lives! Don’t let PP hold you back.

Two possibilities: Either you live in a state like Florida, or you have a stage 4 cancer, and your oncologist thinks you should go to restaurants now rather than wait out chemo (even if you don't get seriously sick from covid, why would you want to have to postpone a covid cycle due to getting covid?) - because you might be dead in 6 months. I hope it's the former. The reality is that crowded indoor spaces would be much safer for everyone if those sick with covid actually wore masks...and any serious oncologist knows this.

It’s just killing you that my oncologist right here with Maryland Oncology and Hematology disagrees with you, doesn’t it? And no, I am not stage 4. My prognosis is excellent. Would you like to keep assuming some more sh!t that just isn’t true?

[Anonymous]

Agree - this latest version is ROUGH. Only magical thinking supported idea this would just go away because "after two years we are done with it". The minimizers are morons - Covid is the #1 test of our times and we are flunking .

Flight chaos. Doctors and nurses quitting en masse. Politicians and media pandering to our worse instincts.
The worst part is the real consequences are going to be health and economic impact in decades to come from not controlling this - that is our real hidden but ballooning deficit.