If you’re that binary, then sure. Go hang you hat on it. You won. Sure I file my taxes as single. But single people can be partnered. I dunno, maybe even live together. But you won’t know that. I guess in your world one is either single or married. Nothing in between. |
So your picker is just not as sensitive if you like so many women kissing. And with this attitude you are just waiting for someone to "amaze" you in bed, rather than being interested in that partner as person, try grow into something together etc. In other words, just f... around as many women as you can. Only consider them as sexual object and it will never result in a long term commitment or a relationship. I liked only a few men kissing me, and all of them were pretty good in bed. All of them in the first place were interesting to me as a person, cared, were involved in my life etc. When someone loves you, he/she will make you happy in bed one way or another. And when YOU are in love, you will even like a woman playing dead during sex. In fact you will find it extremely sexy |
You guessed right. Why won’t you marry the woman you’re dating alone and want so badly not to cheat on? It’s almost like you, too, make a distinction towards the married state. Does this poor gal know you expect enthusiastic sex (but not a ring) from her indefinitely—or else?? |
there are many circumstances in marriage when you would not have PIV with a woman, or when a man cannot have sex: difficult pregnancy, cancer treatments etc. If someone I date told me he would always expect me to be ready to have sex, I would assume it's an extremely shallow and inexperienced person who would cheat in marriage whenever there is a health scare, or child birth etc. |
You are never going to get through to this person or the others like her who chime in from time to time. Women like that do not look at sex as a means to pleasure or closeness with a partner. It is a way to exercise control. So any suggestion that you are not going to go along with this are going to be met with weird and illogical responses like this. They cannot answer the fundamental question you pose: why would you get engaged to someone that you haven't slept with? You wouldn't! But they hate the idea that some guy is going to call the shots. So they deflect by making it seem like you are some sex obsessed weirdo who will expect a life of enthusiastic sex on demand. But seriously, you cannot reason with people like this because any answer that suggests they are not in control will be met with these weird responses. |
Since no one suggested a woman must perform sex on demand, you’re dishonest for pretending someone did. |
Actually enthusiasm for sex comes from the initial excitement and chemicals doping our brains. When the fog clears and we realize the other people has no compatibility or has issues, or doesn't help with chores or kids, our sexual enthusiasm wanes. |
I disagree. The more I know you and like you the more enthusiastic I would feel about having sex. If I don't know you well enough I wouldn’t desire sex. You wouldn't be checking my boxes. |
This is projection. Instilling fear in women that no man worth his salt will want her if she doesn’t have sex, and she will be replaced by the next warm hole who will, is the definition of an attempt at control and manipulation. A woman being selective about when and how she has sex is extremely prudent given that they overwhelmingly bear the brunt of irresponsible sexual decisions alone through pregnancy, disease, or delayed reproduction; and that men are overwhelmingly the perpetuators of violence and criminal behavior, more likely to have selfish motives in approaching her, and more likely to abandon her in her times of vulnerability. A man who can’t possibly fathom why a woman would want to protect herself until an appropriate time is not a man she should be sleeping with. He expects her to put her own well-being secondary to a man’s so-called sexual needs and in the long run that dynamic will be disastrous for both parties. You are really proving the point here. |
| OP I’m sorry that happened to you. But another way to look at it is that it’s good the player let you out early. I dated a guy who I thought was great but played me for like six months. He acted so into me and I thought we were serious, etc. But he was playing me the entire time. I don’t really take it that personally given that I didn’t know, and he’s the one who behaved so unnecessarily weirdly. But man what a waste of my time. I truly wish he would have just dumped me early on and been done with it. |
You bet he will. -Married to a "guy that is desirable to women" |
No one suggested that women should get married prior to sex here, or avoid sex indefinitely. Women here are suggesting that they get better satisfaction from sex by taking their time developing that special connection. You suggested that a man should not absolutely wait for such woman develop a connection and instead pursue those who excitedly spread their legs after 3-5 dates. This is not how it works for many women and we read all these disappointed threads about being dumped after sex as a result. I was never dumped after 2-3 months dating, not a single time! These relationships always developed into mid- or long term (one resulted in marriage). I was in fact dumped once after having sex on a 2nd week of seeing a guy. And that was pretty obvious that he only waited for that. I suggest women wait developing a connection before spreading legs, so they won't feel being used for free sex. |
“ Don't give up the sex until you have a ring on your finger.” |
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OP, I have not read the entire 6 pages but I started having better success when I followed the Georgia Rules of Dating.
Date nights are Friday and Saturday nights. The guy initiates the dates. The guy asks you out either by Tuesday or no later than Wednesday for Friday or Saturday. If he calls or texts you Thurs or Friday for Friday and or SAturday you have plans tell him to check back next week and for a Saturday or Friday night you make plans Tuesday or Wednesday before. The guy selects the date site. You can always veto or make suggestions due to safety etc but make the guy come up with the date plans. Plans can be as simple as a walk in the park but you have the guy come up with the plans. Follow these rules for about 8 weeks. This dramatically improved my dating life. It weeded out the duds. The guys came up with some really good dates. I'm with a great guy now. |
This is very true for most women. |