Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

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Anonymous wrote:An attorney for Fairfax County Public Schools, John Foster, said Friday that he believes “the ruling is not supported by law.” He said Fairfax “will consider asking a federal appeals court to review the decision.”

A school spokeswoman did not immediately answer a question on Friday asking how the school will conduct admissions for the next cycle of TJ applicants, those destined for the Class of 2026.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/02/25/judge-thomas-jefferson-high-admissions/

Well, it's a mess, but it's a mess of FCPS's making, and if they go forward with admitting students to the Class of 2026 pursuant to the revised process they are in clear violation of the district court's decision absent a stay.

You don’t stay opinions. You stay orders or injunctions. For all you know, Judge Hilton won’t make any order effective until next year’s incoming class because untangling the mess now isn’t feasible and might not be fixable if he gets reversed by the Fourth Circuit.

So maybe there wil be two tainted TJ classes rather than one. Can’t be good to attend a school knowing you were admitted under a process deemed unconstitutional.

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Anonymous wrote:Time for the NCAAP to sue under the same facts. The school needs to close

NCAAP sued and lost years ago.

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Anonymous wrote:Some quick take-aways:

* The court found that the Coalition for TJ had "standing" to sue, which effectively is a way of saying they have just as much of a right to weigh in about TJ's admissions process as anyone else around.

* The admissions changes used factors there were intentionally designed to be "proxies" to discriminate against Asian-American students - the court rejected FCPS's claim the new process is "race-neutral." ("The discussion of TJ admissions changes was infected with racial balancing from its inception").

* The FCPS process set up Asian kids to disproportionately compete against each other, and the "experience factors" were designed to discriminate against students at schools with more Asian kids.

* The court skewered a School Board that pushed forward despite their many reservations about Brabrand's plans, apparently because they felt they had to answer to constituencies demanding more non-Asian minorities at TJ.

* The Board approved something they didn't understand, as they didn't know whether the 1.5% set-asides were based on a student's base school or attending school (which had a major impact on TJ admissions from AAP centers).

* The Board's behavior was racially motivated and "patently unconstitutional."

* The appropriate remedy for the Board's violation of the constitutional rights of Asian students is "invalidation" of the new admissions process. Exactly what that means presumably will be spelled out in a future order - presumably, the judge assumes there will be an appeal.

Whatever else happens later in this case, the fact that we have a School Board that acted so imprudently and invited litigation that, at least in the first instance, has led a federal judge to conclude they have violated the U.S. Constitution and discriminated against Asian-Americans means these people should NEVER be elected to public office again.

And to all the clown lawyers and SJWs that said this case had no merit and mocked it for over a year - eat my shorts. These changes were targeting Asians and everyone knows it.

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An order has been issued

“Defendant Fairfax County School Board is enjoined from further use or enforcement of the Fall 2020 admissions plan for the Thomas Jefferson high school for school for science and technology”

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Anonymous wrote:Will they just have to do a lottery to seat the class this year? No way they have time to do anything else at this point.

They should just have the test and waive the entrance fee.

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Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

There is no automatic right of appeal for civil cases in VA, it’s discretionary directly to the VA Supreme Court. Unlikely they get an appeal, very unlikely they get a stay.

What are you talking about? This is a U.S. District Court decision.

Sorry, I havent been following and didnt pay much attention when skimming. Still… no way it survives strict scrutiny.

You are clearly not a lawyer. Stop pretending you know what you are talking about.

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Anonymous wrote:An order has been issued

“Defendant Fairfax County School Board is enjoined from further use or enforcement of the Fall 2020 admissions plan for the Thomas Jefferson high school for school for science and technology”

The order was issued today along with the opinion and signed by the judge. It also states that the plaintiffs motion for summary judgment was granted and the defendants motion for summary judgment was denied

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Anonymous wrote:An order has been issued

“Defendant Fairfax County School Board is enjoined from further use or enforcement of the Fall 2020 admissions plan for the Thomas Jefferson high school for school for science and technology”

Link?

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Anonymous wrote:Which is the more fair system (a simplification):

System A: Students take a test to get into a school. The top 550 students get in. There is no consideration for geographic diversity. There is no consideration for SES diversity. Test prepping is rampant, and reserved for those that can afford it.

System B: Students take a test. Prior to the test, the school makes a decision on what scores are likely to result in "successful" students. Everyone who scores in that range is put into a pool. 750 students make the cut. The student population is then selected with various factors in mind, including geographic and SES diversity. Students that are ranked from 450-550 are left out.

A. I think as a state and as a larger society we need to have opportunities for the smartest students. I don’t see anything wrong with test prepping. They are still aceing the test. I went to a similar school and many of the students were very poor but spent all their free time on academics.

(My kids are not TJ kids)

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Anonymous wrote:When will the judge likely issue the order re the class of 2026?

He may not—he could make his order prospective only (assuming he hasn’t already issued an order—haven’t checked the docket recently).

His order was immediate. FCPS may not use this process for the class of 2026. FCPS still has other options.

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The School Board should resign in disgrace. Every single one of them has now been adjudicated by a federal district court to have violated the law. It's been obvious for some time they were incompetent, hypocritical, and wholly unsuited to their elected positions, but now it's official.

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Anonymous wrote:When will the judge likely issue the order re the class of 2026?

He may not—he could make his order prospective only (assuming he hasn’t already issued an order—haven’t checked the docket recently).

His order was immediate. FCPS may not use this process for the class of 2026. FCPS still has other options.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Anonymous wrote:When will the judge likely issue the order re the class of 2026?

He may not—he could make his order prospective only (assuming he hasn’t already issued an order—haven’t checked the docket recently).

His order was immediate. FCPS may not use this process for the class of 2026. FCPS still has other options.

Honest question. What does "Fairfax County School Board is enjoined from further use or enforcement of the Fall 2020 admissions" mean exactly? That they can't use it for the next admissions cycle which is yet to start, or that it can't be used for this admissions cycle, which is already underway?

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Anonymous wrote:When will the judge likely issue the order re the class of 2026?

He may not—he could make his order prospective only (assuming he hasn’t already issued an order—haven’t checked the docket recently).

His order was immediate. FCPS may not use this process for the class of 2026. FCPS still has other options.

Honest question. What does "Fairfax County School Board is enjoined from further use or enforcement of the Fall 2020 admissions" mean exactly? That they can't use it for the next admissions cycle which is yet to start, or that it can't be used for this admissions cycle, which is already underway?

Yes. It means they can’t use this admissions process effective immediately. So for class of 2026 they’ll have to come up with an alternative.

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Anonymous wrote:The School Board should resign in disgrace. Every single one of them has now been adjudicated by a federal district court to have violated the law. It's been obvious for some time they were incompetent, hypocritical, and wholly unsuited to their elected positions, but now it's official.

Weren't they elected by you and your neighbors? Why did you vote them in in the fist place?