Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

It seems like any admission process will have its issues. They should just go full lottery. That's the fairest way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

There is no automatic right of appeal for civil cases in VA, it’s discretionary directly to the VA Supreme Court. Unlikely they get an appeal, very unlikely they get a stay.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

There is no automatic right of appeal for civil cases in VA, it’s discretionary directly to the VA Supreme Court. Unlikely they get an appeal, very unlikely they get a stay.

What are you talking about? This is a U.S. District Court decision.

[Anonymous]

An attorney for Fairfax County Public Schools, John Foster, said Friday that he believes “the ruling is not supported by law.” He said Fairfax “will consider asking a federal appeals court to review the decision.”

A school spokeswoman did not immediately answer a question on Friday asking how the school will conduct admissions for the next cycle of TJ applicants, those destined for the Class of 2026.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/02/25/judge-thomas-jefferson-high-admissions/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:An attorney for Fairfax County Public Schools, John Foster, said Friday that he believes “the ruling is not supported by law.” He said Fairfax “will consider asking a federal appeals court to review the decision.”

A school spokeswoman did not immediately answer a question on Friday asking how the school will conduct admissions for the next cycle of TJ applicants, those destined for the Class of 2026.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/02/25/judge-thomas-jefferson-high-admissions/

Well, it's a mess, but it's a mess of FCPS's making, and if they go forward with admitting students to the Class of 2026 pursuant to the revised process they are in clear violation of the district court's decision absent a stay.

[Anonymous]

I am glad about the ruling. The whole process was carefully crafted to take away all the advantages that asian kids have i.e., 1. quota based on attending school (asian kids are concentrated in AAP centers) 2. unweighted GPA (no advantage to kids who are on accelerated path) 3. much less weightage to GPA (300 out of 1200 points? - asian parents/kids are obsessed with grades) 4. no teacher recommendations (grades can be subjective and teacher can recommend based on how well the student performances compared to other students he/she teaches) 5. significant weightage (300 + 300?) to problem solving essay and portrait sheets (Writing isn't usually a strong point for asian kids as compared to math and grading these essays is purely subjective and tests writing skills more than STEM) 6. Significant weightage to 'other' factors (most asian kids with educated parents in a good school zones essentially score '0'). 7. Of courses, no ACT type math screening test. I am also curious if the admission process is really race blind i.e, if the person who grades the essays can read the names of kids, they can easily say who they are.

Though the changes unfairly targeted asians, any kids with academic focus parents are at similar disadvantage. For example, my kids go to AAP center school and though asians account for 40-50% of students, I noticed that non-asian parents are very academic oriented as well and participate in lots of STEM activities etc.

I am curious to see what happens next.

[Anonymous]

When I mentioned this was happening with Asians and colleges, I was called racist. It was reported in Newsweek and other places.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The Admissions Office was likely to release decisions within the next month before this ruling. Assuming the injunction stays the process for class of 2026, one wonders how the Admissions Office will proceed.

I am most interested in the answer to this question. What is going to happen to the kids who applied under the new system this year?

They have to scrap it and do the admissions process all over again for the class of 2026. The woke white racists lost this round. Maybe they will do it right and look at the Black & Hispanic kids in AAP instead of assuming that they all live in the hood.

That’s not an option that’s reasonably on the table. The applicants are the applicants at this point.

Then they would be violating a court order. Today the judge prohibited the current admission practice. They must start over.

I believe he has just issued an opinion, with an order to issue soon? And if Fairfax appeals, they can seek a stay of any order pending appeal. I doubt this will have any immediate impact (though maybe I’m wrong and an order has issued—if so can someone link to it?)

There is no automatic right of appeal for civil cases in VA, it’s discretionary directly to the VA Supreme Court. Unlikely they get an appeal, very unlikely they get a stay.

What are you talking about? This is a U.S. District Court decision.

Sorry, I havent been following and didnt pay much attention when skimming. Still… no way it survives strict scrutiny.

[Anonymous]

Will they just have to do a lottery to seat the class this year? No way they have time to do anything else at this point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:An attorney for Fairfax County Public Schools, John Foster, said Friday that he believes “the ruling is not supported by law.” He said Fairfax “will consider asking a federal appeals court to review the decision.”

A school spokeswoman did not immediately answer a question on Friday asking how the school will conduct admissions for the next cycle of TJ applicants, those destined for the Class of 2026.“

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2022/02/25/judge-thomas-jefferson-high-admissions/

Well, it's a mess, but it's a mess of FCPS's making, and if they go forward with admitting students to the Class of 2026 pursuant to the revised process they are in clear violation of the district court's decision absent a stay.

You don’t stay opinions. You stay orders or injunctions. For all you know, Judge Hilton won’t make any order effective until next year’s incoming class because untangling the mess now isn’t feasible and might not be fixable if he gets reversed by the Fourth Circuit.

[Anonymous]

When will the judge likely issue the order re the class of 2026?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:When will the judge likely issue the order re the class of 2026?

He may not—he could make his order prospective only (assuming he hasn’t already issued an order—haven’t checked the docket recently).