WARNING - DD filmed by two older men in Plaza America Reston Starbucks

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best thing to do in that situation is to leave. Remove yourself from the situation.

Which is what they did

Not quite.

They engaged the barista who tipped off the men. That could have ended badly. The men could have approached the woman or followed her.

It would have been safer to leave abruptly.

I don’t agree. The chances of them being followed or their license plate being taken would have been much greater. The Barista let them know their activity was noted. They did not get up and follow DD and her friend when they left. They stayed put in the back of the Starbucks. Because it was now too much of a risk to pull anything. Onto the next victim. I am letting people know what happened because these two men have probably engaged in this activity prior and will do it again. People need to be aware.

Ha ha ha ha ha. I guarantee if anyone asks at that Starbucks, this never happened. 100% made up.

[Anonymous]

Something for all of you to consider. If you do not share your location with a trusted someone, you will NOT be found in time due to legalities. As someone who has been followed a few times, sharing location is critical in getting the police to your location in a timely manner.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best thing to do in that situation is to leave. Remove yourself from the situation.

Which is what they did

Not quite.

They engaged the barista who tipped off the men. That could have ended badly. The men could have approached the woman or followed her.

It would have been safer to leave abruptly.

I don’t agree. The chances of them being followed or their license plate being taken would have been much greater. The Barista let them know their activity was noted. They did not get up and follow DD and her friend when they left. They stayed put in the back of the Starbucks. Because it was now too much of a risk to pull anything. Onto the next victim. I am letting people know what happened because these two men have probably engaged in this activity prior and will do it again. People need to be aware.

Ha ha ha ha ha. I guarantee if anyone asks at that Starbucks, this never happened. 100% made up.

You do you, boo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The best thing to do in that situation is to leave. Remove yourself from the situation.

Which is what they did

Not quite.

They engaged the barista who tipped off the men. That could have ended badly. The men could have approached the woman or followed her.

It would have been safer to leave abruptly.

I don’t agree. The chances of them being followed or their license plate being taken would have been much greater. The Barista let them know their activity was noted. They did not get up and follow DD and her friend when they left. They stayed put in the back of the Starbucks. Because it was now too much of a risk to pull anything. Onto the next victim. I am letting people know what happened because these two men have probably engaged in this activity prior and will do it again. People need to be aware.

Ha ha ha ha ha. I guarantee if anyone asks at that Starbucks, this never happened. 100% made up.

Feel free. Then go back to Reddit

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

I wouldn't have known exactly what to do and I'm 34.

Really? Grow a spine. Walk over and say "please stop filming me." DUH

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

It is really disturbing that a 25 year old’s first instinct when faced with a troubling situation was to text her mother. What has happened to this generation?

Also, it’s creepy and gross but not a crime to film in public. Calling the police was not the right advice.

Incorrect. These guys were likely involved in sex trafficking.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There is nothing wrong with someone seeking advice from others when they find themselves in a weird situation like this. What difference does it make if they reach out to a parent as opposed to a friend or work colleague? And filming a young woman in public like that is downright creepy. It is disturbing how quick some are to excuse this type of behavior simply because it is not per se illegal. Lots of behavior falls within the "lawful but awful" category. That doesn't make it appropriate. It isn't necessarily illegal to make vulgar or lewd comments to a woman in public either. But if you do so, you have no right to complain about being called out on it. And if someone punched your lights out for it, good luck getting a jury to convict them.

A jury will absolutely convict you of “punching their lights out” if you attack someone because they took your picture.


Ask Sean Penn about that.

There is a world of difference between a celeb attacking paparazzi and the situation raised by OP. On several occasions, I have seen juries come back with lightning fast acquittals in battery cases where the "victim" appeared to have it coming. One instance, for example, was a father who tracked down and beat the hell out of a man who made lewd comments to his teenage daughter in an elevator. The father took the stand and admitted kicking his ass. The jury still wouldn't convict.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

It is really disturbing that a 25 year old’s first instinct when faced with a troubling situation was to text her mother. What has happened to this generation?

Also, it’s creepy and gross but not a crime to film in public. Calling the police was not the right advice.

Incorrect. These guys were likely involved in sex trafficking.

False.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Human traffickers or Sex offenders.

Make sure that your DD is never alone, parks safely, carries a pepper spray, has her location sharing on.

Hahaha. Human traffickers don’t look for victims in suburban Starbucks. They look for economically vulnerable and isolated young women, not 20 somethings who are so spoiled and coddled that they call Mommy when someone looks at them wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your DD is immature.

The pedo posted here.

Sexual attraction to a 25 year old is not pedophilia

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

I wouldn't have known exactly what to do and I'm 34.

Seriously. I'm probably around the op's age and I would've asked a man to intercede as her dd did. In the moment, it's hard to know how or whether to respond.

So you're in your 50s and think that because a man inside a Starbucks is making you uncomfortable that the only thing you can do is ask another man for help? And we wonder why women are treated so poorly in our society. How about being independent, lady?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

It is really disturbing that a 25 year old’s first instinct when faced with a troubling situation was to text her mother. What has happened to this generation?

Also, it’s creepy and gross but not a crime to film in public. Calling the police was not the right advice.

Incorrect. These guys were likely involved in sex trafficking.

Really? Not a chance anyone is abducting white women from a Starbucks in Reston.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

I wouldn't have known exactly what to do and I'm 34.

Seriously. I'm probably around the op's age and I would've asked a man to intercede as her dd did. In the moment, it's hard to know how or whether to respond.

So you're in your 50s and think that because a man inside a Starbucks is making you uncomfortable that the only thing you can do is ask another man for help? And we wonder why women are treated so poorly in our society. How about being independent, lady?

Creepy men don't respond well when women stand up to them. Decent men can and will assist women in need. I have no hesitation accepting help from a man.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My 25 year old DD and her friend were in the Plaza America Reston Starbucks when a young woman approached my daughter and said two older (50s) men were sitting together filming on their phone, mostly my DD who was facing them. My DD immediately texted me (I’m out of town) and asked what she should do. I said call the police and let them handle it. Both girls were reluctant to do so, so told a male Barista who bravely went over and approached the men, telling them to delete the recording. The girls left and went to her friend’s Mom’s home. I called the non-emergency number and the officer was very nice, but said that it was not a crime unless it was lewd filming (i.e. in a bathroom stall, etc).

When I get back I’m going to that Starbucks and leaving a huge tip in their cup.

Yep, it's not a crime. One of my kids has a deranged stalker fellow student filming him at high school. Nothing the school can do, but tell her to stop. They cannot take her phone. They cannot ask to see what she filmed. She can deny. You are allowed to film in public places. It's totally creepy. Police can do nothing. That was kind of the barista, but they do not have to erase it or stop. The laws need to catch up with phones.

Thought it was illegal to film without consent if the film is recording audio.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your 25 year old daughter couldn’t figure out what to do without your help? Yikes.

I wouldn't have known exactly what to do and I'm 34.

Seriously. I'm probably around the op's age and I would've asked a man to intercede as her dd did. In the moment, it's hard to know how or whether to respond.

I agree. And kudos to the barista!