STA vs Wilson Game: Fighting and Drinking

[Anonymous]

Stop making excuses. Kids in private school experienced civid too. It’s the policies of PUBLIC schools that have caused this. Private schools have rules and accountability. That is why it’s not happening in private school.

[Anonymous]

Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

So where’s the accountability, again? Didn’t see it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

Much of this is being exaggerated. The title is even wrong

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are students even allowed to be in the stands? It should just be family members due to covid.

Don’t know about Wilson but all sta kids are getting tested weekly and were wearing masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's leave race and school names aside, for a moment. Kids raided other kids backpacks, stole cell phones, smashed windows of buses and keyed cars. How can anyone be defending this or pointing fingers elsewhere?

Anyone can understand that this is a handful of individuals. There is no need to defend the behavior for fear they reflect poorly on an entire school.

Lost in all this is the fact a tournament, held in honor of a wonderful coach and lovely human being who died of COVID in the early spring of 2020, was cancelled.

It’s indefensible. With this glaring lack of accountability and owning up to poor behavior, is it any wonder why public schools are awash with violence? And no, it’s not Covid. This isn’t happening in private schools nationwide. Stop making excuses and fix your schools.

This.

Oh FFS. What the students is wrong. Not arguing with that. But this is insane. First of all the ability of DCPS schools to fix themselves is severely hamstrung by the bureaucracy of DCPS and the constraints the DC Council has placed on them. It is close to impossible to suspend/expel a student from a DCPS school. Couple that with 1.5 years out of school and the lack of emotional growth - its a mess and a challenge.

And, DCPS doesn't have the luxuries that private schools have. Our schools are big with all sorts of types in it. Not everyone has the desire to be there or fear getting thrown out. And more importantly, they do the most good. They are trying to educate and help those who need it the most. Put everyone in public and those schools would be infinitely better for all of the kids not just those who have wealthy or involved parents.

Sigh.

I went to public school here. So did all my friends. None of us acted this way. This victim mentality of yours is off the charts. It’s also nonsense in terms of causation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Let's leave race and school names aside, for a moment. Kids raided other kids backpacks, stole cell phones, smashed windows of buses and keyed cars. How can anyone be defending this or pointing fingers elsewhere?

Anyone can understand that this is a handful of individuals. There is no need to defend the behavior for fear they reflect poorly on an entire school.

Lost in all this is the fact a tournament, held in honor of a wonderful coach and lovely human being who died of COVID in the early spring of 2020, was cancelled.

It’s indefensible. With this glaring lack of accountability and owning up to poor behavior, is it any wonder why public schools are awash with violence? And no, it’s not Covid. This isn’t happening in private schools nationwide. Stop making excuses and fix your schools.

This.

Oh FFS. What the students is wrong. Not arguing with that. But this is insane. First of all the ability of DCPS schools to fix themselves is severely hamstrung by the bureaucracy of DCPS and the constraints the DC Council has placed on them. It is close to impossible to suspend/expel a student from a DCPS school. Couple that with 1.5 years out of school and the lack of emotional growth - its a mess and a challenge.

And, DCPS doesn't have the luxuries that private schools have. Our schools are big with all sorts of types in it. Not everyone has the desire to be there or fear getting thrown out. And more importantly, they do the most good. They are trying to educate and help those who need it the most. Put everyone in public and those schools would be infinitely better for all of the kids not just those who have wealthy or involved parents.

Sigh.

I went to public school here. So did all my friends. None of us acted this way. This victim mentality of yours is off the charts. It’s also nonsense in terms of causation.

This. My husband and I were public and our kids are now private having left public in middle school because we saw what the future was going to look like and it wasn’t pretty. Now that it is here, it’s truly sad and scary what’s become of public schools.

[Anonymous]

This thread seems to have become a lightning rod for every random poster who wants to either crow about the supposed superiority of private schools or make their soft arguments to defund public education in favor of vouchers.

When kids misbehave, whether at a public or private school, there should be consequences. Wilson, in my past experience as a DC resident, was lax about schooling its students to be good neighbors, but that doesn't mean private school kids don't get into trouble or that public schools don't deserve continued support.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread seems to have become a lightning rod for every random poster who wants to either crow about the supposed superiority of private schools or make their soft arguments to defund public education in favor of vouchers.

When kids misbehave, whether at a public or private school, there should be consequences. Wilson, in my past experience as a DC resident, was lax about schooling its students to be good neighbors, but that doesn't mean private school kids don't get into trouble or that public schools don't deserve continued support.

Tales of private/public warfare on this thread are greatly exaggerated.

Most are discussing the tournament.

[Anonymous]

Seems like there’s a simple solution available to both schools to avoid any future problems. They should just avoid scheduling the other school in any sport.

My (experienced) guess is this is exactly what will happen.

Why sign up for future problems? It doesn’t matter whose fault it was. None of these school’s are interested in investigating, assigning blame and doling out punishment.

Maybe they can try again in 5, 10 or 20 years when this incident is a distant memory.

[Anonymous]

It’s a shame because the athletes will suffer. The DC public and private coaches have had good relationships, and it’s always been good to have Wilson on the schedule. Based on this, it sounds like our school will be cancelling our scheduled game with Wilson this season.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone have an official letter from either school to share? Guessing that would have some reliable info as presumably some school staff/admin were reliable eye witnesses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s a shame because the athletes will suffer. The DC public and private coaches have had good relationships, and it’s always been good to have Wilson on the schedule. Based on this, it sounds like our school will be cancelling our scheduled game with Wilson this season.

From the school administration perspective, it’s smart to cancel these games and not schedule future ones.

If there aren’t any problems at future contests, they’ll get scant credit.

But if there are, the blame will be put on the Administrators. The cry will be that they should have known better.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Let's leave race and school names aside, for a moment. Kids raided other kids backpacks, stole cell phones, smashed windows of buses and keyed cars. How can anyone be defending this or pointing fingers elsewhere?

Anyone can understand that this is a handful of individuals. There is no need to defend the behavior for fear they reflect poorly on an entire school.

Lost in all this is the fact a tournament, held in honor of a wonderful coach and lovely human being who died of COVID in the early spring of 2020, was cancelled.

Said Coach was a 30 plus year STA employee and AA man

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I certainly hope there are some serious repercussions for the Wilson students.

I don’t understand how you all think it is fair for STA students to scream, yell, use explicit language etc., and when Wilson students cheer on their team it is a problem.

Screaming and being rude may be unacceptable and I don’t condone that if that happened but it is not illegal but stealing phones and sweatshirts, vandalizing a bus, breaking a bus windshield, and keying cars is ILLEGAL. You are not reading the thread. Wilson parents saw these things as well.

This is it. I went to a number of soccer and football games this fall between STA, Gonzaga, SJC, Sidwell, etc. At each, there was back-and-forth taunting between the teams' fans. It can get pretty loud and crazy and the taunts go back-and-forth. However, never did any of these games spiral into violence or destruction or even profanity.
That is what made these Wilson students different. They got taunted and then they got destructive and started destroying and stealing things. I was recently at a SJC vs. Gonzaga football game. The taunting was significant but everyone remained under control. They didn't key cars or break windshields or call the other team the "n word".

It is NOT Taunting- its called a Cheering squad and , no , All Boys schools don't have petite girls in short skirts to sing sweet peppy songs to cheer for them . IT is a BOYS school as is Gonzaga and St Johns.

There is nothing wrong with teen males cheering as a group . They have a wonderful brotherhood and many are young- 4th graders ( 4 foot 9 inches and 80 pounds ) these are not threatening images AT ALL.

There is no equivalency between an orderly male cheering squad at an all male school and what the Wilson students regularly do ALL over town whether its at a game or on public transport or in a store. They swarm, steal with impunity, threaten with so much profanity that it is a form or assault and destroy property.