STA vs Wilson Game: Fighting and Drinking

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

It’s called hard work, not luck.

[Anonymous]

If these are the same losers who hang outside the Tenleytown metro it makes perfect sense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Seriously? Secure your things at your own school for a high school basketball tournament?

In the real world, everyone isn’t trustworthy

1. True, so far as it goes, but...

2. Largely irrelevant--this is a high school basketball tournament at STA, where theft really isn't a thing, at two schools where--at least on paper--theft is grounds for expulsion. This isn't MSG.

3. Even IF the descriptive reality is that a students' belongings aren't safe at his own school, that is NOT the goal we should be aiming for. How much lower do we want the bar? Good grief.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

About 40% of STA students receive heavy amounts of FA to attend so , no, the common decency found there among the students isn't simply because " their parents can afford to send them their " ( the rich kids don't need to steel argument )

The truth that you seem to want to wish away is the STA sets standards for its students and holds them accountable. It isn't that hard of work because these students come from homes where high standards are also an expectation. That is what you call a culture

Wilson students prove over and over again - not just in this incidence- but at Tenneltown stores, on the metro on the bus that they have no sense of right or wrong, that they come from homes that have no standards and that their school doesn't even try to hold them accountable.

Their Principals statement to Wilson parents following their destruction of property and hate speech at the STA BB game is case in point, " those Wilson fans who do not behave at sporting events will not be able to attend"

WHAT A JOKE of a toothless response.

If any STA student behaved in a similar manner they would have been expelled by Monday- no matter who they or their parents were. GONE

[Anonymous]

The victim blaming is strong on this thread.

Imagine if the situation were this: During halftime of a basketball game between NCS and [co-ed school x], school x's fans went over to the NCS student section and catcalled them (or worse). Here's how PP's would have responded: "Cover up more. You can't trust people." or "Dress very modestly. In the real world, you have to expect misogynistic objectification all the time."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

About 40% of STA students receive heavy amounts of FA to attend so , no, the common decency found there among the students isn't simply because " their parents can afford to send them their " ( the rich kids don't need to steel argument )

The truth that you seem to want to wish away is the STA sets standards for its students and holds them accountable. It isn't that hard of work because these students come from homes where high standards are also an expectation. That is what you call a culture

Wilson students prove over and over again - not just in this incidence- but at Tenneltown stores, on the metro on the bus that they have no sense of right or wrong, that they come from homes that have no standards and that their school doesn't even try to hold them accountable.

Their Principals statement to Wilson parents following their destruction of property and hate speech at the STA BB game is case in point, " those Wilson fans who do not behave at sporting events will not be able to attend"

WHAT A JOKE of a toothless response.

If any STA student behaved in a similar manner they would have been expelled by Monday- no matter who they or their parents were. GONE

*That* was the response? That you can't attend a basketball game? PP, do you have a copy of the response you could post? (I would imagine it's public, but it isn't easily obtainable from what I can tell). Our kids are on the close, full disclosure--but I don't think I'm biased when I say the following things. One, had STA or NCS kids done that, expulsion would have been at the top of the list of likely responses by the school. Two, my husband and I are products of public school education, and had either of us stole things, keyed cars, etc. at a visiting team's school, suspension would have been at the top of the list of likely responses. Expulsion is trickier in publics, but I doubt that would have been off the table either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are right that stealing is not normal and should not be condoned. But it is seriously misguided to view all private school students as more “honorable” than public school students. Many private school students who would not outright steal someone else’s property may still engage in all sorts of dishonorable behavior. See, e.g., the allegations regarding Brett Kavanaugh and his peers when he was at Georgetown Prep. Being a person of means does not automatically make you an “honorable” person, and private schools do not have a monopoly on honor.

Pathetic attempt to twist what I said and use very poor logic to once again try to climb up on some isolated rock of moral superiority when it just isn't there for your position.

We talking about WILSON students, not " All Public School Students" and the whole town knows that they behave like animals at Tennleytown and everywhere they go in packs and have FOR DECADES

THAT is the well earned criticism- Deal with IT.

As for G'Town Prep, go ahead and behave the same and maybe the supreme court of the US will bring back mandatory minimum jail terms

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

About 40% of STA students receive heavy amounts of FA to attend so , no, the common decency found there among the students isn't simply because " their parents can afford to send them their " ( the rich kids don't need to steel argument )

The truth that you seem to want to wish away is the STA sets standards for its students and holds them accountable. It isn't that hard of work because these students come from homes where high standards are also an expectation. That is what you call a culture

Wilson students prove over and over again - not just in this incidence- but at Tenneltown stores, on the metro on the bus that they have no sense of right or wrong, that they come from homes that have no standards and that their school doesn't even try to hold them accountable.

Their Principals statement to Wilson parents following their destruction of property and hate speech at the STA BB game is case in point, " those Wilson fans who do not behave at sporting events will not be able to attend"

WHAT A JOKE of a toothless response.

If any STA student behaved in a similar manner they would have been expelled by Monday- no matter who they or their parents were. GONE

*That* was the response? That you can't attend a basketball game? PP, do you have a copy of the response you could post? (I would imagine it's public, but it isn't easily obtainable from what I can tell). Our kids are on the close, full disclosure--but I don't think I'm biased when I say the following things. One, had STA or NCS kids done that, expulsion would have been at the top of the list of likely responses by the school. Two, my husband and I are products of public school education, and had either of us stole things, keyed cars, etc. at a visiting team's school, suspension would have been at the top of the list of likely responses. Expulsion is trickier in publics, but I doubt that would have been off the table either.

Can you prove who stole the merchandise? You shouldn’t expect anyone to be expelled if there is no proof they stole anything

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

About 40% of STA students receive heavy amounts of FA to attend so , no, the common decency found there among the students isn't simply because " their parents can afford to send them their " ( the rich kids don't need to steel argument )

The truth that you seem to want to wish away is the STA sets standards for its students and holds them accountable. It isn't that hard of work because these students come from homes where high standards are also an expectation. That is what you call a culture

Wilson students prove over and over again - not just in this incidence- but at Tenneltown stores, on the metro on the bus that they have no sense of right or wrong, that they come from homes that have no standards and that their school doesn't even try to hold them accountable.

Their Principals statement to Wilson parents following their destruction of property and hate speech at the STA BB game is case in point, " those Wilson fans who do not behave at sporting events will not be able to attend"

WHAT A JOKE of a toothless response.

If any STA student behaved in a similar manner they would have been expelled by Monday- no matter who they or their parents were. GONE

This is false. About 25% receive aid.

[Anonymous]

"As for G'Town Prep, go ahead and behave the same and maybe the supreme court of the US will bring back mandatory minimum jail terms"

meaning Wilson is scheduled to play G'town Prep in BB on Dec 23rd and 2 SCOTUS judges are alumnae

[Anonymous]

alumni not alumnae. But you probably never took Latin. Just a wild guess.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

About 40% of STA students receive heavy amounts of FA to attend so , no, the common decency found there among the students isn't simply because " their parents can afford to send them their " ( the rich kids don't need to steel argument )

The truth that you seem to want to wish away is the STA sets standards for its students and holds them accountable. It isn't that hard of work because these students come from homes where high standards are also an expectation. That is what you call a culture

Wilson students prove over and over again - not just in this incidence- but at Tenneltown stores, on the metro on the bus that they have no sense of right or wrong, that they come from homes that have no standards and that their school doesn't even try to hold them accountable.

Their Principals statement to Wilson parents following their destruction of property and hate speech at the STA BB game is case in point, " those Wilson fans who do not behave at sporting events will not be able to attend"

WHAT A JOKE of a toothless response.

If any STA student behaved in a similar manner they would have been expelled by Monday- no matter who they or their parents were. GONE

This is false. About 25% receive aid.

Actually I am wrong I just looked and 34 percent receive aid and I was shocked it says aid goes to families making more than 300,000. Wow we are full pay and make less than that and donate a lot too. I am rethinking giving to the annual fund now seriously. People making more than us getting aid?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

About 40% of STA students receive heavy amounts of FA to attend so , no, the common decency found there among the students isn't simply because " their parents can afford to send them their " ( the rich kids don't need to steel argument )

The truth that you seem to want to wish away is the STA sets standards for its students and holds them accountable. It isn't that hard of work because these students come from homes where high standards are also an expectation. That is what you call a culture

Wilson students prove over and over again - not just in this incidence- but at Tenneltown stores, on the metro on the bus that they have no sense of right or wrong, that they come from homes that have no standards and that their school doesn't even try to hold them accountable.

Their Principals statement to Wilson parents following their destruction of property and hate speech at the STA BB game is case in point, " those Wilson fans who do not behave at sporting events will not be able to attend"

WHAT A JOKE of a toothless response.

If any STA student behaved in a similar manner they would have been expelled by Monday- no matter who they or their parents were. GONE

This is false. About 25% receive aid.

Actually I am wrong I just looked and 34 percent receive aid and I was shocked it says aid goes to families making more than 300,000. Wow we are full pay and make less than that and donate a lot too. I am rethinking giving to the annual fund now seriously. People making more than us getting aid?

They could have 5+ kids in school or more. Or take care of elderly family members. Seems a bit high, but there may be circumstances affecting their ability to pay.

[Anonymous]

I stand corrected.

The 45 % is the percentage of POC /STA students

The portion of the each class receiving FA for this 50K plus a year school is 29 % - 1/3 of the school

People try to paint it as a rich kids school, or a classist school - anything to try to deflect.

The truth is, its a great school, sets a high standard for admission and attendance - in terms of academics AND code of conduct and 1/3 of the students who attend are only able to do so because of the generous philanthropy of the other 70 % ( the rich parents you are criticizing )

They seem to make it work and have been for over 100 Years

Now, back to what is Wrong at WILSON

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Back to the point of accountability, MPD was called to help control the situation and escort Wilson students from the school. How did they then walk out with stolen property, vandalize cars, and smash a windshield? Where were the authorities at that point?

You think police actually pursue and solve property crimes? Bless your naive heart. This isn't a sitcom, they aren't making thousands of people in a gym empty out their pockets until the stolen items are found.

Nobody should steal, however kids should secure their things. Do they leave their doors unlocked when they leave home?

Your argument reveals that you seem to accept that steeling is normal and that " not securing your personal belongings at school is akin to leaving your front door wide open facing the street at night.

A school is a learning environment, which is one of trust and support and mutual regard.

No, my child has never in 12 years on the Cathedral Close had to "lock up his belongings" for fear that a classmate would steal his wallet, his iPhone, his blazer or his money

Not just because steeling is a crime and NOT because " no one at STA needs money" . STA gives the highest portion of FA than any school in this town and has about 40 % of students on significant FA while having many students raised in great wealth. And, yet, STA students don't steel from one another, key each other's cars and smash the property of someone who has a nicer car than them.

Why ?

Because that is dishonorable.

My son could leave his backpack - in fact this happened at BVR- overnight on the cathedral grounds and everything in it would still be there the next morning.

If Wilson doesn't have that expectation or that kind of character among its students then they should go to work on that because it is the expectation for a functioning work place, school or family.

You are lucky that your child got into private school, and that you can afford to pay.

It’s called hard work, not luck.

DP - Ha ha! Keep telling yourself that. Luck is always a part of significant success. There is a solid body of research on this.

I’m not saying that hard work isn’t necessary too. I'm just saying that many, many people work hard with only modest success. You don’t know many middle-class or lower-UMC people if you don’t know that.