How long will the shutdown last?

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Anonymous wrote:CNN interviewed a prison officer today who said that they are working without pay and because some people are not coming in they are having to work longer shifts - some as long as 16 hours at times. He also mentioned that there has been an increase in attacks on prison guards.

Yes, vice interviewed 4 prison guards. They voted for Trump and are furious, like almost in tears.

Very sad situation. They are being put in danger.

Also the TSA union is reporting that workers are starting to quit and they warn that this could harm airport security

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/08/tsa-screeners-quit-government-shutdown-1087269

but 90% of government workers are Dems so who cares if the shutdown is hurting government workers. Trump sure doesn't.

So Trump isn’t President of Democrat’s? If a Democrat says “not my President”, Republicans after? I thought he was President of all Americans?

That is precisely what makes Trump so different and disturbing as compared to previous presidents, GOP and otherwise. He is completely partisan and tribal; he doesn’t care about Democrats or anyone who did not vote for him. This is something you see with the GOP more broadly at the state level. If you live in a district with a Republican Senator or House rep, they will literally hang up the phone / toss your letter / slam the door if you are a Dem. These aren’t leaders they are partisans.

Such a dangerous time for our country.

Trump is terrible but, to be fair, Democrats do this too.

Are Democrats the party of shutdowns or big government? Which is it? Can’t be both. Trump really looked stupid tonight.

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Anonymous wrote:It will last until Pelosi agrees to compromise.

Trump doesn’t accept compromise. He only accepts deals where he gets everything and they get nothing. He’s had deals before and he rejected them. He does t want compromise. Trump sucks at deal making.

No. He did not get a deal on this before.

Last year, 25 billion for the wall.

What the heck did he do with the 25 billion last year?

He turned it down.

What strings were attached?

Dreamer protections. We don’t live in a dictatorship. Do you know how government w/2 parties works?

Oh please. Sadly, both parties pull this kind of crap all the time. ACA case in point.

Uh....the GOP had the house and the senate for 2 years - why not push it then? Because it's all just a drama he's manufacturing to stir up his stupid base.

+1 I'm so tired of hearing from Republican's acting like the Democrats need to give Trump what he wants and get nothing in return. He didn't get it while the Republican's were running both houses of Congress. Why didn't he shut down the government for the wall last year?

+2 Trump could throw this all back on the Democrats simply by offering something the Democratic base wants and his own base doesn't mind. Infrastructure package or middle class tax cut come to mind, among many others. It's really a pretty simple negotiating tactic. Add a sweetener, and you win. How can Trump not know this?

For the 100th time, he needs 60 votes in the senate. Senate democrats are fillibustering any bill with wall money.

FOR THE 1,000,000th TIME that's how you make an effing deal. That's how everyone in the world does it. Offer something in exchange. Except Trump. He just holds his breathe until he turns blue. Maybe that worked with his idiot parents, but it doesn't work with normal people.

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Anonymous wrote:CNN interviewed a prison officer today who said that they are working without pay and because some people are not coming in they are having to work longer shifts - some as long as 16 hours at times. He also mentioned that there has been an increase in attacks on prison guards.

Yes, vice interviewed 4 prison guards. They voted for Trump and are furious, like almost in tears.

Very sad situation. They are being put in danger.

Also the TSA union is reporting that workers are starting to quit and they warn that this could harm airport security

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/01/08/tsa-screeners-quit-government-shutdown-1087269

but 90% of government workers are Dems so who cares if the shutdown is hurting government workers. Trump sure doesn't.

So Trump isn’t President of Democrat’s? If a Democrat says “not my President”, Republicans after? I thought he was President of all Americans?

That is precisely what makes Trump so different and disturbing as compared to previous presidents, GOP and otherwise. He is completely partisan and tribal; he doesn’t care about Democrats or anyone who did not vote for him. This is something you see with the GOP more broadly at the state level. If you live in a district with a Republican Senator or House rep, they will literally hang up the phone / toss your letter / slam the door if you are a Dem. These aren’t leaders they are partisans.

Such a dangerous time for our country.

Trump is terrible but, to be fair, Democrats do this too.

Are Democrats the party of shutdowns or big government? Which is it? Can’t be both. Trump really looked stupid tonight.

I don’t recall a red state tax hike or any move to reduce disaster aid to red states during the Obama presidency

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Anonymous wrote:Well Trump to revert to his initial plan how Mexico would pay for the wall.

The key to the wall’s financing, Trump wrote in a two-page memo to the Washington Post, is threatening to halt money transfers from Mexican immigrants in the US to family back home. These remittances amount to nearly $25bn each year, roughly 2% of the Mexican gross domestic product, according to the World Bank. Cutting off these money transfers could doom the Mexican economy to recession and severely damage diplomatic relations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/apps/g/page/politics/memo-explains-how-donald-trump-plans-to-pay-for-border-wall/2007/

That memo looks like it was written by an eighth grader.

It was written by Steven Miller. Same guy who wrote trump speech tonight.

Only the best.

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Why are there so many people fleeing south American, thus creating the "crisis" today?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2013/07/11/what-are-the-nra-and-smith-and-wesson-up-to-in-latin-america/#92dee636fb7b

Gun Manufacturers, NRA and Russia in Latin Amercian from 2013.

There are no coincidences.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there so many people fleeing south American, thus creating the "crisis" today?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2013/07/11/what-are-the-nra-and-smith-and-wesson-up-to-in-latin-america/#92dee636fb7b

Gun Manufacturers, NRA and Russia in Latin Amercian from 2013.

There are no coincidences.

American policies have directly contributed to the chaos debilitating Central America. Then they try to flee violence that is caused by us and we tell them to basically f*ck off and die.

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Anonymous wrote:CNN interviewed a prison officer today who said that they are working without pay and because some people are not coming in they are having to work longer shifts - some as long as 16 hours at times. He also mentioned that there has been an increase in attacks on prison guards.

Yes, vice interviewed 4 prison guards. They voted for Trump and are furious, like almost in tears.

I cannot find it in me to be moved to any emotion for anyone who is suffering after voting for Trump. WE ALL TOLD YOU it would be bad, you didn't listen. Like, reap the whirlwind. This wasn't unexpected. This is exactly as bad as people with brains knew it would be. I do feel bad for people caught up in this BS who knew better and didn't vote for him. But if you did, IDGAF about your woes.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are there so many people fleeing south American, thus creating the "crisis" today?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/nathanielparishflannery/2013/07/11/what-are-the-nra-and-smith-and-wesson-up-to-in-latin-america/#92dee636fb7b

Gun Manufacturers, NRA and Russia in Latin Amercian from 2013.

There are no coincidences.

American policies have directly contributed to the chaos debilitating Central America. Then they try to flee violence that is caused by us and we tell them to basically f*ck off and die.

We give them hundreds of millions of dollars each year. I'd call that even. Deport and build the wall

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I cannot find it in me to be moved to any emotion for anyone who is suffering after voting for Trump. WE ALL TOLD YOU it would be bad, you didn't listen. Like, reap the whirlwind. This wasn't unexpected. This is exactly as bad as people with brains knew it would be. I do feel bad for people caught up in this BS who knew better and didn't vote for him. But if you did, IDGAF about your woes.

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Government was shut down under Republican House, but Trumpers seem to have difficulty with plain facts, just like he does.

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So youtube pp Obama said we should hold employers accountable? In your own links right? Trump is one of those employers.

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Also youtube pp, you make the point that Trump is incapable of making a deal and a budget with people who think along the similar lines as he does. Why is the great deal maker not making deals?!

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Meanwhile on C Span the local Dims are holding a press conference about Federal workers. Funny how Gov Northam is at this Presser, but not the most popular current sitting Governor of Murrland - Hogan.

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile on C Span the local Dims are holding a press conference about Federal workers. Funny how Gov Northam is at this Presser, but not the most popular current sitting Governor of Murrland - Hogan.

Do you need some spelling tips?

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Anonymous wrote:Also youtube pp, you make the point that Trump is incapable of making a deal and a budget with people who think along the similar lines as he does. Why is the great deal maker not making deals?!

youtube pp needs to learn how to embed video clips. Not that hard.