DC parents leave kids in car for wine tasting

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I've been following this thread with a lot of interest - and have commented before... But you know what I realized tonight? If I left my sleeping babies in a car a block and a half away, I wouldn't enjoy the wine tasting. It would just be too stressful. And I'm curious what kind of person would be able to enjoy going out whole leaving their kid in a precarious situation - they're educated enough to know it wasn't the best choice.

This this this. I would be so stressed out. I cannot explain it but there is an internal clock inside of me that is basically just on when the kids are awake. I basically couldn't enjoy a glass of wine unless they are safely tucked in their own crib/bed. And even then I'm super careful not to go overboard if they need me later.

Hence the IPhone monitor...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I've been following this thread with a lot of interest - and have commented before... But you know what I realized tonight? If I left my sleeping babies in a car a block and a half away, I wouldn't enjoy the wine tasting. It would just be too stressful. And I'm curious what kind of person would be able to enjoy going out whole leaving their kid in a precarious situation - they're educated enough to know it wasn't the best choice.

This this this. I would be so stressed out. I cannot explain it but there is an internal clock inside of me that is basically just on when the kids are awake. I basically couldn't enjoy a glass of wine unless they are safely tucked in their own crib/bed. And even then I'm super careful not to go overboard if they need me later.

I think this is why I'm fascinated with this story. I'm a 36 yr old FTM who lived in DC for years. Dh and I had a very active social life - and miss it, of course but life changed and that's ok. I can barely enjoy a night out if my DS is home with my parents safely tucked into his own crib. I'd that an issue, maybe? But I'm ok with it. I'm concerned about him, his safety, his fears, his comfort, his development, his happiness. I've looked up thus couple...their jobs, Facebook pages, etc. they do seem " normal" and unlike a couple you might normally see on the news that has been charged for a similar crime. I just can't wait for a statement or response from this couple. What the HELL were they (BOTH) thinking?

[Anonymous]

But they couldn't even hear the kids crying! And if something happened, it would really take a minute to get to them. I just couldn't sip Malbec and eat funky cheese without being a ball of stress.

There's just something off about these people. That's not normal behavior for kids so small. I don't even think I'd pull something like that when I was a teenager and babysitting (and my head wasn't even right then since the hippocampus isn't fully formed before 25 usually).

[Anonymous]

MUGSHOTS! WE WANT MUGSHOTS!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But they couldn't even hear the kids crying! And if something happened, it would really take a minute to get to them. I just couldn't sip Malbec and eat funky cheese without being a ball of stress.

There's just something off about these people. That's not normal behavior for kids so small. I don't even think I'd pull something like that when I was a teenager and babysitting (and my head wasn't even right then since the hippocampus isn't fully formed before 25 usually).

what if the girl only started crying when the police showed up and scared her?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But they couldn't even hear the kids crying! And if something happened, it would really take a minute to get to them. I just couldn't sip Malbec and eat funky cheese without being a ball of stress.

There's just something off about these people. That's not normal behavior for kids so small. I don't even think I'd pull something like that when I was a teenager and babysitting (and my head wasn't even right then since the hippocampus isn't fully formed before 25 usually).

what if the girl only started crying when the police showed up and scared her?

So what? It's still on the parents. They left her in the car, alone, for an hour (and again, we don't know when they were planning on returning). The cops were doing their jobs. My kids would be scared too if a strange person, cop or no, showed up and tried to open the car. WHICH IS ONE OF THE REASONS I WOULD NEVER DO THIS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've been following this thread with a lot of interest - and have commented before... But you know what I realized tonight? If I left my sleeping babies in a car a block and a half away, I wouldn't enjoy the wine tasting. It would just be too stressful. And I'm curious what kind of person would be able to enjoy going out whole leaving their kid in a precarious situation - they're educated enough to know it wasn't the best choice.

This this this. I would be so stressed out. I cannot explain it but there is an internal clock inside of me that is basically just on when the kids are awake. I basically couldn't enjoy a glass of wine unless they are safely tucked in their own crib/bed. And even then I'm super careful not to go overboard if they need me later.

I think this is why I'm fascinated with this story. I'm a 36 yr old FTM who lived in DC for years. Dh and I had a very active social life - and miss it, of course but life changed and that's ok. I can barely enjoy a night out if my DS is home with my parents safely tucked into his own crib. I'd that an issue, maybe? But I'm ok with it. I'm concerned about him, his safety, his fears, his comfort, his development, his happiness. I've looked up thus couple...their jobs, Facebook pages, etc. they do seem " normal" and unlike a couple you might normally see on the news that has been charged for a similar crime. I just can't wait for a statement or response from this couple. What the HELL were they (BOTH) thinking?

Of course, we all know that only poor, single, minority/white trash women with multiple baby daddies could ever hurt their children! The proof is in the pudding - this "normal" couple left their children in a car with an iPhone. You can rationalize it all you want but this is what happened - makes your uncomfortable does it? It must scare you that this "us" versus "them" mentality is really just smoke and mirrors?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Something tells me the PPs who feel badly that the kids are not with the (negligent) parents right now wouldn't feel remotely the same about returning two young toddlers to the care of similarly negligent parents if they were poor and/or non-white and/or obvious substance abusers. But those kids also love and miss their parents, and also have routines that are comforting.

You feel badly for these kids because they look like yours, or like your kids' preschool classmates. Same goes for the parents. They have an upscale home in a nice neighborhood. So you give them the benefit of the doubt: their crime becomes one of stupidity rather than cruelty. Whereas you've probably never thought twice about the fact that the little kids of meth heads and crack whores also cry from their parents when CPS intervenes.

I'm glad to see CPS taking a tough stance. Just because you live in a million dollar condo and drive a Volvo doesn't mean you're not a danger to your children.

The mother isn't white.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what Ris management think of all this?
They are getting lots of attention, maybe not such good attention, but their name is now all over the place.

WTOP aired a quote from Ris that they allow children and the children would have been welcomed at the wine tasting and management had no idea the kids were in the car.

Yeah -- bullshit. I'm sure kids are technically allowed, but I can imagine the looks that staff would have given any couple walking into a wine tasting with a 2 and 3 yr old. Not saying that was a reason to show up and leave the kids in the car, but now with their name everywhere Ris HAS to say "oh no we would have LOVED to have the kids here," what else are they going to say?!

I've brought my (then) 3 year into Ris before. Not for a wine tasting, but I've brought her there. They were very friendly to her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MUGSHOTS! WE WANT MUGSHOTS!

This is what bothers me the most. If they had been your regular criminals (i.e., not rich) their mugshots would be all over the place.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I've been following this thread with a lot of interest - and have commented before... But you know what I realized tonight? If I left my sleeping babies in a car a block and a half away, I wouldn't enjoy the wine tasting. It would just be too stressful. And I'm curious what kind of person would be able to enjoy going out whole leaving their kid in a precarious situation - they're educated enough to know it wasn't the best choice.

This this this. I would be so stressed out. I cannot explain it but there is an internal clock inside of me that is basically just on when the kids are awake. I basically couldn't enjoy a glass of wine unless they are safely tucked in their own crib/bed. And even then I'm super careful not to go overboard if they need me later.

I think this is why I'm fascinated with this story. I'm a 36 yr old FTM who lived in DC for years. Dh and I had a very active social life - and miss it, of course but life changed and that's ok. I can barely enjoy a night out if my DS is home with my parents safely tucked into his own crib. I'd that an issue, maybe? But I'm ok with it. I'm concerned about him, his safety, his fears, his comfort, his development, his happiness. I've looked up thus couple...their jobs, Facebook pages, etc. they do seem " normal" and unlike a couple you might normally see on the news that has been charged for a similar crime. I just can't wait for a statement or response from this couple. What the HELL were they (BOTH) thinking?

Of course, we all know that only poor, single, minority/white trash women with multiple baby daddies could ever hurt their children! The proof is in the pudding - this "normal" couple left their children in a car with an iPhone. You can rationalize it all you want but this is what happened - makes your uncomfortable does it? It must scare you that this "us" versus "them" mentality is really just smoke and mirrors?

THIS SAYS IT ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!
#staywoke
#checkthenarrative

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been following this thread with a lot of interest - and have commented before... But you know what I realized tonight? If I left my sleeping babies in a car a block and a half away, I wouldn't enjoy the wine tasting. It would just be too stressful. And I'm curious what kind of person would be able to enjoy going out whole leaving their kid in a precarious situation - they're educated enough to know it wasn't the best choice.

Are you under the impression that an undergrad or advanced degree program is where you learn to not leave a pair of toddlers alone in a car in the middle of a city in a sub-freezing weather? What an absolutely absurd, condescending, ridiculous thing to say. Being "educated" does not make you a good person or a good parent, and being "uneducated" does not make you irresponsible or negligent or a bad parent.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I wonder what Ris management think of all this?
They are getting lots of attention, maybe not such good attention, but their name is now all over the place.

WTOP aired a quote from Ris that they allow children and the children would have been welcomed at the wine tasting and management had no idea the kids were in the car.

It's not like they didn't each have a cell phone. Give the kids the phone, put on a cartoon or app and let them have screen time during the wine tasting.

Less damaging to the kids and the parents don't have to go to jail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MUGSHOTS! WE WANT MUGSHOTS!

Will you stop? DC doesn't post mugshots online.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:But they couldn't even hear the kids crying! And if something happened, it would really take a minute to get to them. I just couldn't sip Malbec and eat funky cheese without being a ball of stress.

There's just something off about these people. That's not normal behavior for kids so small. I don't even think I'd pull something like that when I was a teenager and babysitting (and my head wasn't even right then since the hippocampus isn't fully formed before 25 usually).

what if the girl only started crying when the police showed up and scared her?

Except that a passerby walked by the car, heard this child wailing, and called the cops.