What do we think will happen on Monday?

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Anonymous wrote:We can talk about optics all we want but I just saw a picture of the state of the buses in my school’s lot…. Still buried in snow, ice on the roof, etc. I don’t even know if that physically can be resolved by tomorrow morning.

Then drive the kids to school. It is ridiculous to keep school closed when the majority can get to school just fine.

We do not prioritize education in this country.

So you think 1000 cars in the kiss-n-ride lane is a good idea?

And you think waiting until March to return to school is a good idea?

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. We haven’t seen a plow for days. The street next to ours is plowed much better than ours. We only have one lane cleared and the area where our bus stop is has 8 feet of ice. It is like all the snow got pushed to that corner.

Plows are ineffective at this point. You’d need heavy construction equipment to break through. If people still think school should be closed tomorrow, they’re effectively saying it should be closed for the next several weeks.

I can drive my kids to school and would prefer school be open.

I can still acknowledge it isn’t safe for kids and buses.

It is what it is. Things aren’t changing for weeks. Canceling school tomorrow would be irrelevant to a longer term solution.

I don’t think a bus could make a turn on our street with the mountain of ice. Add in cars on opposite sides.

I hope school opens but if they do, there will definitely be some bad bus outcomes.

Then they need to figure out alternatives. Mountains of ice will take absolutely the longest to clear. You’re looking at March.

I already said I can and will drive my kids to school.

My oldest is in high school. A decade ago, we had a huge snow event and school was closed for two weeks. Our street was cleared by day 2. Fcps said roads out in western fcps weren’t cleared.

This time, our street still is in very poor condition. Can’t imagine how bad all those other streets out there where parents probably aren’t on dcum are.

Our new governor is doing a terrible job managing Vdot snow removal. She must be too busy signing all those new taxes, which ironically will add additional taxes to home maintenance and yardwork, including snow removal.

This wins for stupidest comment. WE get it you're still hurt a democrat won.

Road cleading falls directly under VDOT and the governor.

She has failed at her first big test.

I would say the exact same thing if this happened a minth ago and Youngkin was still governor.

(Adding taxes to snow removal is accurate though. The VA legislature is adding taxes to all home maintenance, renovations, repairs, appliance repairs, landscaping and yardwork, including snow removal. Virginia House Bill 900. Google it.)

Do you remember last January’s horrible snow plowing under Youngkin? It was way worse than this one. Even the board of supervisors called vdot out publicly for their failures. This one is so much better and neither have anything to do with the governor. It’s vdot’s responsibility. And the truth is we need to give them more money if we expect them to plow more than one lane and we can no longer rely on warmer temperatures melting everything in a day or two.

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Anonymous wrote:2 hour delay is almost certain for Monday, probably Tuesday as well. I doubt FCPS will be closed b/c of the PR problem, though I do worry about people getting hurt as the volume of people trying to navigate the snowcrete increases and more students (including youngkids walking/waiting for buses in the streets AND teen drivers) are out in the mix. Would be safest to stay closed Mon, delay opening Tues, and hope the increased temps make things safe from then on.

I don’t think we should keep schools closed/shortened so parents can avoid, you know, parenting. If its not safe for a teen to drive, the teens parents need to say they can’t drive and bring the kid to school themselves. If the bus stop is blocked parents need to either drive the kids or wait with them.

For all saying FCPS will get sued remember VA has contributory negligence.

It is perfectly safe for teens to drive. Not true for all teens.

Even the unplowed roads have had enough passes to make the residual ice chunky. The air is cold enough to prevent the chunky ice from becoming wet and slick. Chunky ice is very safe to drive on in this cold because your car can get traction as long as you don't drive or accelerate quickly. Ice driving becomes an issue when the ice is soft, wet, or flat, thin and glossy. The ice currently left on the roads is none of those things. It is hard, chunky and dry, which is very easy to drive on. "Very easy" Not so sure about that. All roads had enough passes? Don't know about that.

All of the main and secondary roads are bone dry and clear. Totally not true

The roads all are clear enough for us to have school. Not all. That's what is being debated here.

The only issues are parking, especially roadside parking, and sidewalks/bus stops which are often treacherous due to being unshoveled or covered with ice mounds. Not the only issues by far.

The sidewalks and bus stops are a safety hazard. very true

Vdot needs to clear all the school bus stops.

Impossible

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. We haven’t seen a plow for days. The street next to ours is plowed much better than ours. We only have one lane cleared and the area where our bus stop is has 8 feet of ice. It is like all the snow got pushed to that corner.

Plows are ineffective at this point. You’d need heavy construction equipment to break through. If people still think school should be closed tomorrow, they’re effectively saying it should be closed for the next several weeks.

I can drive my kids to school and would prefer school be open.

I can still acknowledge it isn’t safe for kids and buses.

It is what it is. Things aren’t changing for weeks. Canceling school tomorrow would be irrelevant to a longer term solution.

I don’t think a bus could make a turn on our street with the mountain of ice. Add in cars on opposite sides.

I hope school opens but if they do, there will definitely be some bad bus outcomes.

Then they need to figure out alternatives. Mountains of ice will take absolutely the longest to clear. You’re looking at March.

I already said I can and will drive my kids to school.

My oldest is in high school. A decade ago, we had a huge snow event and school was closed for two weeks. Our street was cleared by day 2. Fcps said roads out in western fcps weren’t cleared.

This time, our street still is in very poor condition. Can’t imagine how bad all those other streets out there where parents probably aren’t on dcum are.

Our new governor is doing a terrible job managing Vdot snow removal. She must be too busy signing all those new taxes, which ironically will add additional taxes to home maintenance and yardwork, including snow removal.

This wins for stupidest comment. WE get it you're still hurt a democrat won.

Road cleading falls directly under VDOT and the governor.

She has failed at her first big test.

I would say the exact same thing if this happened a minth ago and Youngkin was still governor.

(Adding taxes to snow removal is accurate though. The VA legislature is adding taxes to all home maintenance, renovations, repairs, appliance repairs, landscaping and yardwork, including snow removal. Virginia House Bill 900. Google it.)

Sure you would.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. We haven’t seen a plow for days. The street next to ours is plowed much better than ours. We only have one lane cleared and the area where our bus stop is has 8 feet of ice. It is like all the snow got pushed to that corner.

Plows are ineffective at this point. You’d need heavy construction equipment to break through. If people still think school should be closed tomorrow, they’re effectively saying it should be closed for the next several weeks.

I can drive my kids to school and would prefer school be open.

I can still acknowledge it isn’t safe for kids and buses.

It is what it is. Things aren’t changing for weeks. Canceling school tomorrow would be irrelevant to a longer term solution.

I don’t think a bus could make a turn on our street with the mountain of ice. Add in cars on opposite sides.

I hope school opens but if they do, there will definitely be some bad bus outcomes.

Then they need to figure out alternatives. Mountains of ice will take absolutely the longest to clear. You’re looking at March.

I already said I can and will drive my kids to school.

My oldest is in high school. A decade ago, we had a huge snow event and school was closed for two weeks. Our street was cleared by day 2. Fcps said roads out in western fcps weren’t cleared.

This time, our street still is in very poor condition. Can’t imagine how bad all those other streets out there where parents probably aren’t on dcum are.

Our new governor is doing a terrible job managing Vdot snow removal. She must be too busy signing all those new taxes, which ironically will add additional taxes to home maintenance and yardwork, including snow removal.

This wins for stupidest comment. WE get it you're still hurt a democrat won.

Road cleading falls directly under VDOT and the governor.

She has failed at her first big test.

I would say the exact same thing if this happened a minth ago and Youngkin was still governor.

(Adding taxes to snow removal is accurate though. The VA legislature is adding taxes to all home maintenance, renovations, repairs, appliance repairs, landscaping and yardwork, including snow removal. Virginia House Bill 900. Google it.)

Do you remember last January’s horrible snow plowing under Youngkin? It was way worse than this one. Even the board of supervisors called vdot out publicly for their failures. This one is so much better and neither have anything to do with the governor. It’s vdot’s responsibility. And the truth is we need to give them more money if we expect them to plow more than one lane and we can no longer rely on warmer temperatures melting everything in a day or two.

Thank you came here to say this.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. We haven’t seen a plow for days. The street next to ours is plowed much better than ours. We only have one lane cleared and the area where our bus stop is has 8 feet of ice. It is like all the snow got pushed to that corner.

Plows are ineffective at this point. You’d need heavy construction equipment to break through. If people still think school should be closed tomorrow, they’re effectively saying it should be closed for the next several weeks.

I can drive my kids to school and would prefer school be open.

I can still acknowledge it isn’t safe for kids and buses.

It is what it is. Things aren’t changing for weeks. Canceling school tomorrow would be irrelevant to a longer term solution.

I don’t think a bus could make a turn on our street with the mountain of ice. Add in cars on opposite sides.

I hope school opens but if they do, there will definitely be some bad bus outcomes.

Then they need to figure out alternatives. Mountains of ice will take absolutely the longest to clear. You’re looking at March.

I already said I can and will drive my kids to school.

My oldest is in high school. A decade ago, we had a huge snow event and school was closed for two weeks. Our street was cleared by day 2. Fcps said roads out in western fcps weren’t cleared.

This time, our street still is in very poor condition. Can’t imagine how bad all those other streets out there where parents probably aren’t on dcum are.

Our new governor is doing a terrible job managing Vdot snow removal. She must be too busy signing all those new taxes, which ironically will add additional taxes to home maintenance and yardwork, including snow removal.

This wins for stupidest comment. WE get it you're still hurt a democrat won.

Road cleading falls directly under VDOT and the governor.

She has failed at her first big test.

I would say the exact same thing if this happened a minth ago and Youngkin was still governor.

(Adding taxes to snow removal is accurate though. The VA legislature is adding taxes to all home maintenance, renovations, repairs, appliance repairs, landscaping and yardwork, including snow removal. Virginia House Bill 900. Google it.)

YAWN.

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Anonymous wrote:We can talk about optics all we want but I just saw a picture of the state of the buses in my school’s lot…. Still buried in snow, ice on the roof, etc. I don’t even know if that physically can be resolved by tomorrow morning.

Then drive the kids to school. It is ridiculous to keep school closed when the majority can get to school just fine.

We do not prioritize education in this country.

So you think 1000 cars in the kiss-n-ride lane is a good idea?

And you think waiting until March to return to school is a good idea?

such drama

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Anonymous wrote:We can talk about optics all we want but I just saw a picture of the state of the buses in my school’s lot…. Still buried in snow, ice on the roof, etc. I don’t even know if that physically can be resolved by tomorrow morning.

Then drive the kids to school. It is ridiculous to keep school closed when the majority can get to school just fine.

We do not prioritize education in this country.

So you think 1000 cars in the kiss-n-ride lane is a good idea?

And you think waiting until March to return to school is a good idea?

such drama

The drama involves those thinking that we have to wait for the great melt to return to school. It's not happening this month.

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Anonymous wrote:Pp here. We haven’t seen a plow for days. The street next to ours is plowed much better than ours. We only have one lane cleared and the area where our bus stop is has 8 feet of ice. It is like all the snow got pushed to that corner.

Plows are ineffective at this point. You’d need heavy construction equipment to break through. If people still think school should be closed tomorrow, they’re effectively saying it should be closed for the next several weeks.

I can drive my kids to school and would prefer school be open.

I can still acknowledge it isn’t safe for kids and buses.

It is what it is. Things aren’t changing for weeks. Canceling school tomorrow would be irrelevant to a longer term solution.

I don’t think a bus could make a turn on our street with the mountain of ice. Add in cars on opposite sides.

I hope school opens but if they do, there will definitely be some bad bus outcomes.

Then they need to figure out alternatives. Mountains of ice will take absolutely the longest to clear. You’re looking at March.

I already said I can and will drive my kids to school.

My oldest is in high school. A decade ago, we had a huge snow event and school was closed for two weeks. Our street was cleared by day 2. Fcps said roads out in western fcps weren’t cleared.

This time, our street still is in very poor condition. Can’t imagine how bad all those other streets out there where parents probably aren’t on dcum are.

Our new governor is doing a terrible job managing Vdot snow removal. She must be too busy signing all those new taxes, which ironically will add additional taxes to home maintenance and yardwork, including snow removal.

This wins for stupidest comment. WE get it you're still hurt a democrat won.

Road cleading falls directly under VDOT and the governor.

She has failed at her first big test.

I would say the exact same thing if this happened a minth ago and Youngkin was still governor.

(Adding taxes to snow removal is accurate though. The VA legislature is adding taxes to all home maintenance, renovations, repairs, appliance repairs, landscaping and yardwork, including snow removal. Virginia House Bill 900. Google it.)

You don’t think those providers should have to pay taxes?

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If you don’t think it’s safe for your children to go to school, keep them home. The rest of us value education. Kids need to be back in school. They need to finish out the semester!!!

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Anonymous wrote:We can talk about optics all we want but I just saw a picture of the state of the buses in my school’s lot…. Still buried in snow, ice on the roof, etc. I don’t even know if that physically can be resolved by tomorrow morning.

Then drive the kids to school. It is ridiculous to keep school closed when the majority can get to school just fine.

We do not prioritize education in this country.

So you think 1000 cars in the kiss-n-ride lane is a good idea?

And you think waiting until March to return to school is a good idea?

such drama

The drama involves those thinking that we have to wait for the great melt to return to school. It's not happening this month.

No the drama is coming from parents who are angry at a huge ice storm that may have FCPS using snow days that they BUILT in so they can spend more time digging out and safely getting buses and kids to school. Chill out.

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I think schools should open. For those who feel unsafe, stay home. FCPS has greatly compromised education this year with their disjointed calendar of 4 day weeks and as a result, people have a low tolerance for more closure. Had our calendar been more reasonable, the issue of tomorrow wouldn't be so heated.

FCPS needs to prioritize education and not keeping every whining teacher or parent of a snowflake happy.

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Anonymous wrote:We can talk about optics all we want but I just saw a picture of the state of the buses in my school’s lot…. Still buried in snow, ice on the roof, etc. I don’t even know if that physically can be resolved by tomorrow morning.

Then drive the kids to school. It is ridiculous to keep school closed when the majority can get to school just fine.

We do not prioritize education in this country.

Maybe if we didn’t expect schools to provide childcare, meals, healthcare and the other social services that real countries provide its citizens, we could prioritize education more. But we don’t do any of that so here we are.

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Anonymous wrote:We can talk about optics all we want but I just saw a picture of the state of the buses in my school’s lot…. Still buried in snow, ice on the roof, etc. I don’t even know if that physically can be resolved by tomorrow morning.

Then drive the kids to school. It is ridiculous to keep school closed when the majority can get to school just fine.

We do not prioritize education in this country.

So you think 1000 cars in the kiss-n-ride lane is a good idea?

And you think waiting until March to return to school is a good idea?

such drama

The drama involves those thinking that we have to wait for the great melt to return to school. It's not happening this month.

No the drama is coming from parents who are angry at a huge ice storm that may have FCPS using snow days that they BUILT in so they can spend more time digging out and safely getting buses and kids to school. Chill out.

Digging out is not going to happen in any meaningful way. It's at best ignorant, and at worst disingenuous, to think that's going to make a dent.

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Anonymous wrote:If you don’t think it’s safe for your children to go to school, keep them home. The rest of us value education. Kids need to be back in school. They need to finish out the semester!!!

Real parents and educators value safety. They will finish the semester stop with drama.