Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

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Anonymous wrote:The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

Have you looked into what happened to those recovered patients? Ventilators, icu, some got lung transplants. It wasn’t your normal flu recovery where you feel bad for a week.

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Are you suggested that all 45000 of them are in this condition? I would think either extreme cases or the first cases when they did not know how to use equipment properly etc. Also many cases were treated with blood plasma from the cured patients and supposedly WHO says that they got immediately better and entirely cured.

I was reading somewhere that the people do require long recovery even after the symptoms are gone but it is mostly rest and taking it easy letting body heal. They are weak for the most part for a very long time, matter of many weeks. Also it was said that the organs like heart, kidneys, lungs need 6 months to fully recover to pre virus condition. I don't have the link for that but that was pretty widely circulated in all kinds of medial including I think BBC..

We do have now other then just Chinese data to have some reliable information.

Recovered:
45,726
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Absolutely not all of them are in this condition. Cases include the 80 percent who do not require hospitalization. The much more dire and prolonged recovery is generally limited to the 3% or so who have at one point been deemed "critical" and have survived. Approximately a third of those in critical care do not.

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Anonymous wrote:Italy exports cases to two more countries--Portugal and Andorra, both with their first cases. This brings export countries to about 33.

Moscow also reporting its first case--Russia has not reported any new cases beyond their original 2 weeks ago. No details, but could also be related to Italy.

India also was stuck at three cases from a while ago. It now has two cases, one imported from Italy and another from the UAE. Spread to India could be a big deal considering all the back office it supplies for companies everywhere.

Moscow case also a traveler from Italy.

Jordan and Senegal also report their first cases, both Italy related.

This should make around 37 countries where the virus has been exported from Italy.

Do we know why Italy was hit so hard? Or maybe it was one guy at a popular restaurant and he gave it to all the international tourists?
Neighbors took a week vacation to the usual tourist spots two weeks ago. Guess we'll see what happens.

Because they gave masks away! Oh no, wait, they masks don't work. I don't know then.. maybe this virus is a sophisticated creature, it likes to hang out in ski chalets, Italian restaurants.. sip glass of vine.. enjoy the Italian sunsets..

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

So strange they did not immediately shut down visitation and new patients.

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Anonymous wrote:The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

Have you looked into what happened to those recovered patients? Ventilators, icu, some got lung transplants. It wasn’t your normal flu recovery where you feel bad for a week.

Sh@t

Are you suggested that all 45000 of them are in this condition? I would think either extreme cases or the first cases when they did not know how to use equipment properly etc. Also many cases were treated with blood plasma from the cured patients and supposedly WHO says that they got immediately better and entirely cured.

I was reading somewhere that the people do require long recovery even after the symptoms are gone but it is mostly rest and taking it easy letting body heal. They are weak for the most part for a very long time, matter of many weeks. Also it was said that the organs like heart, kidneys, lungs need 6 months to fully recover to pre virus condition. I don't have the link for that but that was pretty widely circulated in all kinds of medial including I think BBC..

We do have now other then just Chinese data to have some reliable information.

Recovered:
45,726
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Absolutely not all of them are in this condition. Cases include the 80 percent who do not require hospitalization. The much more dire and prolonged recovery is generally limited to the 3% or so who have at one point been deemed "critical" and have survived. Approximately a third of those in critical care do not.

45,726 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged

80.9% of infections are mild (with flu-like symptoms) and can recover at home.
13.8% are severe, developing severe diseases including pneumonia and shortness of breath.
4.7% as critical and can include: respiratory failure, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
in about 2% of reported cases the virus is fatal.
Risk of death increases the older you are.
Relatively few cases are seen among children.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms/#mild

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

Mighty kind of them. Where was local government?

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

So strange they did not immediately shut down visitation and new patients.

At lest this group is promising health-wise. Fire fighters are a strong bunch. Worth following closely.
This is pretty strange occurrence.. two the most opposite groups health wise exchanged the virus and now we will see how each will fare. Quite an epidemiological experiment the virus undertook.

Wishing speedy recovery and safe one to all affected. It must suck on so many levels to get this.

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

So strange they did not immediately shut down visitation and new patients.

I read where a family member of a resident at the facility said that they had called them to tell them their dad was symptomatic and asked the family member not to come visit him.

It's possible that the facility has gone from recommending that no one come visit to outright shutting down visitation and new patients.

The idea that 19 of those firefighters are experiencing symptoms actually freaks me out a little. It also makes me positive that there is zero way to contain this.

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

And can we test them yet? Still waiting on more tests?

Are Chinese vendors selling them on Amazon yet?

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Praying for an early spring and warm, sunny weather.

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Anonymous wrote:The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

Have you looked into what happened to those recovered patients? Ventilators, icu, some got lung transplants. It wasn’t your normal flu recovery where you feel bad for a week.

Sh@t

Are you suggested that all 45000 of them are in this condition? I would think either extreme cases or the first cases when they did not know how to use equipment properly etc. Also many cases were treated with blood plasma from the cured patients and supposedly WHO says that they got immediately better and entirely cured.

I was reading somewhere that the people do require long recovery even after the symptoms are gone but it is mostly rest and taking it easy letting body heal. They are weak for the most part for a very long time, matter of many weeks. Also it was said that the organs like heart, kidneys, lungs need 6 months to fully recover to pre virus condition. I don't have the link for that but that was pretty widely circulated in all kinds of medial including I think BBC..

We do have now other then just Chinese data to have some reliable information.

Recovered:
45,726
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Absolutely not all of them are in this condition. Cases include the 80 percent who do not require hospitalization. The much more dire and prolonged recovery is generally limited to the 3% or so who have at one point been deemed "critical" and have survived. Approximately a third of those in critical care do not.

45,726 (94%)
Recovered / Discharged

80.9% of infections are mild (with flu-like symptoms) and can recover at home.
13.8% are severe, developing severe diseases including pneumonia and shortness of breath.
4.7% as critical and can include: respiratory failure, septic shock, and multi-organ failure.
in about 2% of reported cases the virus is fatal.
Risk of death increases the older you are.
Relatively few cases are seen among children.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-symptoms/#mild

If 80.9% cases are mlld, it's either getting weaker in transmission or, while novel, our bodies DO recognize it and our immune system responds. Or both.

If there are relatively few cases seen among children, that tells me young, healthy lungs are key.

I'm reading that China CDC sources as saying that less than 2 percent of the population is vaccinated against the seasonal flu. That makes me go hmmmm.

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Anonymous wrote:For people who have autoimmune illnesses and are concerned about their risk, I recommend the reddit thread below.

This is the only thing I have seen on this aspect, but unfortunately the end answer seems to be no one really knows. Interestingly, Plaquenil, a drug people with some types of autoimmune take, has been experimented with in China as a treatment for COVID-19.

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/fbk41g/any_peerreviewed_sources_suggest_that_people_with/

Pre-existing conditions
Pre-existing illnesses that put patients at higher risk:
cardiovascular disease
diabetes
chronic respiratory disease
hypertension




https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

So strange they did not immediately shut down visitation and new patients.

I read where a family member of a resident at the facility said that they had called them to tell them their dad was symptomatic and asked the family member not to come visit him.

It's possible that the facility has gone from recommending that no one come visit to outright shutting down visitation and new patients.

The idea that 19 of those firefighters are experiencing symptoms actually freaks me out a little. It also makes me positive that there is zero way to contain this.

Limiting visitors isn’t as easy as it seems. My parents are both in facilities - dad in nursing home mom in assisted living - and we do a lot of care for my dad who has dementia. If we stopped coming he would get agitated and start falling out of bed, etc. So while stopping visits makes good sense from the virus point of view it would be just terrible for patient care. I guess that’s the kind of trade off many facilities will have to make. ?

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Anonymous wrote:Praying for an early spring and warm, sunny weather.

Or....more practically you could push for more testing and quarantines...if you want something that actually helps.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:19 firefighters who responded to the Life Care nursing home in Washington are showing symptoms. Nineteen.

Also, Life Care FINALLY stopped accepting visitors and new patients this afternoon.

So strange they did not immediately shut down visitation and new patients.

At lest this group is promising health-wise. Fire fighters are a strong bunch. Worth following closely.
This is pretty strange occurrence.. two the most opposite groups health wise exchanged the virus and now we will see how each will fare. Quite an epidemiological experiment the virus undertook.

Wishing speedy recovery and safe one to all affected. It must suck on so many levels to get this.

Seems like firefighters, despite being otherwise strong, would likely have higher than average incidence of some kind of lung damage due to accidental smoke inhalation while on the job. So I'm not sure what this would tell us.