Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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For people who have autoimmune illnesses and are concerned about their risk, I recommend the reddit thread below.

This is the only thing I have seen on this aspect, but unfortunately the end answer seems to be no one really knows. Interestingly, Plaquenil, a drug people with some types of autoimmune take, has been experimented with in China as a treatment for COVID-19.

https://www.reddit.com/r/COVID19/comments/fbk41g/any_peerreviewed_sources_suggest_that_people_with/

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Anonymous wrote:Italy exports cases to two more countries--Portugal and Andorra, both with their first cases. This brings export countries to about 33.

Moscow also reporting its first case--Russia has not reported any new cases beyond their original 2 weeks ago. No details, but could also be related to Italy.

India also was stuck at three cases from a while ago. It now has two cases, one imported from Italy and another from the UAE. Spread to India could be a big deal considering all the back office it supplies for companies everywhere.

Moscow case also a traveler from Italy.

Jordan and Senegal also report their first cases, both Italy related.

This should make around 37 countries where the virus has been exported from Italy.

Do we know why Italy was hit so hard? Or maybe it was one guy at a popular restaurant and he gave it to all the international tourists?
Neighbors took a week vacation to the usual tourist spots two weeks ago. Guess we'll see what happens.

I understand that Patient 1 gave it to his pregnant wife and his running partner. The running partner gave it to his father, who then passed it on to various people at a bar he frequented.

In addition, Patient 1 went to an emergency room where he infected people and later checked into the hospital, where he infected hospital staff, who in turn infected patients. Patient 1 was tested only when he remembered that he had had dinner with a colleague who had been to China.

Authorities thought the colleague might be Patient Zero, but he has been tested multiple times and each time has come out negative. At this point the Italian authorities have given up the hunt for Patient Zero.

Patient 1 is said to be in critical condition despite being young and fit. Although he is not Patient Zero, he was the source of much of the spread.

I don't think it's 100% clear that Patient 1 gave it to all the people in the hospital. 8 people at the hospital were diagnosed on 2/21 --the day after after Patient 1 was diagnosed on 2/20, Patient 1 had been to the hospital with a cold on 2/15, felt better (and went running and I think also played soccer with his rec team, I read), and then on 2/19 got very sick. It seems pretty unlikely that he infected 8 people (including 3 patients) during his 2/15 visit, and that they were all testing positive within 5 days. Seems much more likely that the unknown Patient 0 was at the hospital at some point in early February, and infected a health care worker there, who unknowingly spread it around the hospital including to Patient 1 when he visited on 2/15. I feel bad for that Patient 1, as he gave it to his pregnant wife and his kid, and he was in critical care himself. I haven't heard any further reports on whether he has recovered. He worked for Unilever, I think.

Very comprehensive. Interesting theory about Patient 0.

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Anonymous wrote:Most of us are not saying that the world is ending and that everyone should panic. What we are saying is that in order to slow the spread of this virus and not overwhelm the healthcare facilities, we need to implement basic social distancing measures such as encouraging people who can work remotely to do so and implementing remote learning for middle and high school students, for example. I’m so tired of hearing people say that we must choose between ignoring the situation and panicking. We should be making rational decisions based on the spread of this in other countries and the impacts we’ve seen there.

I agree with you. Unfortunately, that is not the approach the majority of people are taking. It is panic, speculation and over the top reaction.

I'm not seeing that. The majority of people are making jokes about it.

+1. Mostly all I'm seeing is people calling anyone suggesting mild precautions crazy. And a lot of people excited to take advantage of low cost fare to Europe!

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People minimizing this are just as bad as people buying all the hand sanitizer and stocking three months food. This will all blow over in a year or two but a non-trivial number of people will die.

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The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

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Anonymous wrote:The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

Have you looked into what happened to those recovered patients? Ventilators, icu, some got lung transplants. It wasn’t your normal flu recovery where you feel bad for a week.

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Anonymous wrote:The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

Have you looked into what happened to those recovered patients? Ventilators, icu, some got lung transplants. It wasn’t your normal flu recovery where you feel bad for a week.

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2% death rate is pretty fricking high for the 21st century!!

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Anonymous wrote:2% death rate is pretty fricking high for the 21st century!!

Its actually higher than 2%. Its 2% if you take number of deaths thus far divided by number of people infectedt till today. Say 200 people died and 10k infected till today (took a random/round number) you get 2%. Problem is that you're comparing to the wrong cohort. Those who died got infected probably approx 3-4 week prior.....when there were say 2k infected. 200 divided by 2k is 10%. Most news outlets are comparing with the wrong cohorts which makes the this virus appear less severe than it really is. Only in about 3-4 weeks will you find the fatality rate for those 10k.

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Anonymous wrote:According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.

Washington State is currently at 33% fatality.

What is your suggestion? Ignore ?don't forget, your stats are in addition to the flu risks. That sucks.

Yes but those are nursing home patients with one foot already in the grave before they got it.

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New Hampshire case is an employee of Dartmouth-Hitchcock Medical Center.

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-03-02-20-intl-hnk/index.html

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The number of medical professionals being infected is seriously concerning. That suggests that basic precuations like hand washing are really insufficient. I hope cdc is really interviewing these medical folks to find out what they are and are not doing.

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the CDC no longer telling the public how many people they are testing?

you know why.

No, tell us.

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Anonymous wrote:The recovery stats are great, unless you are one of the people who dies.

Have you looked into what happened to those recovered patients? Ventilators, icu, some got lung transplants. It wasn’t your normal flu recovery where you feel bad for a week.

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Are you suggested that all 45000 of them are in this condition? I would think either extreme cases or the first cases when they did not know how to use equipment properly etc. Also many cases were treated with blood plasma from the cured patients and supposedly WHO says that they got immediately better and entirely cured.

I was reading somewhere that the people do require long recovery even after the symptoms are gone but it is mostly rest and taking it easy letting body heal. They are weak for the most part for a very long time, matter of many weeks. Also it was said that the organs like heart, kidneys, lungs need 6 months to fully recover to pre virus condition. I don't have the link for that but that was pretty widely circulated in all kinds of medial including I think BBC..

We do have now other then just Chinese data to have some reliable information.

Recovered:
45,726
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Anonymous wrote:According to the CDC: Most people who fall ill recover within two weeks. People with more severe cases generally recover in three to six weeks.

Based on data from roughly 17,000 reports, about 82 percent of the cases of novel coronavirus are considered mild, 15 percent are severe, 3 percent are critical, and less than 2 percent are fatal, according to Dr. Maria Van Kerkhove, an epidemiologist who shared those numbers at a WHO press briefing on Feb. 7.

Seriously, people need to calm the F down.

Washington State is currently at 33% fatality.

What is your suggestion? Ignore ?don't forget, your stats are in addition to the flu risks. That sucks.

Yes but those are nursing home patients with one foot already in the grave before they got it.

Perhaps before anyone else will be quarantined, the nursing homes should go on lockdown with piles of supply so the patients and the workers would be equally safe from this until this passes. I know, not doable but what a thought right?...