Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.

All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.

The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.

That’s the definition of trans? What’s the current status of transition?

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.

All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.

The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.

Somebody tell Peter Thiel - being gay is leftist

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin

Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.

Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?

Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.

Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

the shooter followed these people online. not a waste of space, those were his peeps.

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.

All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.

The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.

Who cares.

A person killed another person. If the killer is not declares mentally ill, he will go to jail. If he is, he will go to an insane asylum. The end. Nothing else me to care about. In the meanwhile I don't need to care about any of it, the justice system has its job and I will focus on my own life.

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Anonymous wrote:So posters are suggesting that the CIA hired Robinson to be a hacker and also kill Kirk then left him to rot in jail? I thought cyber operations were out of a different agency but ok. Tell me more of this conspiracy.

Someone else killed Charlie Kirk, not Tyler Robinson.

What makes you think this?

I think we need to see actual evidence of Tyler being the murderer. How do we know he did this? Is there video of him shooting the gun?

Why would there be video of him shooting the gun? He's higher up than any security cameras that would have been in the area.

Then there’s absolutely no proof. Something or someone lured him to the roof for hopes of payment probably, no one ended up being there but he waited. The shot rang out, Charlie was killed, Tyler realized what was happening, realized people saw him on the roof, they would suspect him, he sprinted and jumped off the roof.

The proof is his own confession.

He hasn't confessed. We truly know far less about this than we think. Everything right now is just speculation and assumptions

If he didn't confess to his father, why would his father have turned him in? Would you turn in your own son if he hadn't confessed to you?

We don't actually know what his conversation with his father and the priest was.

Spoken like someone who is not a parent.

Nope. Spoken like someone who has realized that the hard facts are much more thin than we all think.

The only things we appear to know are that 1) he was familiar with gamer, furry and internet memes 2) his family is MAGA 3) that he has a trans roommate and 4) that he had a conversation with his parents and turned himself in when he became a person of interest.

Everything else is speculation, assumptions and inferences. We still don't even have a clue what the motive might have been.

We actually do not know this from official sources.

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.

All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.

The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.

That’s the definition of trans? What’s the current status of transition?

They're definitely supplementing or taking hormones. Doctor's appointments for surgery and evaluation can take months so who knows. But they are definitely supplementing or using hormone therapy

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‪NY Times Pitchbot‬

Whether it's Joe Biden condemning the killing of Charlie Kirk in 2025 or Charlie Kirk calling for the killing of Joe Biden in 2024, both men have issued strong words about the other's killing.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!

When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.

Here’s one. This person’s comments are gross - and they are within their right to free speech to say them. But they need to accept the social and professional consequences of their statements. No decent company is going to condone this sort of speech. It’s violent and full of hate.

https://mol.im/a/15100227

When you say "social consequences" are you referring to the hundreds of death threats she's received? It's wild you are calling for people to accept that as normal. It's not normal. It's hateful and violent. Her comments were crude but not incorrect. As a wise man said recently, the Bible does not call on us to honor evil.

Social consequences = if you spew vile comments and celebrate violence and murder, expect to lose some friends.

Also, btw...if you view this person's comments as "not incorrect" I would say that you are part of the problem and maybe you need to actually read the bible instead of quoting others that have.

Quotes from Gretchen Felker-Martin:
"I hope the bullet's OK" (after Kirk's murder last Wednesday.)
"Can pretty safely state that bin Laden and I did not, uh, agree on much, but blowing up the World Trade Center is probably the most principled and defensible thing he did,"

I have no idea who this person is. Are the an elected official? Someone who's voice carries any weight or legitimacy?

She writes horror, films and books.

She was harassed by the alt right in something called comicgate

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comicsgate

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Anonymous wrote:‪NY Times Pitchbot‬

Whether it's Joe Biden condemning the killing of Charlie Kirk in 2025 or Charlie Kirk calling for the killing of Joe Biden in 2024, both men have issued strong words about the other's killing.

Lolz

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The update this morning is even more damning. This kid was of the right. The statements make it clear they have no credible link to the left in this kid’s note or in the statements of those they’ve spoken to.

If the outcome of this is that Laura Loomer is detained on a mental health hold (again) pending investigation for incitement of terror, that would be a silver lining in an otherwise tragic situation.

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Anonymous wrote:All people on her talking about "leftist ideology", explain specifically what you mean.

Tell us outright, do you believe this man's motivations, whatever they may have been, justify the calls by POTUS and GOP leaders for violence, retribution, and a "war" on regular Democrats and liberals who have killed/harmed no one?

Do you have any qualms about the vitriol spewed by the GOP in the wake of this murder?

Cmon all you posting about "leftys". What is your answer. What do you mean, specifically, about leftist ideology?

Is inciting political violence against a large group of people not at all related to this murder okay with you?

Are death threats appropriate from anyone ever, including our POTUS or randos online who don't like what someone said about Kirk?

And yet, from January 6, school shootings, the Trump "assassinators" and the Minnesota shooter, most of the violence is coming from ... Trump supporters.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!

When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.

Here’s one. This person’s comments are gross - and they are within their right to free speech to say them. But they need to accept the social and professional consequences of their statements. No decent company is going to condone this sort of speech. It’s violent and full of hate.

https://mol.im/a/15100227

When you say "social consequences" are you referring to the hundreds of death threats she's received? It's wild you are calling for people to accept that as normal. It's not normal. It's hateful and violent. Her comments were crude but not incorrect. As a wise man said recently, the Bible does not call on us to honor evil.

Social consequences = if you spew vile comments and celebrate violence and murder, expect to lose some friends.

Also, btw...if you view this person's comments as "not incorrect" I would say that you are part of the problem and maybe you need to actually read the bible instead of quoting others that have.

Quotes from Gretchen Felker-Martin:
"I hope the bullet's OK" (after Kirk's murder last Wednesday.)
"Can pretty safely state that bin Laden and I did not, uh, agree on much, but blowing up the World Trade Center is probably the most principled and defensible thing he did,"

Saying "I hope the bullet's ok" to me means she doesn't care he was killed. Kirk himself explicitly said, quite soon after killings of children, that he was okay with gun deaths.

Anyway, you haven't mentioned the death threats. A death threat is a violent act. Saying you think 9/11 is defensible is not a statement many people would like or agree with, but that statement is not a violent act. She didn't threaten or directly cause violence against anyone. Doxxing someone online is a violent act. You are tangibly putting people in danger with that act. And you haven't even acknowledged that it is happening (though I am sure that you know it is) which tells me you support it.

Yes, death threats are wrong and should be investigated - I've said that upthread (and bolded it if you want to read back).

But Gretchen losing their job over their offensive statements? Not wrong. Good on DC Comics.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

like this Canadian journalist

https://thetyee.ca/Opinion/2025/09/15/Dangerous-Targeting-Canadian-Journalist/Canadian journalist Rachel Gilmore took to social media to share insights based on years of reporting, writing that she was concerned some fans of Kirk on the far right who are “aching for more violence, could turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ no matter who was behind the actual shooting?”

Conservative MP Andrew Scheer swiftly reposted Gilmore’s comments, saying she was “twisted” and had “so much hate in her.” Other Canadian Conservatives also weighed in or reposted Scheer’s comment, while a screenshot of another post Gilmore made was circulated by right-wing influencers.

Hours later, Gilmore’s name was the first to appear on a website called “Expose Charlie’s Murderers,” part of an effort by right-wing figures to identify people they viewed as having celebrated Kirk’s killing. In many cases, MAGA supporters have called for those people to lose their jobs.

Gilmore then received death and rape threats, including threats that say, “We know where you live.”

As the U.S. tech magazine Wired reported, Gilmore’s initial analysis was accurate: in the hours following the shooting, high-profile figures in the MAGA movement, as well as far-right extremists, posted calls for war or civil war, to punish Democrats for “terrorism,” named “the left” as “the party of murder” and called to restart far-right militias.

This is the truly scary part. Ethical journalists are being silenced for doing their jobs.

Meh. It could be worse. They could get shot in the neck.

That lady journalist doesn't deserve death threats. Her statements are full of lies but as long as she's just writing her glorified opinion piece, she's within her right.
If they identify the people that sent her the alleged death threats, of course those people should be prosecuted.

But again, this is entirely different. People cheering on a murder of an innocent and doing so in a public format should accept the social and professional consequences to their own behavior. This shouldn't be political. It works both ways!

When you say "this" what specifically are you referring to? Presumably these are online statements, so I assume you have links.

Here’s one. This person’s comments are gross - and they are within their right to free speech to say them. But they need to accept the social and professional consequences of their statements. No decent company is going to condone this sort of speech. It’s violent and full of hate.

https://mol.im/a/15100227

When you say "social consequences" are you referring to the hundreds of death threats she's received? It's wild you are calling for people to accept that as normal. It's not normal. It's hateful and violent. Her comments were crude but not incorrect. As a wise man said recently, the Bible does not call on us to honor evil.

Social consequences = if you spew vile comments and celebrate violence and murder, expect to lose some friends.

Also, btw...if you view this person's comments as "not incorrect" I would say that you are part of the problem and maybe you need to actually read the bible instead of quoting others that have.

Quotes from Gretchen Felker-Martin:
"I hope the bullet's OK" (after Kirk's murder last Wednesday.)
"Can pretty safely state that bin Laden and I did not, uh, agree on much, but blowing up the World Trade Center is probably the most principled and defensible thing he did,"

I have no idea who this person is. Are the an elected official? Someone who's voice carries any weight or legitimacy?

She is a trans woman which of course means whatever she says is punishable by death threats to her and anyone they associate with her which is all "leftists" s/

So not an elected official or anyone of any intellectual heft. I guess the right can go find some ill or weird people and just attribute it to being "leftist" and yet cannot acknowledge that actual elected democrats and actual lefty thought leaders have uniformly condemned this murder in a respectable manner, which is more than the murdered Minnesota politician received from the right.

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.

All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.

The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.

Who cares.

A person killed another person. If the killer is not declares mentally ill, he will go to jail. If he is, he will go to an insane asylum. The end. Nothing else me to care about. In the meanwhile I don't need to care about any of it, the justice system has its job and I will focus on my own life.

Alt-right cares

They need a boogeyman to keep their dim base.

Right now trans people are the boogeyman.

A white, male, raised conservative killed CK. PERIOD. It doesn’t help their gun loving 2 hereto parent religious family cause so they need to blame the roommate who isn’t involved, never committed an act of violence and is more cooperative than most.

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https://www.usermag.co/p/conservatives-are-doxxing-innocent-people-over-charlie-kirk-ali-nasrati

Right wing influencers are blasting people's names and personal details out to millions before ever verifying their claims.