Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

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Anonymous wrote:So the shooter had a boyfriend who was transitioning M->F.

Do I have that correct? It's all over the news.

It looks like there's not actually proof that it's his boyfriend or that he's MtF. But if there's actual evidence out there, I would honestly like to see it.

All MAGA has is a blurry instragram post of the roommate donning an anime costume begetting a furrie, which would put them in the AltRight, not the left.

The FBI has confirmed it. They have questioned/are questioning the roommate. So I’m pretty sure they aren’t wrong.

The FBI is being run by partisan hacks now who have a vested interest in stocking the misinformation, so take it all with a grain of salt.

Their neighbors confirmed it. Saw the boy boy couple holding hands and kissing in their walks.

Are the neighbors in the FBI?

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Anonymous wrote:https://www.usermag.co/p/conservatives-are-doxxing-innocent-people-over-charlie-kirk-ali-nasrati

Right wing influencers are blasting people's names and personal details out to millions before ever verifying their claims.

The scariest thing was that some guy had his picture and name stolen by another person and the impersonator was the one doing the posting. I made the right decision deleting twitter years ago.

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Welcome to Trump’s America, where they fire Karen Attiah and Matthew Dowd for pointing out Charlie Kirk’s right-wing extremism and applaud Brian Kilmeade for suggesting we murder the homeless.

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Anonymous wrote:All people on her talking about "leftist ideology", explain specifically what you mean.

Tell us outright, do you believe this man's motivations, whatever they may have been, justify the calls by POTUS and GOP leaders for violence, retribution, and a "war" on regular Democrats and liberals who have killed/harmed no one?

Do you have any qualms about the vitriol spewed by the GOP in the wake of this murder?

Cmon all you posting about "leftys". What is your answer. What do you mean, specifically, about leftist ideology?

Is inciting political violence against a large group of people not at all related to this murder okay with you?

Are death threats appropriate from anyone ever, including our POTUS or randos online who don't like what someone said about Kirk?

And yet, from January 6, school shootings, the Trump "assassinators" and the Minnesota shooter, most of the violence is coming from ... Trump supporters.

+1 And Trump supporters including Charlie Kirk in particular made Kyle Rittenhouse into a celebrity.

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Right wing influencers are blasting people's names and personal details out to millions before ever verifying their claims.

The scariest thing was that some guy had his picture and name stolen by another person and the impersonator was the one doing the posting. I made the right decision deleting twitter years ago.

Also it’s blatantly obvious that foreign adversaries are using this to stoke unrest on the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:The update this morning is even more damning. This kid was of the right. The statements make it clear they have no credible link to the left in this kid’s note or in the statements of those they’ve spoken to.

If the outcome of this is that Laura Loomer is detained on a mental health hold (again) pending investigation for incitement of terror, that would be a silver lining in an otherwise tragic situation.

I'm fine if Loomer gets detained, but the kid's a lefty. Just accept that and move on. All your wishing and hoping can't make it go away.

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Anonymous wrote:The update this morning is even more damning. This kid was of the right. The statements make it clear they have no credible link to the left in this kid’s note or in the statements of those they’ve spoken to.

If the outcome of this is that Laura Loomer is detained on a mental health hold (again) pending investigation for incitement of terror, that would be a silver lining in an otherwise tragic situation.

I'm fine if Loomer gets detained, but the kid's a lefty. Just accept that and move on. All your wishing and hoping can't make it go away.

Maybe. Can you provide some evidence?

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Anonymous wrote:The update this morning is even more damning. This kid was of the right. The statements make it clear they have no credible link to the left in this kid’s note or in the statements of those they’ve spoken to.

If the outcome of this is that Laura Loomer is detained on a mental health hold (again) pending investigation for incitement of terror, that would be a silver lining in an otherwise tragic situation.

I'm fine if Loomer gets detained, but the kid's a lefty. Just accept that and move on. All your wishing and hoping can't make it go away.

Keep telling yourself that. It just exposes that you know nothing about this particular corner of the internet.

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Anonymous wrote:The update this morning is even more damning. This kid was of the right. The statements make it clear they have no credible link to the left in this kid’s note or in the statements of those they’ve spoken to.

If the outcome of this is that Laura Loomer is detained on a mental health hold (again) pending investigation for incitement of terror, that would be a silver lining in an otherwise tragic situation.

I'm fine if Loomer gets detained, but the kid's a lefty. Just accept that and move on. All your wishing and hoping can't make it go away.

Let’s live in your fantasy world for a minute.

What is it do you think that you’ve won if he is not a far right extremist?

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Anonymous wrote:‪NY Times Pitchbot‬

Whether it's Joe Biden condemning the killing of Charlie Kirk in 2025 or Charlie Kirk calling for the killing of Joe Biden in 2024, both men have issued strong words about the other's killing.

Nailed it.

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This is an odd takeaway. No one I know thinks he deserves to die. But there were other people who died that day, like those shot in Colorado, who we will mourn more.

There’s a whole website calling a database full of people “murderers” and most of them simply posted his views online.

You mean the website run by the gay trans pro-maga darling of the GOP?

https://www.advocate.com/politics/who-is-scott-presler

Do you think this is a gotcha? It's not. The fact that he's gay doesn't change the fact that MAGA is raring to have a witch hunt for people having a rational reaction to the death of someone who hated most Americans.

Earlier this morning, someone posted on this thread that because the shooter was gay, he was a liberal. Are you saying that is false?

There are lots of gay republicans. Milo Yianapolis was to the right of Charlie Kirk. He’s gay. They even have a group called GOP Proud and they were the first to endorse Trump. Caitlyn Jenner is trans and also a Republican

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Anonymous wrote:I guess the legacy of Charlie Kirk will be "sure, disagree with me, but if you do you'll lose your job"

Celebrating an innocent man being murdered isn't just disagreeing with someone. It's disgusting and we should be doing better. These lunatics losing their jobs is a GOOD thing for society.

The pastor at Alfred Street Baptist wasn't celebrating his death at all. Yet according to a PP, he now has a target on his back.

According to a lot of people anyone that doesn't put Charlie Kirk on a pedestal is "celebrating his death". No, I don't care that he died and it certainly doesn't make me happy. But he was horrible. Unfortunately there are many more like him.

Well unless you put out a tik tok talking about how happy you are that he died, I wouldn't worry. The people who are losing their jobs are gleefully celebrating murder. I think we can all agree that murder is a tragedy that shouldn't be celebrated or laughed about.

People were showing happiness when the liberal Supreme Court justices died.

They were happy when George Floyd died.

And that is their right. Freedom of Speech.

Freedom of speech - sure. But don't get upset when acting like an evil nutcase gets you ostracized - socially and professionally.

Correct, freedom of speech.

Correct, no one should be killing someone because they don’t like what they said or posted.

Also correct, no one should be cheering an assassination murder.

Shooting someone down due to their public speech or what sector they work in is not OK. And not to be praised.

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Anonymous wrote:Tyler Robinson is a radicalized leftist and yet another violent, pro-trans, assassin:

https://www.ngocomment.com/p/unmasking-luna-charlie-kirk-assassin

Think of what could have been if he hadn’t been twisted and abused by far right extremism. If only he had been allowed to become who he was.

We need to investigate all of the these religious cults.

Are you claiming he did not live up to his full extreme left potential? Maybe could have murdered more innocents for their right wing beliefs?

Nick Fuentes has repeatedly attacked Charlie Kirk—called him a neocon, globalist, and fascist. MAGA needs to accept there's a decent likelihood the shooter was influenced by that, or by Loomer's attacks, and not some made-up pro-trans ideology they've concocted.

Lol

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

Seems more relevant than ever. Investigators are pointing to gaming and internet subculture for source of radicalization. Cox and Patel have loosely called that leftwing. We’ve seen no real evidence yet.

R u a bot?

You’re still hoping your Alt Right killing Alt Right for not being Alt Right enough for you to gloat over, is still a thing.

What a waste of space.

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Anonymous wrote:If Lance and Tyler were this flaming, furry bizarre counterculture couple, they would have left Utah.

+1 This is what I said as soon as Robinson was identified. If he were actually a lefty he would have take his great ACT score and 4.0 GPA and gone anywhere else. For free. Now people are trying to convince us that his one semester at Utah State of all places radicalized him. Come the f*** on.

The shooter went to USU for one semester 3 years ago. He wasn't there long enough to get "indoctrinated" (ie educated and exposed to people of different backgrounds and cultures)

I read that his single semester was online. He spent a few months logging into blackboard, that’s it.

That seems likely given COVID. Lots of kids dropped out then, even ones who would have been successful otherwise. The strong ones got back on track. Many others didn't.

We are seeing the results of the seeds that were planted during Covid. Whatever content people took in when we are all locked in the house has now fruited into a lot of the intense beliefs and online behaviors we see now. We were all chronically online that year, and everyone didn’t come out the same on the other side.

That’s when Tyler and Lance started hacking into domestic and foreign govt agencies probably.

When were they hired by the foreign governments? Because there's literally zero connection between hacking into an agency's computer and being hired by them, usually.

They could have been hired after freshman year.

No they worked for the CIA or were independent. They weren’t assisting foreign governments. God…

Why would the CIA have hired them? That is also crazy talk. They don't seem very stable. Or discreet.

He is a brilliant hacker, he can hack into anything he wants.

But cyber operations is not big at CIA. It’s another agency.

Ok NSA whatever. He could have been an independent contractor.

This is just silly talk. I hope you are being sarcastic. If not, seek help.

Silly talk? Who do you think works for these agencies?

Not dropouts of fourth-tier regional universities, that's for sure.

Thank you. Had to be said.