Federal judge rules that admissions changes at nation’s top public school discriminate against Asian

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Yup. This district Court got people really excited. But don’t dream of those decals just yet! Miles to go in fight over legal outcomes.

Is the judge a Trump appointee?

Reagan.

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Anonymous wrote:Here is Asian "privilege" for you - privilege of being attacked and assaulted :

74% of Asian American women experienced racism in past year, new report says

As anti-Asian attacks on Asian American and Pacific Islanders continue to rise, a report released Thursday underscores how women in the racial group endure a disproportionate number of such incidents.

The research, spearheaded by the National Asian Pacific American Women’s Forum, revealed that 74 percent of Asian American and Pacific Islander women reported having personally experienced racism or discrimination in the last 12 months, roughly the time since the Atlanta-area spa shootings, in which eight people, most of them Asian women, were murdered, the report pointed out.

https://news.yahoo.com/74-asian-american-women-experienced-231404121.html

If TJ had discriminated against white students there would have been swift political backlash against officials involved. I'm not sure why Asian voters here haven't organized the way they have in CA where they are jettisoning the same racist, progressive politicians in their state.

You should be glad that t's never been legal to use race as an admission factor.

Sure it is, under Supreme Court law regarding college admissions.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

by district court? Maybe, maybe not.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

by district court? Maybe, maybe not.

While I’m sure the school board would be thrilled to get a stay from Judge Hilton, this is really just to tee up a stay motion with the Fourth Circuit.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

by district court? Maybe, maybe not.

While I’m sure the school board would be thrilled to get a stay from Judge Hilton, this is really just to tee up a stay motion with the Fourth Circuit.

Yep. The stay motion here will be denied, and will be even more urgent - and therefore more likely to succeed in the public interest - at the Fourth Circuit.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

by district court? Maybe, maybe not.

While I’m sure the school board would be thrilled to get a stay from Judge Hilton, this is really just to tee up a stay motion with the Fourth Circuit.

Yep. The stay motion here will be denied, and will be even more urgent - and therefore more likely to succeed in the public interest - at the Fourth Circuit.

DP. I doubt the judge will grant the stay. But I tend to think the appellate court will--at least in some form. But even if it doesn't, the decision is likely to be reversed in part and remanded. It's true that there is a solid liberal majority on the Fourth Circuit, if it comes down to en banc review, but I can see some of the Dem-appointed judges there being concerned about the county's policy. Ultimately, the admissions policy will probably have to be modified in part. The disparate impact is extremely troubling, as is some of the other evidence. But that's just me talking from the position of my policy preference. Others could view the evidence differently. It's unlikely that this ever reaches the Supreme Court.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Arguments in favor of a stay is strong? How so? You don't let a bank robber get away with robbing a bank just because they've already loaded the money into their car and is not at the moment robbing the bank. The stolen money is the loot. The current admissions decisions are the result of racist policies - they must be redone.

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School Board’s arguments to grant stay for 2026 are extremely disingenuous. Court should ask them to only drop points for experience factors and limits for geographical distribution for 2026. This will not cause them any hardship as they are claiming.

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TJ admissions can also look at SOL, MAP scores as well as courses taken to determine eligible students for TJ for 2026.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Arguments in favor of a stay is strong? How so? You don't let a bank robber get away with robbing a bank just because they've already loaded the money into their car and is not at the moment robbing the bank. The stolen money is the loot. The current admissions decisions are the result of racist policies - they must be redone.

No one is entitled to those seats. They weren't "stolen".

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Arguments in favor of a stay is strong? How so? You don't let a bank robber get away with robbing a bank just because they've already loaded the money into their car and is not at the moment robbing the bank. The stolen money is the loot. The current admissions decisions are the result of racist policies - they must be redone.

No one is entitled to those seats. They weren't "stolen".

They were pilfered.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Arguments in favor of a stay is strong? How so? You don't let a bank robber get away with robbing a bank just because they've already loaded the money into their car and is not at the moment robbing the bank. The stolen money is the loot. The current admissions decisions are the result of racist policies - they must be redone.

No one is entitled to those seats. They weren't "stolen".

They were pilfered.

They were given to qualified applicants from across the county. Not just a pocket of wealthy middle schools.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Arguments in favor of a stay is strong? How so? You don't let a bank robber get away with robbing a bank just because they've already loaded the money into their car and is not at the moment robbing the bank. The stolen money is the loot. The current admissions decisions are the result of racist policies - they must be redone.

No one is entitled to those seats. They weren't "stolen".

They were pilfered.

They were given to qualified applicants from across the county. Not just a pocket of wealthy middle schools.

Most wealthy Asian parents don't care about TJ. We can send out kids to private or our kids can't cut it at TJ - either not smart or hard-working enough. They will still do fine. It is the middle-income folks (including Asians) who care. They teach their kids to put their head down and work. And FCPS punished them for it. In the most shameful way. Thank god the judge saw through the racist bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:School Board’s arguments to grant stay for 2026 are extremely disingenuous. Court should ask them to only drop points for experience factors and limits for geographical distribution for 2026. This will not cause them any hardship as they are claiming.

The above is the entire point of the new admissions systems. It’s the core.

With how the admissions office is apparently allowing ANYONE to get the economically disadvantaged bump due to free meals for all this school year, I worried that this will happen. I saw how those questions were worded and I think any parent could say yes to them.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have a link to the FCPS actual request for a stay? Would be interested to read what their legal arguments are.

https://www.ffxnow.com/files/2022/03/FCPS-Brief-in-Support-of-Motion-to-Stay-Pending-Appeal.pdf

They actually have a valid argument here.

Rehashing of old arguments. Nothing new. The request for stay will be denied.

You have to file a stay request in district court in order to file a motion for stay pending appeal in the court of appeals. I think the arguments in favor of a stay are very strong, but Hilton will likely deny it (because he has already ruled against them). But having now checked the box with a district court stay filing, they can file a motion for a stay in CA4.

Arguments in favor of a stay is strong? How so? You don't let a bank robber get away with robbing a bank just because they've already loaded the money into their car and is not at the moment robbing the bank. The stolen money is the loot. The current admissions decisions are the result of racist policies - they must be redone.

No one is entitled to those seats. They weren't "stolen".

They were pilfered.

They were given to qualified applicants from across the county. Not just a pocket of wealthy middle schools.

Most wealthy Asian parents don't care about TJ. We can send out kids to private or our kids can't cut it at TJ - either not smart or hard-working enough. They will still do fine. It is the middle-income folks (including Asians) who care. They teach their kids to put their head down and work. And FCPS punished them for it. In the most shameful way. Thank god the judge saw through the racist bullshit.

TJ is the 2nd wealthiest school in FCPS. Plenty of wealthy parents care deeply about TJ.