Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

You can’t get a wiretap with no evidence. Like it or not at the moment there is 0 evidence of a crime

Ridiculous. If Brian was a stranger to her or they had met on the road and he had showed up with HER van, no sign of her, and refusing to tell police exactly where he had seen her last, he would be in jail right now.

This is just another example of how intimate partner violence, overwhelmingly committed by men, against women, is minimized.

He should at least been under physical surveillance. You don't need a warrant for that.

I think there likely is evidence but “wiretapping” is virtually never done in these scenarios. “Sting” calls recorded by the other party on the line, yes (depends on the state but this is more doable). Physical surveillance from public space, yes however for the most part there just is not manpower to do it 24/7 for an indeterminate amount of time while the investigation is ongoing and sometimes people who are not being detained slip away. This isn’t that unusual or specific to this case. If anything you would expect that to have happened at this point. It is very unfortunate because I think that suicide is one possible outcome here.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone thinking his parents sent him away? Remember that kid who committed a crime and parents sent him to Israel? Can’t remember the details…

Probably unlikely he could leave via air without being flagged at that point. By land, I guess it’s possible and it does happen.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think he killed her. If he had abandoned her, he had plenty of time on the LOOOONG drive back to FL to cool off and realize he needed to go back for her. Since he didn’t do that, took her van, drove across the whole US and his parents didn’t send up any red flags when he returned without her, that means they all know there is no point in searching for her.

But they should go ahead and take some cadaver dogs out near where that couple picked him up in the Tetons.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone thinking his parents sent him away? Remember that kid who committed a crime and parents sent him to Israel? Can’t remember the details…

Probably unlikely he could leave via air without being flagged at that point. By land, I guess it’s possible and it does happen.

Are you thinking of Samuel Sheinbein:

https://bethesdamagazine.com/bethesda-magazine/may-june-2014/the-killer-next-door-samuel-sheinbein/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just read that Brian’s body may have been found where they were searching.

Area they were searching:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2021/09/18/us/gabby-petito-missing-saturday/index.html

His parents said he left on Tuesday with his backpack to go to the reserve, and haven't seen him since. What in God's name is wrong with them? They waited 3 days to tell their lawyer, who then told police. They didn't think of possible suicide given the state he was in? They didn't go to the reserve when he didn't return on Tuesday. Something very wrong with his parents. Is it possible Gabby was in the van with him when he returned to Florida on 9/1? Investigators received tips that they saw the couple at various stops heading away from Moab, Teton or wherever he left from.

You are taking them literal and then scratching your head

Instead, assume that they wanted their son out of reach of FBI , you’d wait until he was safely out of the country then call the police and tell them - if you want to look for our son - go look on the moon ( we mean the densist most desolate terrain in FLA) best of luck …:now please get these people off of our lawn

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the two options are: (1) he killed her, intentionally or accidentally; or (2) they had a fight and he left her somewhere and didn't report her missing. And then something happened.

He doesn't act like he has good sense, so I assume either are possible.

Ok yes. So if we can move past the inane chatter about her being an abuser who shouldn't be on social media, we can center on the real issue, which you have succinctly summarized here: either he abandoned her or killed her. I'm curious whether people think abandoned or killed is more likely?

Let this story be a lesson to all parents of boys: train them and drill it into their heads: if you are on a trip with a gf and want to break up - drive her to a police station or an airport and leave her with security personnel and make sure there are cameras and police witnesses that you left her safe - in public

Do NOT let her walk off alone without witnesses or yiu will be assumed to be her killer for the rest of your life

The girl may have met a foul end - but I am quite certain there are multiple psychos on the loose between Utah and Yellowstone - far more than there are beautiful , vulnerable and not too bright blonde girls

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the two options are: (1) he killed her, intentionally or accidentally; or (2) they had a fight and he left her somewhere and didn't report her missing. And then something happened.

He doesn't act like he has good sense, so I assume either are possible.

Ok yes. So if we can move past the inane chatter about her being an abuser who shouldn't be on social media, we can center on the real issue, which you have succinctly summarized here: either he abandoned her or killed her. I'm curious whether people think abandoned or killed is more likely?

Let this story be a lesson to all parents of boys: train them and drill it into their heads: if you are on a trip with a gf and want to break up - drive her to a police station or an airport and leave her with security personnel and make sure there are cameras and police witnesses that you left her safe - in public

Do NOT let her walk off alone without witnesses or yiu will be assumed to be her killer for the rest of your life

The girl may have met a foul end - but I am quite certain there are multiple psychos on the loose between Utah and Yellowstone - far more than there are beautiful , vulnerable and not too bright blonde girls

Or you could just train your sons to not be murderers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the two options are: (1) he killed her, intentionally or accidentally; or (2) they had a fight and he left her somewhere and didn't report her missing. And then something happened.

He doesn't act like he has good sense, so I assume either are possible.

Ok yes. So if we can move past the inane chatter about her being an abuser who shouldn't be on social media, we can center on the real issue, which you have succinctly summarized here: either he abandoned her or killed her. I'm curious whether people think abandoned or killed is more likely?

Let this story be a lesson to all parents of boys: train them and drill it into their heads: if you are on a trip with a gf and want to break up - drive her to a police station or an airport and leave her with security personnel and make sure there are cameras and police witnesses that you left her safe - in public

Do NOT let her walk off alone without witnesses or yiu will be assumed to be her killer for the rest of your life

The girl may have met a foul end - but I am quite certain there are multiple psychos on the loose between Utah and Yellowstone - far more than there are beautiful , vulnerable and not too bright blonde girls

Or you could just train your sons to not be murderers.

This is the answer. But I look forward to speculating about the whereabouts of that PP’s son’s girlfriend/wife someday.

[Anonymous]

Men are so horrible and violent!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Men are so horrible and violent!

This is true about everything. It wasn’t girls vandalizing bathrooms on tik tok. It’s boys. It’s always boys.

[Anonymous]

It’s possible that he locked her out of the van and drove away.
Maybe planning to come back for her, maybe not


Either way that should be considered murder.

[Anonymous]

Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

I agree with you BUT then he would have told police everything he knows. And he wouldn’t have stolen HER car and driven ALL THE WAY home with it and then not even cared when her parents called hysterical saying she’s missing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Perhaps we have had different life experiences and that is why you see only one possible killer and I see multiple threats to this girl

I’m blonde, blue eyed and athletic

My life experience is that from the age of about 15 until well past my 40th birthday, I could not walk down the street, wait for a bus, stand in a checkin line at an airport, fly on a plane, use the hotel pool patio - sit at a table in a restaurant and wait for my date for 10 minutes without being approached, offered a ride , asked out , given a business card

Even by cops , “ you know this neighborhood isn’t a good place to wait for the bus , why don’t you let me give you a ride “

I was even pressured by a military officer in uniform at the Pentagon to accept a ride home

“ well, if your bf doesn’t work out ….here is my card “

Literally 10 x a day

All this girl had to do is say “ yes” to the wrong person - ONCE and she is toast

Doesn’t mean it’s Brian

I agree with you BUT then he would have told police everything he knows. And he wouldn’t have stolen HER car and driven ALL THE WAY home with it and then not even cared when her parents called hysterical saying she’s missing.

They could have fight and she left. But in that case, he would have called the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well, the two options are: (1) he killed her, intentionally or accidentally; or (2) they had a fight and he left her somewhere and didn't report her missing. And then something happened.

He doesn't act like he has good sense, so I assume either are possible.

Ok yes. So if we can move past the inane chatter about her being an abuser who shouldn't be on social media, we can center on the real issue, which you have succinctly summarized here: either he abandoned her or killed her. I'm curious whether people think abandoned or killed is more likely?

Let this story be a lesson to all parents of boys: train them and drill it into their heads: if you are on a trip with a gf and want to break up - drive her to a police station or an airport and leave her with security personnel and make sure there are cameras and police witnesses that you left her safe - in public

Do NOT let her walk off alone without witnesses or yiu will be assumed to be her killer for the rest of your life

The girl may have met a foul end - but I am quite certain there are multiple psychos on the loose between Utah and Yellowstone - far more than there are beautiful , vulnerable and not too bright blonde girls

I can’t speak to the vulnerable and not to bright aspects but clearly you haven’t been there if you think there aren’t many blonde girls! I had never seen so many blondes in my life!