Stats it takes for a student to get into Stanford, Harvard, Princeton & Yale (2018)

[Anonymous]

Two seniors at the same school were featured on CNN for getting into every college they applied. One is on a public college forum specializing in "chance me" threads, which detail the poster's stats, asking which colleges they qualify for. This young man got into Harvard early action and then applied to 11 other colleges. He also still seems to be gunning for all the top scholarships, e.g. Bill Gates, after qualifying for full financial aid at each college?

State: Texas
Ethnicity: Black (Kenyan-American)
Income: Low
Intended Major: African Studies/International Relations/Political Science

I have a 4.0 UW, my school uses a 100 point scale so I have a 118.82 (~4.75 W) and I am 3 of 570 in my class.
ACT: 32 second-sitting
SAT II: US History- 730, Biology E- 740
AP: 5- Human Geography, US History, English Language 4- European History, Environmental Science, Spanish Language and Culture, World History, Psychology 3- Biology

Fly-in programs accepted to:
Williams, Swarthmore, UChicago, Emory, UPenn, Babson, Colgate, Middlebury, WashU St. Louis, Amherst, Pomona, Washington and Lee

[Anonymous]

Great for him!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.

[Anonymous]

So affluent kids should be ineligible for Rhodes, Marshall, and Truman scholarships?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.

We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.

We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Those scores are not even 50%tile for top performing Asian/white kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.[/quote
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Have you gone through the college process? If you need money, that's how you must do it. My kid was accepted to several Ivies this year. FA packages ranged from zero to 50% off. The system is broken but until it's fixed that's how you have to do it.

Also important to mote though, if you receive outside scholarships Ivies do not stack awards. So the scholarships will pay for the kids tuition and the financial aid can go back in the pool to help someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Wrong. Those are not amazing SAT II scores. His history score is only 73 percentile, bio is only 86 percentile. An Asian boy with his stats would be rejected from every college this boy was admitted to with a full ride. An Asian boy with those stats would struggle to get admitted to UVA with same profile.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/what-is-a-good-sat-subject-test-score

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.

We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Those scores are not even 50%tile for top performing Asian/white kids.

For low SES his scores are great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.

We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Those scores are not even 50%tile for top performing Asian/white kids.

For low SES his scores are great.

He is not competing against top performing Asian / white kids per se. US colleges and universities want a diverse student body, and they define that in lots of ways.

If you want to go where only stats matter, apply to a UK or Canadian university.

Don't have the player, hate the game.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Wrong. Those are not amazing SAT II scores. His history score is only 73 percentile, bio is only 86 percentile. An Asian boy with his stats would be rejected from every college this boy was admitted to with a full ride. An Asian boy with those stats would struggle to get admitted to UVA with same profile.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/what-is-a-good-sat-subject-test-score

This means nothing. Admission is not based on SATII scores. The ACT score is in the 98%. That along with grades are enough to put him in the game and make the first cut. The competition from there is a compelling story along with focused interests and strong teacher recs abd essays. Stuff you cant really judge on an anonymous forum.

[Anonymous]

There's absolutely nothing brilliant about this kid that warrants sweeping HYPS. Freakin' joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Wrong. Those are not amazing SAT II scores. His history score is only 73 percentile, bio is only 86 percentile. An Asian boy with his stats would be rejected from every college this boy was admitted to with a full ride. An Asian boy with those stats would struggle to get admitted to UVA with same profile.

https://blog.prepscholar.com/what-is-a-good-sat-subject-test-score

This means nothing. Admission is not based on SATII scores. The ACT score is in the 98%. That along with grades are enough to put him in the game and make the first cut. The competition from there is a compelling story along with focused interests and strong teacher recs abd essays. Stuff you cant really judge on an anonymous forum.

Tell that to the “his GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores” person who brought it up in the first place

[Anonymous]

Yeah, this is just plain silly. What can ya do, I guess.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Great for him!

I agree, but shotgunning apps out to schools with no intention of attending is not cool. Nor is hogging scholarships you don't need, which will change the life of other teens. Very unsettling behavior. I read apps during grad school and I can assure you many AOs will be looking unfavorably at this high school moving forward.

We don't know if he got a full scholarship, or a combination of grants and loans. No reason he shouldn't try for the best scholarships to the best colleges. He's breaking no rules here -- and AOs will be calling the high school to see if they have any more students like him.

His GPA is backed up by strong AP test results and also SAT2 scores.

Those scores are not even 50%tile for top performing Asian/white kids.

For low SES his scores are great.

Low SES Asian kids will beat that score EASY but still no Stanford, Harvard, or P.