Stats it takes for a student to get into Stanford, Harvard, Princeton & Yale (2018)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:TRUTH: HYP and other elite schools will lose their prestige and value if they start admitting students by merit AND they cease to be majority white.

Of course. They will also lose funding from donors.

The rich (all colors) will not upset the apple cart. They have no reason to. What do you think the URM kid is going to do when he gets out of Harvard and grows up? Go back to Harlem and take care of his peeps? Not a chance! He will become a Ben Carson or a Vernon Jordan and focus on getting with the program.

[Anonymous]

It's absolutely denigrating the achievements of white and Asian kids when less qualified black and Hispanic students are selected instead in the name of "diversity." In essence, they are penalized for the alleged sins of others, while less qualified black and Hsipanic students (often those who are higher SES, not the poor) receive an undeserved boost.

If you think the only kids disadvantaged in any way are black youths, due to police violence, the answer is to reform the police departments, not give black kids an advantage they don't deserve when applying to elite universities.

Poppycock. You denigrate the achievements of all black students when based solely on color of skin and SAT scores.

Can you explain why the clearly brilliant and smarter George Bush Jr got into Yale and Harvard BS with C - gpa and 500s on SAT over 1/2 a century ago as was common of many of his ilk? Affirmative action white admissions for the ages and centuries!

[Anonymous]

Yup, go figure, they fuss over students of color with more smarts, better grades and SAT scores. I suppose if these kids of color were millionaires and claimed the generational real estate stolen by whites (like the native Americans) all would be fine?

[Anonymous]

Look. If an elite school wants to increase it's URM diversity, it can easily give a nice endowment to a select group of inner city schools that show promise and task them to produce applicants that would match the elite schools non URM profile. Then extend or cancel the grant based on the results. If each of the top twenty privates did this and then admitted these kids with fabulous profiles, nobody would have any reason to complain.

But let's face it. This is hard. So they just pick off the best URM students they can find knowing that some of these kids will struggle in tough majors at these schools. They don't care about the students. They care about their image.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TRUTH: HYP and other elite schools will lose their prestige and value if they start admitting students by merit AND they cease to be majority white.

Of course. They will also lose funding from donors.

The rich (all colors) will not upset the apple cart. They have no reason to. What do you think the URM kid is going to do when he gets out of Harvard and grows up? Go back to Harlem and take care of his peeps? Not a chance! He will become a Ben Carson or a Vernon Jordan and focus on getting with the program.

Anyone know the largest donations to date from African-American and Hispanic alums/donors to any US university?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Two seniors at the same school were featured on CNN for getting into every college they applied. One is on a public college forum specializing in "chance me" threads, which detail the poster's stats, asking which colleges they qualify for. This young man got into Harvard early action and then applied to 11 other colleges. He also still seems to be gunning for all the top scholarships, e.g. Bill Gates, after qualifying for full financial aid at each college?

State: Texas
Ethnicity: Black (Kenyan-American)
Income: Low
Intended Major: African Studies/International Relations/Political Science

I have a 4.0 UW, my school uses a 100 point scale so I have a 118.82 (~4.75 W) and I am 3 of 570 in my class.
ACT: 32 second-sitting
SAT II: US History- 730, Biology E- 740
AP: 5- Human Geography, US History, English Language 4- European History, Environmental Science, Spanish Language and Culture, World History, Psychology 3- Biology

Fly-in programs accepted to:
Williams, Swarthmore, UChicago, Emory, UPenn, Babson, Colgate, Middlebury, WashU St. Louis, Amherst, Pomona, Washington and Lee

I saw this student on College Confidential and was blown away when he got into Stanford, Harvard, Princeton and Yale. Here's a direct link for those interested: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/2021582-chance-me-for-ivy.html#latest

The young man in The Times and CNN deserved admission to elites. But this young man above absolutely does not warrant getting into the same caliber of elite schools. His accomplishments are completely pedestrian! Also seems like pretty strong ammo for lawyers of Asian families suing these elite universities.

[Anonymous]

https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/2021582-chance-me-for-ivy-p1.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:TRUTH: HYP and other elite schools will lose their prestige and value if they start admitting students by merit AND they cease to be majority white.

Of course. They will also lose funding from donors.

The rich (all colors) will not upset the apple cart. They have no reason to. What do you think the URM kid is going to do when he gets out of Harvard and grows up? Go back to Harlem and take care of his peeps? Not a chance! He will become a Ben Carson or a Vernon Jordan and focus on getting with the program.

Vernon Jordan when to DePauw, an SLAC. Maybe that is why he has done so well. Ben Carson was Yale.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Two seniors at the same school were featured on CNN for getting into every college they applied. One is on a public college forum specializing in "chance me" threads, which detail the poster's stats, asking which colleges they qualify for. This young man got into Harvard early action and then applied to 11 other colleges. He also still seems to be gunning for all the top scholarships, e.g. Bill Gates, after qualifying for full financial aid at each college?

State: Texas
Ethnicity: Black (Kenyan-American)
Income: Low
Intended Major: African Studies/International Relations/Political Science

I have a 4.0 UW, my school uses a 100 point scale so I have a 118.82 (~4.75 W) and I am 3 of 570 in my class.
ACT: 32 second-sitting
SAT II: US History- 730, Biology E- 740
AP: 5- Human Geography, US History, English Language 4- European History, Environmental Science, Spanish Language and Culture, World History, Psychology 3- Biology

Fly-in programs accepted to:
Williams, Swarthmore, UChicago, Emory, UPenn, Babson, Colgate, Middlebury, WashU St. Louis, Amherst, Pomona, Washington and Lee

I saw this student on College Confidential and was blown away when he got into Stanford, Harvard, Princeton and Yale. Here's a direct link for those interested: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chances/2021582-chance-me-for-ivy.html#latest

The young man in The Times and CNN deserved admission to elites. But this young man above absolutely does not warrant getting into the same caliber of elite schools. His accomplishments are completely pedestrian! Also seems like pretty strong ammo for lawyers of Asian families suing these elite universities.

Sorry no. Asians wised up, they are not after students of color but white students. LOLOLOLOL!

http://www.thedp.com/article/2017/12/lucy-hu-unconstitutional-to-prefer-white-students-to-asian-students

[Anonymous]

I think it’s utterly bizarre to associate someone’s skin color with their being able to offer a different idea.

[Anonymous]

No it is not bizzare. Your life experiences are different based on your skin color and therefore your perspective is different. Generally it is someone in the majority that does not get or understand this. Whether it is race, gender, religion, disability, sexual orientation or a host of other forms of diversity, these things shape your perspective. And in this country with the Jim Crow history and what it feels like TODAY to walk down the street today not knowing if you will be killed for caring a cell phone or a bag of Skittles or treated differently based on the color of one's skin severely impacts the way one experiences the world and thus shapes perspective. But if you do not see value in that then there is no need to argue this point.

[Anonymous]

Anyone know the largest donations to date from African-American and Hispanic alums/donors to any US university?


Anyone know when AA were allowed to own land and property (or yield to thieves guided by the law) and pass it down through the generations? (generational trust fund babies)?

[Anonymous]

I think it’s utterly bizarre to associate someone’s skin color with their being able to offer a different idea.

Whites have promoted this theory for centuries (apartheid).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I think it’s utterly bizarre to associate someone’s skin color with their being able to offer a different idea.

Whites have promoted this theory for centuries (apartheid).

Yes, and they were wrong.

[Anonymous]

I saw this student on College Confidential and was blown away when he got into Stanford, Harvard, Princeton and Yale. Here's a direct link for those interested: https://talk.collegeconfidential.com/what-my-chanc...-chance-me-for-ivy.html#latest

The young man in The Times and CNN deserved admission to elites. But this young man above absolutely does not warrant getting into the same caliber of elite schools. His accomplishments are completely pedestrian! Also seems like pretty strong ammo for lawyers of Asian families suing these elite universities.

Do not be deceived by numbers alone. Einstein was not an A+++ student!!

And those who recognize this will always take Einstein over the A+ student.