Stats it takes for a student to get into Stanford, Harvard, Princeton & Yale (2018)

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t hate them because they are interesting...

Huh. My son had very similar ECs to these kids’ acitivities of Key Club, student government, mock trail, and debate and he was derided here as being “boring” “there’s nothing that makes him stand out” “you’re gonna need a lot more than that for Ivies”...lots of comments like that.

The silver spoon in his mouth was the tell.

And how do you tell that my kid has silver spoon in his mouth? Is it.because of his RACE? Guess what, you are a RACIST.



BTW, I don't have a kid applying this year.

If you tell me what race I'll answer the question.

You can tell whether a kid has a silver spoon in his mouth based on his race? Well, Sieg Heil.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t hate them because they are interesting...

Huh. My son had very similar ECs to these kids’ acitivities of Key Club, student government, mock trail, and debate and he was derided here as being “boring” “there’s nothing that makes him stand out” “you’re gonna need a lot more than that for Ivies”...lots of comments like that.

The silver spoon in his mouth was the tell.

What? My kid didn’t applie to any Ivies. His grades and scores and ECs were almost identical to these kids’ but we were told he had no chance.

It only makes a good story if your kid is poor and they film a YouTube video of 150 classmates acting like they’re in a Pentacostal church when the kid gets in.

[Anonymous]

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State: Texas
Ethnicity: Black (Kenyan-American)
Income: Low
Intended Major: African Studies/International Relations/Political Science

I have a 4.0 UW, my school uses a 100 point scale so I have a 118.82 (~4.75 W) and I am 3 of 570 in my class.
ACT: 32 second-sitting
SAT II: US History- 730, Biology E- 740
AP: 5- Human Geography, US History, English Language 4- European History, Environmental Science, Spanish Language and Culture, World History, Psychology 3- Biology

Fly-in programs accepted to:
Williams, Swarthmore, UChicago, Emory, UPenn, Babson, Colgate, Middlebury, WashU St. Louis, Amherst, Pomona, Washington and Lee

The update:

"12/12 in the admissions process! still stunned and feeling extremely blessed.
Harvard
Yale
Princeton
UPenn
Brown
Stanford
Duke
UChicago
Rice
Williams
Johns Hopkins
UT Austin

Now time to decide...."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Almost every kid, no ALL kids, at a school like TJ will score higher than this kid on ALL fronts. But only a handful get these kind of offers. Shame! We are supposed to be a merit-based society. Wonder when that changed..

Of course they take character into account which is where your head spins.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t hate them because they are interesting...

Huh. My son had very similar ECs to these kids’ acitivities of Key Club, student government, mock trail, and debate and he was derided here as being “boring” “there’s nothing that makes him stand out” “you’re gonna need a lot more than that for Ivies”...lots of comments like that.

Funny this poster read "interesting" and it translated in their simple brain as ECs. What a f'ing idiot!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Almost every kid, no ALL kids, at a school like TJ will score higher than this kid on ALL fronts. But only a handful get these kind of offers. Shame! We are supposed to be a merit-based society. Wonder when that changed..

But many of those kids would get those scores because they went to TJ, the scores are more impressive when someone achieves them coming from a school with less access to higher level courses... merit is also more than just numbers.. some kids have had many benefits- tutors, access to the best curriculum and teachers, an/or supportive, well educated families. Others are working a part time job to contribute to food costs, sharing a bedroom with multiple siblings and have parents who don't understand the system. They are working at least as hard or harder than the kids with the advantages. Imagine what they could do IF they had some of the advantages!?!?!

I do not know about the kid in this article and am certainly not saying every minority student has come from disadvantage or that those from TJ or elite schools haven't had disadvantages, just pointing out that scores alone do not prove how hard a kid has worked or what their potential is. There is more to every student than a list of scores.

TJ kids are not necessarily rich. Neither is my kid who goes to a local private school - she also has a job to pay for expenses, but she is assumed to be rich based on where she is going to school. She also has no tutors. It’s a very simplistic ideal to label huge groups of people with such a broad brush.

So your child goes to school hungry and doesn't eat on weekends because there is no food?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don’t hate them because they are interesting...

Huh. My son had very similar ECs to these kids’ acitivities of Key Club, student government, mock trail, and debate and he was derided here as being “boring” “there’s nothing that makes him stand out” “you’re gonna need a lot more than that for Ivies”...lots of comments like that.

The silver spoon in his mouth was the tell.

What? My kid didn’t applie to any Ivies. His grades and scores and ECs were almost identical to these kids’ but we were told he had no chance.

The black kid with the 1540 was probably one of the top 10 AA kids in the country stats wise. He's going to get in anywhere he applies.

Yes, a black kid with a score of 1540 will most likely get in anywhere. About 1000 black kids scored over 1500 on the SAT. https://www.brookings.edu/research/race-gaps-in-sat-scores-highlight-inequality-and-hinder-upward-mobility/

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Anonymous wrote:You get into HYP because you have something they want - and very rarely is that “something” your money or the fact you went to a big three private. Yes you need to be able to back that “something” up with good stats - but HYPS will take an interesting kid with unique skills over one with perfect stats 9/10. I don’t know how many times I heard from Harvard peeps that in an admissions pool where you can take anyone you want, you’re going to take the nice, altruistic kid with a particular strength over someone with perfect test scores and Machiavellian parents.

At our private, at least 25% goes to ivy and HYP admits the $$$$$

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So your child goes to school hungry and doesn't eat on weekends because there is no food?

Why do folk act like every minority grows up with a dirt floor and free lunch? The OP's young man's mother is super involved and has what sounds like a solid clerical job.

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Anonymous wrote:Don’t hate them because they are interesting...

Huh. My son had very similar ECs to these kids’ acitivities of Key Club, student government, mock trail, and debate and he was derided here as being “boring” “there’s nothing that makes him stand out” “you’re gonna need a lot more than that for Ivies”...lots of comments like that.

The silver spoon in his mouth was the tell.

What? My kid didn’t applie to any Ivies. His grades and scores and ECs were almost identical to these kids’ but we were told he had no chance.

The black kid with the 1540 was probably one of the top 10 AA kids in the country stats wise. He's going to get in anywhere he applies.

Yes, a black kid with a score of 1540 will most likely get in anywhere. About 1000 black kids scored over 1500 on the SAT. https://www.brookings.edu/research/race-gaps-in-sat-scores-highlight-inequality-and-hinder-upward-mobility/

From the article at most 1000 blacks scored above 750 on the math. Scoring above 750 on the verbal is harder, and scoring above 750 on both is much harder still. Combine that with being 3rd in his class. Top 10 is too low, but it I'll bet this kid is in the top 100. I remember looking at ACT scores a few years back and there were less than a hundred AA kids who scored 34 or above.

[Anonymous]

New viral tweet. White girl with 29 on the ACT (converted), better AP scores, 5 on the toughest AP exam, dual enrolled college credits...can't even get into one of the UC System colleges:

"Its official! After maintaining a 4.3 gpa throughout high school, receiving a 1370 SAT score, a 5 on the AP Calc BC exam, A's in 3 college English courses, and countless late nights studying, I am proud to announce that I will not be attending literally any UC I applied to."

I guess she's not "unique" enough.

https://twitter.com/manduhmia/status/979552096293871617

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New viral tweet. White girl with 29 on the ACT (converted), better AP scores, 5 on the toughest AP exam, dual enrolled college credits...can't even get into one of the UC System colleges:

"Its official! After maintaining a 4.3 gpa throughout high school, receiving a 1370 SAT score, a 5 on the AP Calc BC exam, A's in 3 college English courses, and countless late nights studying, I am proud to announce that I will not be attending literally any UC I applied to."

I guess she's not "unique" enough.

https://twitter.com/manduhmia/status/979552096293871617

She applied to the college of engineering with a major in chemical engineering (at least that is what it states on rejection from UCSB) and hasn't taken AP chemistry or AP physics yet. Her only other AP classes taken besides AP Calculus are AP European History and AP US History. It is harder to enter into any UC college of engineering than liberal arts college. And she doesn't list rejections from UC Merced or Riverside or Santa Cruz.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New viral tweet. White girl with 29 on the ACT (converted), better AP scores, 5 on the toughest AP exam, dual enrolled college credits...can't even get into one of the UC System colleges:

"Its official! After maintaining a 4.3 gpa throughout high school, receiving a 1370 SAT score, a 5 on the AP Calc BC exam, A's in 3 college English courses, and countless late nights studying, I am proud to announce that I will not be attending literally any UC I applied to."

I guess she's not "unique" enough.

https://twitter.com/manduhmia/status/979552096293871617

She applied to the college of engineering with a major in chemical engineering (at least that is what it states on rejection from UCSB) and hasn't taken AP chemistry or AP physics yet. Her only other AP classes taken besides AP Calculus are AP European History and AP US History. It is harder to enter into any UC college of engineering than liberal arts college. And she doesn't list rejections from UC Merced or Riverside or Santa Cruz.

Your logic and reasoning are really making it hard for me to appreciate the victimization of white people like myself. Please stop.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:New viral tweet. White girl with 29 on the ACT (converted), better AP scores, 5 on the toughest AP exam, dual enrolled college credits...can't even get into one of the UC System colleges:

"Its official! After maintaining a 4.3 gpa throughout high school, receiving a 1370 SAT score, a 5 on the AP Calc BC exam, A's in 3 college English courses, and countless late nights studying, I am proud to announce that I will not be attending literally any UC I applied to."

I guess she's not "unique" enough.

https://twitter.com/manduhmia/status/979552096293871617

She applied to the college of engineering with a major in chemical engineering (at least that is what it states on rejection from UCSB) and hasn't taken AP chemistry or AP physics yet. Her only other AP classes taken besides AP Calculus are AP European History and AP US History. It is harder to enter into any UC college of engineering than liberal arts college. And she doesn't list rejections from UC Merced or Riverside or Santa Cruz.

How do you know?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:New viral tweet. White girl with 29 on the ACT (converted), better AP scores, 5 on the toughest AP exam, dual enrolled college credits...can't even get into one of the UC System colleges:

"Its official! After maintaining a 4.3 gpa throughout high school, receiving a 1370 SAT score, a 5 on the AP Calc BC exam, A's in 3 college English courses, and countless late nights studying, I am proud to announce that I will not be attending literally any UC I applied to."

I guess she's not "unique" enough.

https://twitter.com/manduhmia/status/979552096293871617

Does “Amanda Chavez” sound white to you?