Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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Anonymous wrote:Well...we do have a much larger aging population than we can adequately care for in coming years.

The aging population has significant wealth and they will create jobs. You probably need them more than they need you.

Sorry, people who are 65+ aren't the ones making new jobs now.

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I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.


But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.
1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

This is good news if the death rate is going down in China. It could mean that they are finding better ways to treat people. Do you have a link for this? This news would really be good.

I hope it’s real

I think the death rate is going down because the most vulnerable have already died.

Saying that being older with pre-existing conditions and/or a smoker with damaged lungs makes you more vulnerable to this virus is a fact. It doesn't mean that people don't care. It simply means that a person in ill health is more likely to die when they catch this virus. The same could be said for the flu or any other kind of virus. The poorer your overall health, the greater the risk.

This thread makes it sound like we don’t care about elderly and smokers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember that covid almost always has a fever. So you don’t need to worry about all those people with runny noses and no fever. Any sort of fever—isolate and sanitize everything. And everyone should start taking their temps more often.

I think the chinese death rates are going down because they have really ramped up testing a LOT. They are now catching all the mild cases whereas before they were only testing the seriously ill.

This is going to be a HUGE challenge for the US to do since we are so behind on test production.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Remember that covid almost always has a fever. So you don’t need to worry about all those people with runny noses and no fever. Any sort of fever—isolate and sanitize everything. And everyone should start taking their temps more often.

I think the chinese death rates are going down because they have really ramped up testing a LOT. They are now catching all the mild cases whereas before they were only testing the seriously ill.

They've quarantined 700 million people. That's the reason.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.


But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.
1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

This is good news if the death rate is going down in China. It could mean that they are finding better ways to treat people. Do you have a link for this? This news would really be good.

I hope it’s real

I think the death rate is going down because the most vulnerable have already died.

This thread makes it sound like we don’t care about elderly and smokers.

Saying that being older with pre-existing conditions and/or a smoker with damaged lungs makes you more vulnerable to this virus is a fact. It doesn't mean that people don't care. It simply means that a person in ill health is more likely to die when they catch this virus. The same could be said for the flu or any other kind of virus. The poorer your overall health, the greater the risk.

DP. Reread the past page or two.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What do you all think about the positive news that China is closing the make shift hospitals and resuming production?

Is it really over in China?

I think their response showed the beauty of how, when it wants to, an authoritarian/semi-communist regime can act and act boldly. I’m not joking. But I have a healthy skepticism about the numbers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Remember that covid almost always has a fever. So you don’t need to worry about all those people with runny noses and no fever. Any sort of fever—isolate and sanitize everything. And everyone should start taking their temps more often.

I think the chinese death rates are going down because they have really ramped up testing a LOT. They are now catching all the mild cases whereas before they were only testing the seriously ill.

They've quarantined 700 million people. That's the reason.

A combination of things:
Extensive testing, quarantines, and teams to identify the spread.

Not sure the US is prepared to do any of that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember that covid almost always has a fever. So you don’t need to worry about all those people with runny noses and no fever. Any sort of fever—isolate and sanitize everything. And everyone should start taking their temps more often.

I think the chinese death rates are going down because they have really ramped up testing a LOT. They are now catching all the mild cases whereas before they were only testing the seriously ill.

They've quarantined 700 million people. That's the reason.

A combination of things:
Extensive testing, quarantines, and teams to identify the spread.

Not sure the US is prepared to do any of that.

The US is not at all prepared. I have a bad feeling about what the hospitals in the western states are going to look like in a couple weeks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What do you all think about the positive news that China is closing the make shift hospitals and resuming production?

Is it really over in China?

Link?

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-toll/wuhan-closes-makeshift-hospital-as-new-coronavirus-cases-in-china-drop-sharply-idUSKBN20P01K

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Remember that covid almost always has a fever. So you don’t need to worry about all those people with runny noses and no fever. Any sort of fever—isolate and sanitize everything. And everyone should start taking their temps more often.

I think the chinese death rates are going down because they have really ramped up testing a LOT. They are now catching all the mild cases whereas before they were only testing the seriously ill.

They've quarantined 700 million people. That's the reason.

A combination of things:
Extensive testing, quarantines, and teams to identify the spread.

Not sure the US is prepared to do any of that.

The US is not at all prepared. I have a bad feeling about what the hospitals in the western states are going to look like in a couple weeks.

I work at one of those and I share the same feeling. Except it’s not going to take a couple of weeks.

[Anonymous]

Can someone repost the link to the site with the really good global statistics? I lost my bookmark. Thanks.

[Anonymous]

Has anyone by chance seen any statistics about immunocompromised people specifically? I can’t find anything.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.


But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.
1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

This is good news if the death rate is going down in China. It could mean that they are finding better ways to treat people. Do you have a link for this? This news would really be good.

I hope it’s real

I think the death rate is going down because the most vulnerable have already died.

This thread makes it sound like we don’t care about elderly and smokers.

Saying that being older with pre-existing conditions and/or a smoker with damaged lungs makes you more vulnerable to this virus is a fact. It doesn't mean that people don't care. It simply means that a person in ill health is more likely to die when they catch this virus. The same could be said for the flu or any other kind of virus. The poorer your overall health, the greater the risk.

DP. Reread the past page or two.

eh, there are people whose primary interest is in gaining a free holiday over this virus via a "quarantine". They aren't that worried about catching the illness themselves because they know they'll likely recover just fine from it. The truth is, the vast majority of people are more fearful of government overreaction than they are of catching the virus. That should tell us something.

People are cancelling travel plans, not because they are afraid of getting ill but because they don't want to end up in a Diamond Princess type of limbo or under some sort of quarantine observation in a hospital - the medical bills, alone, would be astronomical.

If you make people too afraid to report their symptoms, then people are going to hide their symptoms until they are deathly ill and have no choice but to go to the hospital and by that point they've spread it to how many others?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Well...we do have a much larger aging population than we can adequately care for in coming years.

The aging population has significant wealth and they will create jobs. You probably need them more than they need you.

Sorry, people who are 65+ aren't the ones making new jobs now.

Um, eldercare is a huge business in this country. Think of all of the retirement communities, healthcare facilities, home healthcare businesses out there and then think about how many jobs would be lost if the elderly population were reduced significantly.

Luckily, even in the elderly population where risk of sever illness from this virus is greatly heightened, most of them are recovering from it. That is good news for all of us.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.


But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.
1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

This is good news if the death rate is going down in China. It could mean that they are finding better ways to treat people. Do you have a link for this? This news would really be good.

I hope it’s real

I think the death rate is going down because the most vulnerable have already died.

This thread makes it sound like we don’t care about elderly and smokers.

Saying that being older with pre-existing conditions and/or a smoker with damaged lungs makes you more vulnerable to this virus is a fact. It doesn't mean that people don't care. It simply means that a person in ill health is more likely to die when they catch this virus. The same could be said for the flu or any other kind of virus. The poorer your overall health, the greater the risk.

DP. Reread the past page or two.

eh, there are people whose primary interest is in gaining a free holiday over this virus via a "quarantine". They aren't that worried about catching the illness themselves because they know they'll likely recover just fine from it. The truth is, the vast majority of people are more fearful of government overreaction than they are of catching the virus. That should tell us something.

People are cancelling travel plans, not because they are afraid of getting ill but because they don't want to end up in a Diamond Princess type of limbo or under some sort of quarantine observation in a hospital - the medical bills, alone, would be astronomical.

If you make people too afraid to report their symptoms, then people are going to hide their symptoms until they are deathly ill and have no choice but to go to the hospital and by that point they've spread it to how many others?

Those are reasonable points but basically you're saying that you can't be bothered to reread the last page or two, or else you think joking posts about the elderly and smokers dying are really funny?

Or you are just really really bad at quoting.