Discrimination against Asians

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

White privilege arguing at its finest. Irish discrimination? How many other immigrant groups in American has this occurred: Immigrants move to U.S. (1830s); 2nd generation child (1858-1929) who has been allowed to prosper in business and politics; 3rd generation anti-Semite (1888-1969) who used family connections to prosper in business, government, and Hollywood; 4th generation U.S. president (1917-1963) and siblings who had powerful careers in government. You're right, the Irish faced the same ceiling as POC immigrant groups.

And by the way, as for the fake news:
"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization
https://rjensen.people.uic.edu/no-irish.htm

/gas face

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

White privilege arguing at its finest. Irish discrimination? How many other immigrant groups in American has this occurred: Immigrants move to U.S. (1830s); 2nd generation child (1858-1929) who has been allowed to prosper in business and politics; 3rd generation anti-Semite (1888-1969) who used family connections to prosper in business, government, and Hollywood; 4th generation U.S. president (1917-1963) and siblings who had powerful careers in government. You're right, the Irish faced the same ceiling as POC immigrant groups.

And by the way, as for the fake news:
"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization
https://rjensen.people.uic.edu/no-irish.htm

/gas face

DP. What are you going on about? None of this toxic behavior is going to make anyone have any more sympathy for Asians fighting as hard as they can to keep everyone else out of a magnet school. Your TJ is dead. None is going to bring it back now - certainly not this - and you’re ensuring people will vote against Asian political candidates in the future if you actually ever muster the courage to run.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

White privilege arguing at its finest. Irish discrimination? How many other immigrant groups in American has this occurred: Immigrants move to U.S. (1830s); 2nd generation child (1858-1929) who has been allowed to prosper in business and politics; 3rd generation anti-Semite (1888-1969) who used family connections to prosper in business, government, and Hollywood; 4th generation U.S. president (1917-1963) and siblings who had powerful careers in government. You're right, the Irish faced the same ceiling as POC immigrant groups.

And by the way, as for the fake news:
"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization
https://rjensen.people.uic.edu/no-irish.htm

/gas face

DP. What are you going on about? None of this toxic behavior is going to make anyone have any more sympathy for Asians fighting as hard as they can to keep everyone else out of a magnet school. Your TJ is dead. None is going to bring it back now - certainly not this - and you’re ensuring people will vote against Asian political candidates in the future if you actually ever muster the courage to run.

We will see if TJ is dead or not in few years. Be careful what you wish for - trying to do away with TJ may lead to doing away with the affirmative action itself.

[Anonymous]

Why discuss this with someone who doesn't recognize there is an issue regarding discrimination against Asians?
It's a waste of time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

White privilege arguing at its finest. Irish discrimination? How many other immigrant groups in American has this occurred: Immigrants move to U.S. (1830s); 2nd generation child (1858-1929) who has been allowed to prosper in business and politics; 3rd generation anti-Semite (1888-1969) who used family connections to prosper in business, government, and Hollywood; 4th generation U.S. president (1917-1963) and siblings who had powerful careers in government. You're right, the Irish faced the same ceiling as POC immigrant groups.

And by the way, as for the fake news:
"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization
https://rjensen.people.uic.edu/no-irish.htm

/gas face

You forgot the original point. The original post said: Every up and coming group has faced discrimination. The Irish, the Catholics, the Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics. Asians are no exception.

So, these grouped faced discrimination and persevered. So yes, I am saying first generation Irish-Americans, like most immigrants, faced discrimination. I'm not saying they do today. Same with Catholics. There wasn't a Catholic on the Supreme Court for 150 years, and now there are about to be 6 of them.

[Anonymous]

"This is one country in the world where you can advance far if you put in effort no matter what your color and having zero dollars when you immigrate
This is not true of very many other countries in the world. That is why everyone of all colors want to come here....for better opportunities
for their families than in their country of origin."

This is true, however the bar is set higher for some groups than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

White privilege arguing at its finest. Irish discrimination? How many other immigrant groups in American has this occurred: Immigrants move to U.S. (1830s); 2nd generation child (1858-1929) who has been allowed to prosper in business and politics; 3rd generation anti-Semite (1888-1969) who used family connections to prosper in business, government, and Hollywood; 4th generation U.S. president (1917-1963) and siblings who had powerful careers in government. You're right, the Irish faced the same ceiling as POC immigrant groups.

And by the way, as for the fake news:
"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization
https://rjensen.people.uic.edu/no-irish.htm

/gas face

You forgot the original point. The original post said: Every up and coming group has faced discrimination. The Irish, the Catholics, the Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics. Asians are no exception.

So, these grouped faced discrimination and persevered. So yes, I am saying first generation Irish-Americans, like most immigrants, faced discrimination. I'm not saying they do today. Same with Catholics. There wasn't a Catholic on the Supreme Court for 150 years, and now there are about to be 6 of them.

I can agree with first generation immigrants historically facing discrimination. However, when it comes to matters of race, you can't assimilate they same way, and the discrimination continues in perpetuity.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Umm. . . you can't hide an Italian accent, an Irish brogue, red hair, olive skin . . . Discrimination against immigrants from Europe was very prevalent. Please learn history before trying to make a whiteness argument.

Another white argument. Look at the top actors in Hollywood and notice that many of them are from England and Australia, and often play characters with American accents. Want me to list a bunch of them? Comparing the European immigrant experience to blacks, hispanics, Native American, Chinese, Japanese, etc. is a joke.

Learn some history: https://www.history.com/news/when-america-despised-the-irish-the-19th-centurys-refugee-crisis

White privilege arguing at its finest. Irish discrimination? How many other immigrant groups in American has this occurred: Immigrants move to U.S. (1830s); 2nd generation child (1858-1929) who has been allowed to prosper in business and politics; 3rd generation anti-Semite (1888-1969) who used family connections to prosper in business, government, and Hollywood; 4th generation U.S. president (1917-1963) and siblings who had powerful careers in government. You're right, the Irish faced the same ceiling as POC immigrant groups.

And by the way, as for the fake news:
"No Irish Need Apply": A Myth of Victimization
https://rjensen.people.uic.edu/no-irish.htm

/gas face

You forgot the original point. The original post said: Every up and coming group has faced discrimination. The Irish, the Catholics, the Jews, Blacks, and Hispanics. Asians are no exception.

So, these grouped faced discrimination and persevered. So yes, I am saying first generation Irish-Americans, like most immigrants, faced discrimination. I'm not saying they do today. Same with Catholics. There wasn't a Catholic on the Supreme Court for 150 years, and now there are about to be 6 of them.

I can agree with first generation immigrants historically facing discrimination. However, when it comes to matters of race, you can't assimilate they same way, and the discrimination continues in perpetuity.

+1

[Anonymous]

"Same. I can’t bring myself to vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Biden either and then I’m voting straight Republican down the rest of the ticket just in case Biden wins. I didn’t leave my party first though. They left me. And they’ve gone off the deep end with trying to say that things like “hard work” and “punctuality” and “linear thinking” and “scientific method” and “nuclear family” are “white” values instead of American values. What? I just can’t with that nonsense."

I feel the same, it's very very hard for me to vote for Trump. I come from a long Dem family and I would be the first to vote Republican. But I think both parties have changed. And in terms of equality for the future I'm tossing my hat in the Repblican ring. I just can stand to listen to all the virtue signaling by the Dems.
Biden lost me when he announced he would replace RBG with a black woman? Wtf - since when is it ok to use race and gender as job qualifications?
Anyway, it's a grim time in our country. But Asian Americans, don't forget, it IS OUR COUNTRY too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Same. I can’t bring myself to vote for Trump but I won’t vote for Biden either and then I’m voting straight Republican down the rest of the ticket just in case Biden wins. I didn’t leave my party first though. They left me. And they’ve gone off the deep end with trying to say that things like “hard work” and “punctuality” and “linear thinking” and “scientific method” and “nuclear family” are “white” values instead of American values. What? I just can’t with that nonsense."

I feel the same, it's very very hard for me to vote for Trump. I come from a long Dem family and I would be the first to vote Republican. But I think both parties have changed. And in terms of equality for the future I'm tossing my hat in the Repblican ring. I just can stand to listen to all the virtue signaling by the Dems.
Biden lost me when he announced he would replace RBG with a black woman? Wtf - since when is it ok to use race and gender as job qualifications?
Anyway, it's a grim time in our country. But Asian Americans, don't forget, it IS OUR COUNTRY too.

Same for me Biden lost me when he said that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"This is one country in the world where you can advance far if you put in effort no matter what your color and having zero dollars when you immigrate
This is not true of very many other countries in the world. That is why everyone of all colors want to come here....for better opportunities
for their families than in their country of origin."

This is true, however the bar is set higher for some groups than others.

Who are you to minimize another’s experience? You don’t know what it’s like to be any other race, so how would you be able to know what obstacles they face?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"This is one country in the world where you can advance far if you put in effort no matter what your color and having zero dollars when you immigrate
This is not true of very many other countries in the world. That is why everyone of all colors want to come here....for better opportunities
for their families than in their country of origin."

This is true, however the bar is set higher for some groups than others.

Who are you to minimize another’s experience? You don’t know what it’s like to be any other race, so how would you be able to know what obstacles they face?

Who are you to minimize Asian Americans’ experience and discrimination they face?

[Anonymous]

"Who are you to minimize another’s experience? You don’t know what it’s like to be any other race, so how would you be able to know what obstacles they face?"

According to research from Princeton University, students who identify as Asian must score, on average, 140 points higher on the SAT (out of 1600) than whites to have the same chance of admission to private colleges. They must score 450 points higher on the SAT than African-Americans. This is the “Asian Tax” that some refer to and, while this research’s direct quantification of bias might be interesting, the fact that Asians have to do better academically than others to get admitted into selective US colleges shouldn’t come as a big surprise to anyone somewhat familiar with college admissions.

Uh, the numbers don't lie. Affirmative action lowers the bar for black people and raises the bar for Asians.