2022 Olympics

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Anonymous wrote:Man these games are dark. Drugging 15 year olds, nationalist bickering, athletes for sale to the highest bidder. It makes snowpiercer look cheery.


3 illegal drugs in her system which together make more endurance and stamina.
Now she’s saying her grandfathers meds contaminated whatever she takes.
What a mockery


Only one is illegal.


Nice to see the Russian authorities trying out legal drugs on their athletes

Let’s not be naive. If it’s legal, every country is exploiting the benefits.


They were hoping the other two prescription drugs would mask the illegal one in the late December test.
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Anonymous wrote:Man these games are dark. Drugging 15 year olds, nationalist bickering, athletes for sale to the highest bidder. It makes snowpiercer look cheery.


3 illegal drugs in her system which together make more endurance and stamina.
Now she’s saying her grandfathers meds contaminated whatever she takes.
What a mockery


Only one is illegal.


Nice to see the Russian authorities trying out legal drugs on their athletes

Let’s not be naive. If it’s legal, every country is exploiting the benefits.


True. But they know the banned ones and stay away from them.


This. Johnny and Tara were taking that as high level figure skaters at age of 11 or 12, they started drug testing and knew there were protocols and aware of what they can and can’t put in the body. When they were sick or even with a mild cold, their mother had to call a hot line to check what medications they were allowed to take, etc.


Weir did not even start skating until age 12.

He was in competitive skating in 1996, when he would have been 12, and came in 4th place at the US Junior Championship, so he probably started getting screened at that competition and beyond.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


I think it's ridiculous that anyone would think that she and her family would have any choice but to go along with whatever they're ordered to do.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


That was the initial penalty for Sochi doping. The IOC just never had the spine to enforce it
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


Let’s keep giving Putin the skybox for opening and closing ceremonies and then scratching our head at all the China/Russia colluding in oil, gas, trade, weapons, and doing exceptions.

At this point I’m curious what Trump would have said.
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* Doping exceptions
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.

They've claimed that they've banned Russia as much as they're legally allowed, which is to let them compete as "Not-Russia" so I wouldn't hold my breath.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man these games are dark. Drugging 15 year olds, nationalist bickering, athletes for sale to the highest bidder. It makes snowpiercer look cheery.


3 illegal drugs in her system which together make more endurance and stamina.
Now she’s saying her grandfathers meds contaminated whatever she takes.
What a mockery


Only one is illegal.


Nice to see the Russian authorities trying out legal drugs on their athletes

Let’s not be naive. If it’s legal, every country is exploiting the benefits.


They were hoping the other two prescription drugs would mask the illegal one in the late December test.


L-carnitine is a supplement widely available OTC in the US. It is not a prescription drug.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


LOL if you ban Russian skaters, they will all show up next Olympics representing places like Uzbekistan and Lithuania, where they will be welcome with open arms.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Man these games are dark. Drugging 15 year olds, nationalist bickering, athletes for sale to the highest bidder. It makes snowpiercer look cheery.


3 illegal drugs in her system which together make more endurance and stamina.
Now she’s saying her grandfathers meds contaminated whatever she takes.
What a mockery


Only one is illegal.


Nice to see the Russian authorities trying out legal drugs on their athletes

Let’s not be naive. If it’s legal, every country is exploiting the benefits.


They were hoping the other two prescription drugs would mask the illegal one in the late December test.


L-carnitine is a supplement widely available OTC in the US. It is not a prescription drug.

The media has really sensationalized L-carnitine. Just scanning the Wikipedia page I see it's a supplement for people who don't eat enough meat or dairy, and that it's performance enhancing abilities aren't proven. Hypoxen is a total red flag though.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


LOL if you ban Russian skaters, they will all show up next Olympics representing places like Uzbekistan and Lithuania, where they will be welcome with open arms.


Also it comes down to $$$ of course. No one wants to host the Olympics anymore because it’s expensive, running billions of dollars above the estimated budget. Every game in the last 50 years has gone over budget and IOC receives fewer bids with each games. I read Russia was considering to submit its bid to host 2036 Summer Olympics. No wonder IOC is reluctant to punish Russia properly.
It’s disgusting but I think money is one of the top reason why things never change.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


LOL if you ban Russian skaters, they will all show up next Olympics representing places like Uzbekistan and Lithuania, where they will be welcome with open arms.

That's fine, so long as those countries have anti-doping agencies that aren't a corrupt joke.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


LOL if you ban Russian skaters, they will all show up next Olympics representing places like Uzbekistan and Lithuania, where they will be welcome with open arms.


Also it comes down to $$$ of course. No one wants to host the Olympics anymore because it’s expensive, running billions of dollars above the estimated budget. Every game in the last 50 years has gone over budget and IOC receives fewer bids with each games. I read Russia was considering to submit its bid to host 2036 Summer Olympics. No wonder IOC is reluctant to punish Russia properly.
It’s disgusting but I think money is one of the top reason why things never change.

The French want to host. So do the Italians. So do the Americans. So do the Australians.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


Let’s keep giving Putin the skybox for opening and closing ceremonies and then scratching our head at all the China/Russia colluding in oil, gas, trade, weapons, and doing exceptions.

At this point I’m curious what Trump would have said.


He would have talked of love letters... possibly a menage a trois between himself, Putin, and Xi?
They are "very strong" after all.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:well, the family is basically being told what to say by the Kremlin. This is how Russia works and we all know it. She knows full well she didn't take grandpa's pills - they are ALL lying.

But, I am so sad that she alone is going to take the fall when this was a team effort.


Be sad for the Japanese skaters, who are being denied the placements and moments they deserve because of Russian drugging.


Blame the IOC for letting the farce of the ROC compete in the first place


Like what is the proper response now? Are they going to ban ALL Russians now, unless they go the route of competing for a different country with dual citizenship? I’m just wondering how this is going to turn out now? In the Olympics and other international competitions.

Seriously Russia, I guess you can hold your own competition and dope up your athletes as much as you want now.


LOL if you ban Russian skaters, they will all show up next Olympics representing places like Uzbekistan and Lithuania, where they will be welcome with open arms.


Also it comes down to $$$ of course. No one wants to host the Olympics anymore because it’s expensive, running billions of dollars above the estimated budget. Every game in the last 50 years has gone over budget and IOC receives fewer bids with each games. I read Russia was considering to submit its bid to host 2036 Summer Olympics. No wonder IOC is reluctant to punish Russia properly.
It’s disgusting but I think money is one of the top reason why things never change.


These scandals have to be taking a financial toll as well, though. Ratings are way down for this Olympics which will ultimately impact the amount of money any network (American and others) will be willing to pay for the exclusive rights to broadcast the games. Not sure when NBC's current contract expires, but it'll be interesting to see the terms of the next one.
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