Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.

But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.

1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Honestly what scares me most are subways right now.

Why? Curious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.

But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.

1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

We don't really know the numerator or the denominator yet to calculate a death rate. We're just starting to identify the "stealth" cases that were not tested for before. China might have a better handle on that since their cases are more mature.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.


But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.
1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

This is good news if the death rate is going down in China. It could mean that they are finding better ways to treat people. Do you have a link for this? This news would really be good.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s already here. It spreads like a cold— very easily. When they start testing and announcing local cases this week, please try to remember that the vast majority of them are mild.

It is scary, but nonstop tracking of the newest cases isn’t doing anyone’s anxiety any good. It’s everywhere already, and we are all still alive.

They’re not testing people who present with a mild cold. Only those very ill and that do not test positive for the flu. ( also dumb since it’s possible to have both and that combo is more deadly to the patient).

So that vast majority you’re talking about are walking around, going to work, going to schools and daycares, shopping at the grocery store, making your burger and fries, etc.

And they will recover without issues but may have spread it to you, your child or your parents who may not recover from it.

[Anonymous]

I'm over 60 in average health. WHO warned this weekend that people over 60 should
"Try to avoid crowded areas, or places where you might interact with people who are sick."

That's really hard to implement preemptively since I have grandchildren who are always sick and, frankly, anyone could be an asymptomatic carrier of COVID-19. I think some people are just doomed. I guess I'll wait until they admit the first case in our area and then go into hiding.

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What I havent seen here recently is that the seriously ill don't become seriously ill for 1 to 2 weeks after the initial symptoms start. There are some saying it's a good thing us Americans arent getting sick like those filthy foreigners. What they are missing is that we are just a week or two behind them. If we don't implement mitigation measures NOW, we will overwhelm our medical system in a month.

Without testing, we are completely in the dark and wasting precious time to actually learn from outbreaks in other countries.

Look, no one is saying we have to shut down our cities, we are saying let's take some limited action now, like encouraging telework and starting remote classes for middle and high schools, so we can slow it down.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What I havent seen here recently is that the seriously ill don't become seriously ill for 1 to 2 weeks after the initial symptoms start. There are some saying it's a good thing us Americans arent getting sick like those filthy foreigners. What they are missing is that we are just a week or two behind them. If we don't implement mitigation measures NOW, we will overwhelm our medical system in a month.

Without testing, we are completely in the dark and wasting precious time to actually learn from outbreaks in other countries.

Look, no one is saying we have to shut down our cities, we are saying let's take some limited action now, like encouraging telework and starting remote classes for middle and high schools, so we can slow it down.

Yes, at the very minimum let’s take some basic precautions and actually TEST people.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.

But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.

1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

We don't really know the numerator or the denominator yet to calculate a death rate. We're just starting to identify the "stealth" cases that were not tested for before. China might have a better handle on that since their cases are more mature.

Background please? I ask because my information is as solid as it gets.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm over 60 in average health. WHO warned this weekend that people over 60 should
"Try to avoid crowded areas, or places where you might interact with people who are sick."

That's really hard to implement preemptively since I have grandchildren who are always sick and, frankly, anyone could be an asymptomatic carrier of COVID-19. I think some people are just doomed. I guess I'll wait until they admit the first case in our area and then go into hiding.

Seriously, can you not avoid your grandchildren for just a few weeks?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.

But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.

1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

We don't really know the numerator or the denominator yet to calculate a death rate. We're just starting to identify the "stealth" cases that were not tested for before. China might have a better handle on that since their cases are more mature.

Background please? I ask because my information is as solid as it gets.

DP. Please share your “solid information” for a 1% death rate here in the US? And explain how you have a valid sample size.

We are *just* starting to test. It’s way too early to calculate the “death rate”. Sure, you can do the math but it’s not meaningful until more people are tested and the virus has run its course with a larger population.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.

But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.

1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

We don't really know the numerator or the denominator yet to calculate a death rate. We're just starting to identify the "stealth" cases that were not tested for before. China might have a better handle on that since their cases are more mature.

Background please? I ask because my information is as solid as it gets.

Np. Currently the death rate is about 7%. You have to compare recovered numbers vs those who have died. We don’t have enough information yet because we don’t have enough that have recovered.

And once ICU and ventilators are taken up, death rates will sky rocket. We don’t have enough for people to be on ventilators for 2-6 weeks.

[Anonymous]

^sorry this morning it’s at 6% not 7% for the death rate. There’s a huge difference in the rate of deaths with hospital interventions vs without.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can't help but wonder if many cases with flu-like symptoms are actually Coronavirus that are not diagnosed since they are not testing for it.

But also curious if it is here and there is no major commotion at any place so either it is here and lots of vry mild cases or few mild and very few serious that do not differ much from usual cases of tough flu or pneumonia with the same outcome rate.

1% death rate here, very possibly less, as new cases in China death rates are about .7%

We don't really know the numerator or the denominator yet to calculate a death rate. We're just starting to identify the "stealth" cases that were not tested for before. China might have a better handle on that since their cases are more mature.

Background please? I ask because my information is as solid as it gets.

Np. Currently the death rate is about 7%. You have to compare recovered numbers vs those who have died. We don’t have enough information yet because we don’t have enough that have recovered.

And once ICU and ventilators are taken up, death rates will sky rocket. We don’t have enough for people to be on ventilators for 2-6 weeks.

Background please?

[Anonymous]

Italy exports cases to two more countries--Portugal and Andorra, both with their first cases. This brings export countries to about 33.

Moscow also reporting its first case--Russia has not reported any new cases beyond their original 2 weeks ago. No details, but could also be related to Italy.