Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

[Anonymous]

Yep. Those staged pictures of Charles, Harry and William are at the Queen's Sandringham Estate.

A 20,000 acre private park for the royals. No one releases photos of the royals close-up at Sandringham without palace directives.

Prince Charles, Prince William And Prince Harry ( With Toy Gun ) On Bikes Going To The Stables, At Sandringham Estate, In Norfolk. (Photo by Julian Parker/UK Press via Getty Images)

https://www.gettyimages.co.nz/detail/news-photo/prince-charles-prince-william-and-prince-harry-on-bikes-news-photo/158066312

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find the whole story about therapy really, really weird? It's well known (at least here in the UK), that Charles pushed Diana to go to therapy, that William and Harry went to therapy after their mother passed (they've both spoken publicly about this), that Kate went to therapy with her brother when he was very depressed. Meghan said that she told everyone and no one was willing to help. Harry then said he told no one, not even his family. She couldn't have called up her OBGYN to ask for a referral? A private doctor? Harry's therapist? It makes no sense to me.

This is a really good point!

Maybe they know how to support therapy but not immediate emergency suicide needs?
Maybe Harry and Meghan’s closest team members (whoever she emailed?) felt vulnerable to the info getting out?
Maybe because it came by email they didn’t think it was so urgent? I’m not sure what happened, but you do raise some good questions.

I wonder about the doctors? That's a pretty big family. They could likely have a specialist to cover the lot of them. And if they're part of the 'machine' and there's some distrust, they could have downplayed or ignored her concerns or sent her to HR/Toby...

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

WTF?

This is basically the definition of racism. Are you trying to be ironic? I know it’s an anonymous site but dam, you are racist.

DP - perhaps deliberately snide and clueless. Anything to defend the royals.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced not only did the Royals not want the biracial/black one to have a child in the first place (they were itching to write 'she's barren' articles but she got pregnant too quickly) but they wanted to punish Meghan for duping them - so they tried to take the only thing they could - the baby's security and HRH.

If he was old enough to school they would have refused to pay for it.

This is bullshit. Archie is the great grandchild of the Monarch. No great grandchildren have princely titles. That is how it is. When they become grandchildren of the monarch - when Charles ascends to the throne - they will get security.

Williams children do

George is currently third in line.

And what are Beatrice and Eugenie? Andrew? Like 10 15?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find the whole story about therapy really, really weird? It's well known (at least here in the UK), that Charles pushed Diana to go to therapy, that William and Harry went to therapy after their mother passed (they've both spoken publicly about this), that Kate went to therapy with her brother when he was very depressed. Meghan said that she told everyone and no one was willing to help. Harry then said he told no one, not even his family. She couldn't have called up her OBGYN to ask for a referral? A private doctor? Harry's therapist? It makes no sense to me.

This is a really good point!

Maybe they know how to support therapy but not immediate emergency suicide needs?
Maybe Harry and Meghan’s closest team members (whoever she emailed?) felt vulnerable to the info getting out?
Maybe because it came by email they didn’t think it was so urgent? I’m not sure what happened, but you do raise some good questions.

I am guessing everyone thought it was a theatric ploy. Not saying that's right, but I definitely think that was a big part of it.

She called herself incredibly, incredibly brave a million times in that interview for going to HR.

They called the Royal Family's bluff with their quick exit and they truly seemed in complete shock that they were actually cut off.

And to that, I ask this again:

I mean, Harry said he was ashamed (or embarrassed, I don't remember the exact word) to tell his family. What kind of man wouldn't put his wife in the car (yes, they have private cars that they can drive whenever they want) and take her to an emergency room as soon as she told him?

People who grew up in a family cult.

I love all the Megan bashing here. If this was on the family forum, everyone would be hating the family and telling OP (Megan) that she was completely justified to cut off her inlaws. SMH.

He literally co-founded Heads Together!! ARGH.

His family (aka the institution) had always done charity, but they were not ever the recipients of charity. It's different when it's hitting home. I think he was honest, and she clearly had forgiven him. Let's be real, TRF is a dysfunctional mess. He realized it, maybe a bit late, and got out.

[Anonymous]

Few takeaways I don't understand:

1) I think the mention of having a private ceremony a few days before the actual wedding was a last-ditch effort to redeem themselves after indulging in a huge, opulent wedding on the taxpayer's dime and then fleeing after a year. Makes it seem like they were forced into the big wedding, but no one forced them to invite 100 random Hollywood celebrities they'd never met before.

2) Didn't Diana have suicidal thoughts and act on them? You would think once Harry found out about Meghan's he would rush her to any sort of aid he could find. Instead he basically told her to email HR?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She has credibility issues. There is no way she wasn't obsessed with Princess Di and the royal family. We already know this.
That said, do I believe she suffered while under their thumb? Yes.
I'm happy they can live in peace, but please, stop putting your selves out there. Please take your family and live in peace on your compound. Enjoy your freedom, live with gratitude.

Why do yall white women think every girl and woman was obsessed with Princess Di. Please take this kindly, we were not. Weird. The only reason I watched Meghan's wedding was because of Doria and I wanted to see if the firm integrated, if barely. I did not follow her again until she left for Canada and I started reading about all the hate she received. When I spoke to a cousin in London, she briefed me about British media and the hate she had received. It seems like DCUM is no different than the British tabloids. Full of hate, lies and innuendos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone else here wonder whether the apparent concern about how dark the baby would be could actually have been a rather off-colour joke? I don't think most Americans get British humour, particularly that of older generations where racist stereotypes were seen as harmless good fun even if said without malice.

WTF?

This is basically the definition of racism. Are you trying to be ironic? I know it’s an anonymous site but dam, you are racist.

DP - perhaps deliberately snide and clueless. Anything to defend the royals.

FYI there is no way that racist stereotypes are “harmless” or “good fun.” They are very malicious.

[Anonymous]

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I think what Harry is talking about is being able to do it in public - to go out on a normal street and bike ride with his son. Its clear as day those pictures of Charles were staged on palace grounds - whether that's Highgrove, Sandringham, or Balmoral we don't know. But having your father pick you up in between his trips to see his mistress and take you to a 30,000-acre estate for official photographs is not what Harry had in mind for father-son time.

I think you know perfectly well that Harry isn't going on bike rides with Archie on normal streets. They live in a heavily guarded, gated, private community. If you want to extend your imagination, it's not completely unlike a royal estate. Large, private and safe.

I also think it's not right to discount everything taking place within royal estates as "abnormal". Sandringham and Balmoral are their private playgrounds. Meghan and Harry aren't taking Archie to a public playground or a county rec center pool you know. They have their own.

The point (that you are trying your best to excuse and explain away) is that Harry has indeed been taken on bike rides by his parents.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What about the passport and car keys thing? I have to think there's more to the story than that. Kate drives her kids to school or the pottery painting place, Meghan went to NYC twice for her baby shower and the US Open, they went on vacations outside of the country, but they took her passport away?

During the wedding coverage they said she had to relinquish her citizenship. So I thought she had an EU/British passport. I was actually shocked to hear she got it back. Means she didn't renounce her American citizenship (luckily).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Few takeaways I don't understand:

1) I think the mention of having a private ceremony a few days before the actual wedding was a last-ditch effort to redeem themselves after indulging in a huge, opulent wedding on the taxpayer's dime and then fleeing after a year. Makes it seem like they were forced into the big wedding, but no one forced them to invite 100 random Hollywood celebrities they'd never met before.

2) Didn't Diana have suicidal thoughts and act on them? You would think once Harry found out about Meghan's he would rush her to any sort of aid he could find. Instead he basically told her to email HR?

1) ROFL. Yes, Oprah herself was just invited to that thing they had to do for the public.

2) She emailed HR so she could have receipts. Everything is in writing with this one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Few takeaways I don't understand:

1) I think the mention of having a private ceremony a few days before the actual wedding was a last-ditch effort to redeem themselves after indulging in a huge, opulent wedding on the taxpayer's dime and then fleeing after a year. Makes it seem like they were forced into the big wedding, but no one forced them to invite 100 random Hollywood celebrities they'd never met before.

2) Didn't Diana have suicidal thoughts and act on them? You would think once Harry found out about Meghan's he would rush her to any sort of aid he could find. Instead he basically told her to email HR?

Uhhh Harry quit being a working royal and moved her across the ocean to Canada and eventually California. I’d say that qualifies as taking it seriously.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm convinced not only did the Royals not want the biracial/black one to have a child in the first place (they were itching to write 'she's barren' articles but she got pregnant too quickly) but they wanted to punish Meghan for duping them - so they tried to take the only thing they could - the baby's security and HRH.

If he was old enough to school they would have refused to pay for it.

This is bullshit. Archie is the great grandchild of the Monarch. No great grandchildren have princely titles. That is how it is. When they become grandchildren of the monarch - when Charles ascends to the throne - they will get security.

Williams children do

George is currently third in line.

And what are Beatrice and Eugenie? Andrew? Like 10 15?

Lesson time!

Queen and Prince Philip - obviously they get a title

Children of the Queen (Charles, Anne, Andrew, Edward) - they get a title

Children of the children of the Queen - they are all allowed to get a title. Charles and Andrew opted for the (allowed) Prince and Princess. Edward and Sophie asked for a lesser title so the children would have more opportunities since they would most likely never become working Royals. They are titled as Lady Louis and James, Viscount Severn. Anne refused a title for her children.

Children of the children of the Prince of Wales - discussed above

[Anonymous]

So if they disband the monarchy then they're really SOL because they're definitely getting cut off. They are playing with fire.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Obviously the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

There is a difference between what Americans "know" about the Royals - even those who follow the Royals - and the protocols and internal procedures that govern within the Royal family. You don't fully know how it's going to be until you're in it. For example, I thought her point about being surprised at having to curtsy to the Queen in private is understandable.

It seems like the crux of the disagreement is that Harry's family, when presented with the opportunity to act as his family, instead fell back on Royal protocol and the Institution and that was very hurtful to him. I can sort of see his point. The press was attacking Meghan and all sorts of racial issues were surfacing which put things in a different light than the typical bad press that other members of the family had received. His family refused to defend them and refused to provide security for Archie. That may be protocol, but his point seemed to be that circumstances warranted a change from the protocol and his family refused. Instead of being treated like Harry, a loved member of the family and the son of Princess Diana and the future King who was concerned about his wife and son's well-being in part due to the actions, or lack thereof, of his family vis-a-vis the press, he was treated at arms-length. Then, once he stepped down, he was denied his own security detail and his father cut him off.

I imagine that chain of events would be really hurtful to most people who have been led to believe that they are an important and valued member of a "family."

Quoting this because this is very well said, and how anyone (on DCUM or otherwise) can argue that they wouldn't have done the same in this situation is truly mind-blowing. Using the example in this thread of Kate vs Meghan in the press... it's not about what the press said, it's about the response (or lack thereof) from the family.

You and Meghan must have missed that little media clip above where the Palace DID, in fact, respond.

They said "there's no feud between Meghan and Kate." That's not the issue. The issue is the blatantly discriminatory treatment of Meghan that they tolerated silently.