Meghan Markle and Prince Harry News and Updates Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:Waiting to see how long it takes Charles to put out a statement and throw William under the bus.

Oh, wow! I didn't think the Queen or Phillip/their courtiers would even feel the need to deny it, but I guess they did. William and Charles must really be feeling the pressure.

No, the Queen didn't deny this.

This was Oprah's clarification, "at Harry's request".

They really don't want the Queen to cut them off.

Haven't you been listening and reading. He has been cut off since March 2020. He was permanently cut off last week. So there's that. Thank goodness his mother Diana left him money and he was able to use it to get his family out of the British Mafia.

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Anonymous wrote:I find this interesting:

"I guess the highlight for me is sticking him on the back of a bicycle in his little baby seat and taking him on bike rides which is something I was never able to do when I was young" - Prince Harry





And this...

Yes, thank you! I was wondering why I see no media fact checkers on this stuff today.

Media knows DCUM is on the case.

At your service . I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what's been covered but I can do many more - the titles and the Letters Patent, Charles' plan to slim down the monarchy which he's been talking about since the 90s, how the taxpayers pay for security, the British media coming out in droves to say that Buckingham Palace has shut down many, many stories about M&H (some of them because they weren't true, some that were true), etc. etc.

It is cute how you found these photos but I think its entirely believable Harry was not intentionally lying. I remember nothing pre age 6/7 and he could very well have zero recollection of this and have never seen the picture.

+1 also there is a difference between every once in a while getting to go on a bike ride with your parent, and it being a regular part of your life. clearly, that was what he was saying - that it wasn't a regular part of his life, and he wants it to be. also clearly bike riding isn't a literal thing - it's a synecdoche for ALL the ways that he didn't get to have a normal childhood, and how he wants his kids to have that.

Right. Because living in a multimillion-dollar mansion with your own poor and playground is what normal looks like.

It's just so nice for Harry that there are always people around ready to explain away all of his dufus moments.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find the whole story about therapy really, really weird? It's well known (at least here in the UK), that Charles pushed Diana to go to therapy, that William and Harry went to therapy after their mother passed (they've both spoken publicly about this), that Kate went to therapy with her brother when he was very depressed. Meghan said that she told everyone and no one was willing to help. Harry then said he told no one, not even his family. She couldn't have called up her OBGYN to ask for a referral? A private doctor? Harry's therapist? It makes no sense to me.

This is a really good point!

Maybe they know how to support therapy but not immediate emergency suicide needs?
Maybe Harry and Meghan’s closest team members (whoever she emailed?) felt vulnerable to the info getting out?
Maybe because it came by email they didn’t think it was so urgent? I’m not sure what happened, but you do raise some good questions.

I mean, Harry said he was ashamed (or embarrassed, I don't remember the exact word) to tell his family. What kind of man wouldn't put his wife in the car (yes, they have private cars that they can drive whenever they want) and take her to an emergency room as soon as she told him?

She's such a drama queen, no doubt all contrived to get him away from his family. She realized she wanted out at all costs, so obvious.....

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Here’s what happened:

She wanted to seek therapy abroad—perhaps Canada where her friends were—and the palace said no to that...Canada. As we know, that’s where they ultimately went.

I think they were careful with their word choice in case anything comes out to the contrary.

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I didn’t think about it, but whoever said “it” knows Harry could reveal it at any time now.
Warning signal?

Tbh I don’t think that’s how it was meant.
But now that it’s out there, all Harry needs to do is drop a name.

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What about the passport and car keys thing? I have to think there's more to the story than that. Kate drives her kids to school or the pottery painting place, Meghan went to NYC twice for her baby shower and the US Open, they went on vacations outside of the country, but they took her passport away?

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I’m not crazy about the narrative that they wouldnt get security and therefore were unsafe. They weren’t going to be GIFTED free security paid for by the crown and taxpayers. Of course they could have paid for their own security just like every other non-royal celebrity or globally prominent person does. Being without security was not actually going to happen. And no, they do not need extra security due to the kid being 1/4 black. I mean even Taylor Swift gets death threats FFS.

I think this really gets at the crux of the issue: the BRF as an institution is full of absurd contradictions and Catch-22's.

Taylor Swift pays for her own security because she's worked, made a ton of money, and is famous BECAUSE of her work. Harry/Meghan were not allowed to work or have a career unless they formally left the institution. Meanwhile, they and their son have very real security needs. Which were further amplified when the UK media started playing up the racist tropes in their headlines.

Another catch-22: why is a great-grandkid cut out of security when they are a child....but then gets the security once Charles becomes king? That's absurd. That child needs protection. Period. What an insane and illogical set of circumstances.

Finally, look at how miserable Philip/Anne/etc are in their lives. They have to go to their mother for money because they are not allowed to work. That's exactly what Harry/Meghan are trying to avoid - a life where they have to constantly ask William for money and live on the taxpayer dole until they die. The entire institution is preposterously outdated. If folks don't want them to be beholden to the largess of the taxpayer, they need to be able to establish a career. Harry is coming upon age 40 and has only another 10-20 to have a legitimate career. He's actually running out of time, hence why they forced the issue and moved.

Toxic, racist media environment constantly attacking your wife and child. No ability to work or make money. No future prospects or ability to pursue ambitions. And, finally, no one seriously considering mental health concerns.

Would you stick around?

I would have thought about that ahead of time and certainly not had a showy wedding and a carriage ride if I wanted no part of it all.

If toxic and racist media is a concern, the last place you’d go is settle down in a $15 million dollar Los Angeles mansion, right up the street from Oprah.

The area is not Bethesda or Capitol Hill. It's a gated and enclosed community with security.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find the whole story about therapy really, really weird? It's well known (at least here in the UK), that Charles pushed Diana to go to therapy, that William and Harry went to therapy after their mother passed (they've both spoken publicly about this), that Kate went to therapy with her brother when he was very depressed. Meghan said that she told everyone and no one was willing to help. Harry then said he told no one, not even his family. She couldn't have called up her OBGYN to ask for a referral? A private doctor? Harry's therapist? It makes no sense to me.

This is a really good point!

Maybe they know how to support therapy but not immediate emergency suicide needs?
Maybe Harry and Meghan’s closest team members (whoever she emailed?) felt vulnerable to the info getting out?
Maybe because it came by email they didn’t think it was so urgent? I’m not sure what happened, but you do raise some good questions.

I am guessing everyone thought it was a theatric ploy. Not saying that's right, but I definitely think that was a big part of it.

She called herself incredibly, incredibly brave a million times in that interview for going to HR.

They called the Royal Family's bluff with their quick exit and they truly seemed in complete shock that they were actually cut off.

And to that, I ask this again:

I mean, Harry said he was ashamed (or embarrassed, I don't remember the exact word) to tell his family. What kind of man wouldn't put his wife in the car (yes, they have private cars that they can drive whenever they want) and take her to an emergency room as soon as she told him?

People who grew up in a family cult.

I love all the Megan bashing here. If this was on the family forum, everyone would be hating the family and telling OP (Megan) that she was completely justified to cut off her inlaws. SMH.

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Anonymous wrote:My dear dcumers, you are so totally naive and blind.
Here is what is happening here, and it is plain and simple.

Harry blames the RBF for his mother's death, and before that, he blames them for how it was handled. He blames his dad and his grandma for all of it.
And they are to blame!
He is out for revenge, and he is taking them down.
You know the same way most of the dcum cuts off their parents and families cause they are toxic? Stop being hypocrites here; BRF is toxic; if they were your family, you would cut them off.
Also, it seems that Harry is not a spineless twit, regardless of what he might sound like. He is out for blood and blood he is getting. Why should he and Meghan take it quietly and be a good sport about it? Think about it, they crucified his mother, and for what? For wanting to have a real marriage and not turning a blind eye? Watch the documentary on Disney+, in her own words. What was done to Diana is nothing short of criminal behavior.
I, for one, am proud of him.

Diana died because she got in a car with a drunk driver and chose not to wear a seatbelt.

If she had remained under royal protection, she would never have got in that car.

And if she never married Charles, she wouldn’t have been chased by paparazzi. Most people understand that, if you let yourself be driven by a drunk driver and choose not to wear a seatbelt, you could die. Sadly, that fact of life applies to everyone, even beautiful princesses.

If she never married Charles, she would not have developed the human capital to be sought after by a wealthy Egyptian drug addict.

Truly sad her judgement was off the charts. Should have been home with her family instead of seeing a guy that was engaged to be married. And not a good one either.

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Anonymous wrote:Megan pinned it on Harry - “Harry communicated to me that there were concerns about baby’s color”

This is hearsay. Did Harry confirm that? Did he actually say that?

This doesn't make any sense. Why would you have concerns about something you can do nothing about?

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Anonymous wrote:I find this interesting:

"I guess the highlight for me is sticking him on the back of a bicycle in his little baby seat and taking him on bike rides which is something I was never able to do when I was young" - Prince Harry





And this...

Yes, thank you! I was wondering why I see no media fact checkers on this stuff today.

Media knows DCUM is on the case.

At your service . I haven't read the whole thread so I don't know what's been covered but I can do many more - the titles and the Letters Patent, Charles' plan to slim down the monarchy which he's been talking about since the 90s, how the taxpayers pay for security, the British media coming out in droves to say that Buckingham Palace has shut down many, many stories about M&H (some of them because they weren't true, some that were true), etc. etc.

It is cute how you found these photos but I think its entirely believable Harry was not intentionally lying. I remember nothing pre age 6/7 and he could very well have zero recollection of this and have never seen the picture.

+1 also there is a difference between every once in a while getting to go on a bike ride with your parent, and it being a regular part of your life. clearly, that was what he was saying - that it wasn't a regular part of his life, and he wants it to be. also clearly bike riding isn't a literal thing - it's a synecdoche for ALL the ways that he didn't get to have a normal childhood, and how he wants his kids to have that.

Right. Because living in a multimillion-dollar mansion with your own poor and playground is what normal looks like.

It's just so nice for Harry that there are always people around ready to explain away all of his dufus moments.

I think what Harry is talking about is being able to do it in public - to go out on a normal street and bike ride with his son. Its clear as day those pictures of Charles were staged on palace grounds - whether that's Highgrove, Sandringham, or Balmoral we don't know. But having your father pick you up in between his trips to see his mistress and take you to a 30,000-acre estate for official photographs is not what Harry had in mind for father-son time.

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Anonymous wrote:Harry is going to be unhappy until he reconciles with his family which may be out of the question now. It’s going to be ugly. I’m not sure I can make sense out of Meghan’s claims that she had no idea what the royal family was like. It’s pretty unbelievable.

You thought she should know that they would confiscate her passport and drivers license and not let her go to lunch without permission?

I thought she should know that yes you curtsy to the queen and that you give up a lot of personal freedoms, absolutely.

Her claim that she thought it was just going to be like normal in meeting a boyfriend’s grandmother is laughable, also that she never googled anything about the royal family prior to/while dating Harry. It diminishes some of her credibility for the more serious allegations.

As an actress isn't it sort of job #1 to figure out everything about the character of those around you? Well informed adds nuance to the role.

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Just because people don’t believe Meghan, doesn’t make them racist.

It's kind of like this, but substitute race for fashion.

I'm going to ask this again.
You don't think it's possible to criticise any person of color? At all? Ever?

A graphic designer who does their job well? Awesome.
A graphic designer who doesn't taken direction? Not great.
A nurse who is on top of her job? Awesome.
A nurse who doesn't reorder supplies, sits on her phone during busy times. Not great.

If all of them are people of color, what do you do my friend? #2 and #4 are just fine?

I posted the video. Of course you can criticize a person of color. I'm not saying that. I am troubled by the posts that assert conjecture as fact, twist logic upside down, refuse to be corrected when their facts are wrong, and create this whole persona of someone that they nothing about except what they've learned through the media-- all without enough self-awareness to realize that everything they believe has come to them through a filter that displayed explicitly racist views.

I'm a Meghan defender, but I try to be open-minded, recognize what I don't know, and make my points honestly. I admit a bias is giving her the benefit of the doubt when there isn't proof otherwise, because that what humans should do for each other. (I also don't think wealth or material things insulate people from loneliness, confusion, emotional pain, etc.)

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone find the whole story about therapy really, really weird? It's well known (at least here in the UK), that Charles pushed Diana to go to therapy, that William and Harry went to therapy after their mother passed (they've both spoken publicly about this), that Kate went to therapy with her brother when he was very depressed. Meghan said that she told everyone and no one was willing to help. Harry then said he told no one, not even his family. She couldn't have called up her OBGYN to ask for a referral? A private doctor? Harry's therapist? It makes no sense to me.

This is a really good point!

Maybe they know how to support therapy but not immediate emergency suicide needs?
Maybe Harry and Meghan’s closest team members (whoever she emailed?) felt vulnerable to the info getting out?
Maybe because it came by email they didn’t think it was so urgent? I’m not sure what happened, but you do raise some good questions.

I am guessing everyone thought it was a theatric ploy. Not saying that's right, but I definitely think that was a big part of it.

She called herself incredibly, incredibly brave a million times in that interview for going to HR.

They called the Royal Family's bluff with their quick exit and they truly seemed in complete shock that they were actually cut off.

And to that, I ask this again:

I mean, Harry said he was ashamed (or embarrassed, I don't remember the exact word) to tell his family. What kind of man wouldn't put his wife in the car (yes, they have private cars that they can drive whenever they want) and take her to an emergency room as soon as she told him?

People who grew up in a family cult.

I love all the Megan bashing here. If this was on the family forum, everyone would be hating the family and telling OP (Megan) that she was completely justified to cut off her inlaws. SMH.

He literally co-founded Heads Together!! ARGH.

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Anonymous wrote:Megan pinned it on Harry - “Harry communicated to me that there were concerns about baby’s color”

This is hearsay. Did Harry confirm that? Did he actually say that?

Harry confirmed this in the interview