Will Trump drop Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:Just leaving this here -

More evidence that the left can’t meme.

I think it’s very funny. But I’m Gen X. My kids wouldn’t get it.

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I've done a 180 on this. I desperately want him to stay on the ticket.

Come on everybody, let's all give a cheer for Vance! You can do it, JD!

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t think of a reasonable scenario in which he keeps him but Trump doesn’t do the reasonable thing.

It if happens, it would happen during the DNC in order to attract attention away from it or maybe just after. Vance will announce he is unable to continue on the ticket. Now, the reason will be tricky because he can't say he needs to focus on his family nor will he likely fall on his sword and say he is a distraction because he has his whole career ahead of him. Trump will say it is too bad because he was the best VP pick in the history of VP picks. Of course this won't happen unless Trump has someone else locked in to be VP. Carson may be the only person politically dumb enough to agree and he is only marginally better. Haley is the wildcard and could make the biggest difference.

But then the question is did Vance sign some sort of NDA, because he will then become a liability in the future.

Yes, I am just scenario-ing all this out in my head based on prior observations.

There’s a reason that the actual delegates are voting starting this week and not at the DNC. Several states ballot deadlines will have passed. By the DNC, it will be too late to pull Vance off the ballot in a couple of red states nd, oh yeah, OHIO. I don’t get how people are missing that 8/7, the Ohio ballot deadline, locks both parties in.

+1 And Ohio actually matters to Trump who needs it to win. We weren’t getting it anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t think of a reasonable scenario in which he keeps him but Trump doesn’t do the reasonable thing.

It if happens, it would happen during the DNC in order to attract attention away from it or maybe just after. Vance will announce he is unable to continue on the ticket. Now, the reason will be tricky because he can't say he needs to focus on his family nor will he likely fall on his sword and say he is a distraction because he has his whole career ahead of him. Trump will say it is too bad because he was the best VP pick in the history of VP picks. Of course this won't happen unless Trump has someone else locked in to be VP. Carson may be the only person politically dumb enough to agree and he is only marginally better. Haley is the wildcard and could make the biggest difference.

But then the question is did Vance sign some sort of NDA, because he will then become a liability in the future.

Yes, I am just scenario-ing all this out in my head based on prior observations.

There’s a reason that the actual delegates are voting starting this week and not at the DNC. Several states ballot deadlines will have passed. By the DNC, it will be too late to pull Vance off the ballot in a couple of red states nd, oh yeah, OHIO. I don’t get how people are missing that 8/7, the Ohio ballot deadline, locks both parties in.

+1 And Ohio actually matters to Trump who needs it to win. We weren’t getting it anyway.

With Vance creeping people out, we might. If Sherrod Brown wins, which he likely will, the state will be in play... Trump REALLY needs Vance to stop acting so weird.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t think of a reasonable scenario in which he keeps him but Trump doesn’t do the reasonable thing.

It if happens, it would happen during the DNC in order to attract attention away from it or maybe just after. Vance will announce he is unable to continue on the ticket. Now, the reason will be tricky because he can't say he needs to focus on his family nor will he likely fall on his sword and say he is a distraction because he has his whole career ahead of him. Trump will say it is too bad because he was the best VP pick in the history of VP picks. Of course this won't happen unless Trump has someone else locked in to be VP. Carson may be the only person politically dumb enough to agree and he is only marginally better. Haley is the wildcard and could make the biggest difference.

But then the question is did Vance sign some sort of NDA, because he will then become a liability in the future.

Yes, I am just scenario-ing all this out in my head based on prior observations.

There’s a reason that the actual delegates are voting starting this week and not at the DNC. Several states ballot deadlines will have passed. By the DNC, it will be too late to pull Vance off the ballot in a couple of red states nd, oh yeah, OHIO. I don’t get how people are missing that 8/7, the Ohio ballot deadline, locks both parties in.

+1 And Ohio actually matters to Trump who needs it to win. We weren’t getting it anyway.

With Vance creeping people out, we might. If Sherrod Brown wins, which he likely will, the state will be in play... Trump REALLY needs Vance to stop acting so weird.

Or ... does he?

Maybe we can all agree that everything is going perfectly fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I can’t think of a reasonable scenario in which he keeps him but Trump doesn’t do the reasonable thing.

It if happens, it would happen during the DNC in order to attract attention away from it or maybe just after. Vance will announce he is unable to continue on the ticket. Now, the reason will be tricky because he can't say he needs to focus on his family nor will he likely fall on his sword and say he is a distraction because he has his whole career ahead of him. Trump will say it is too bad because he was the best VP pick in the history of VP picks. Of course this won't happen unless Trump has someone else locked in to be VP. Carson may be the only person politically dumb enough to agree and he is only marginally better. Haley is the wildcard and could make the biggest difference.

But then the question is did Vance sign some sort of NDA, because he will then become a liability in the future.

Yes, I am just scenario-ing all this out in my head based on prior observations.

There’s a reason that the actual delegates are voting starting this week and not at the DNC. Several states ballot deadlines will have passed. By the DNC, it will be too late to pull Vance off the ballot in a couple of red states nd, oh yeah, OHIO. I don’t get how people are missing that 8/7, the Ohio ballot deadline, locks both parties in.

+1 And Ohio actually matters to Trump who needs it to win. We weren’t getting it anyway.

With Vance creeping people out, we might. If Sherrod Brown wins, which he likely will, the state will be in play... Trump REALLY needs Vance to stop acting so weird.

Or ... does he?

Maybe we can all agree that everything is going perfectly fine.

Oh yeah, he should keep doing it, and I suspect he can't help himself. He's a seriously weird person, this is not an act.

But Trump needs him to stop.

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Would love JD to stay on the ticket. Lol

[Anonymous]

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Good lord, it's real.

Wow, he's got two brain cells and they're both fighting for third place.

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Good lord, it's real.

What's the big deal? Trump's ILs are all communists. Rs are now the pro-Russia party.

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His admission into Yale Law School is deeply suspicious. He is clearly not a genius, he is actually a transparent midwit who may have been one of the smarter students at a mediocre public school in Ohio. Did he ever mention his ACT, SAT or LSAT score in his memoir? I know military vet is a law school admissions hook but I'm wondering what other help he got. Do those right wing think tanks have a lot of clout in law school admissions? Maybe he also checked the foster care box?

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Anonymous wrote:His admission into Yale Law School is deeply suspicious. He is clearly not a genius, he is actually a transparent midwit who may have been one of the smarter students at a mediocre public school in Ohio. Did he ever mention his ACT, SAT or LSAT score in his memoir? I know military vet is a law school admissions hook but I'm wondering what other help he got. Do those right wing think tanks have a lot of clout in law school admissions? Maybe he also checked the foster care box?

In short, yes. And they provide scholarship money too.

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Anonymous wrote:His admission into Yale Law School is deeply suspicious. He is clearly not a genius, he is actually a transparent midwit who may have been one of the smarter students at a mediocre public school in Ohio. Did he ever mention his ACT, SAT or LSAT score in his memoir? I know military vet is a law school admissions hook but I'm wondering what other help he got. Do those right wing think tanks have a lot of clout in law school admissions? Maybe he also checked the foster care box?

There is no doubt a hypocritical conniver like him checked every diversity box he could to worm his way in.

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How did he graduate from Ohio State in two years? Is it because he took college classes while "serving" stateside in public affairs?

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Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/

Vance’s full comment* is damning but Monica Hesse really shows how slippery and disgusting Vance is. Hesse gives all the context of how both men and women experience domestic abuse, but that women victims get more serious abuse - choked, beaten up, raped, threatened with guns and women are far more likely to be murdered by their intimate partners. PP is right. Everyone should read this article. I took from it that the GOP is happy to dog whistle that abuse is NBD in the context of the far right wanting total control over women’s lives.

*“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like, ‘Well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.’” He went on to speculate that, “maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages.”

I read it differently. My takeaway was that Vance was a victim of DV as a child and in his talk was differentiating between blatant physical abuse and more subtle types that might benefit from treatment like couples counsels.

Vance himself was subjected to physical abuse.

Even worse. Couples counseling is contra indicated when there is abuse (not just physical) because there is an inherent power differential that the counselor may not be aware of and abusers are incredibly skilled at weaponizing therapy to their advantage.

It's fine that you don't know this. You're a random person on the internet. He wrote a book, is running for public office, and then circled back to defend his dangerous position when he has no idea what he's talking about. It's disgusting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/

Vance’s full comment* is damning but Monica Hesse really shows how slippery and disgusting Vance is. Hesse gives all the context of how both men and women experience domestic abuse, but that women victims get more serious abuse - choked, beaten up, raped, threatened with guns and women are far more likely to be murdered by their intimate partners. PP is right. Everyone should read this article. I took from it that the GOP is happy to dog whistle that abuse is NBD in the context of the far right wanting total control over women’s lives.

*“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like, ‘Well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.’” He went on to speculate that, “maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages.”

I read it differently. My takeaway was that Vance was a victim of DV as a child and in his talk was differentiating between blatant physical abuse and more subtle types that might benefit from treatment like couples counsels.

Vance himself was subjected to physical abuse.

Even worse. Couples counseling is contra indicated when there is abuse (not just physical) because there is an inherent power differential that the counselor may not be aware of and abusers are incredibly skilled at weaponizing therapy to their advantage.

It's fine that you don't know this. You're a random person on the internet. He wrote a book, is running for public office, and then circled back to defend his dangerous position when he has no idea what he's talking about. It's disgusting.

I wouldn’t have known this either but I also am not writing a book about it in ignorance like JD.