Will Trump drop Vance?

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Anonymous wrote:Monica Hesse wrote a very balanced opinion piece in the WaPo about Vance’s domestic violence comment. Here is the link if interested:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/style/power/2024/07/25/jd-vance-marriage-abuse-comment/

Vance’s full comment* is damning but Monica Hesse really shows how slippery and disgusting Vance is. Hesse gives all the context of how both men and women experience domestic abuse, but that women victims get more serious abuse - choked, beaten up, raped, threatened with guns and women are far more likely to be murdered by their intimate partners. PP is right. Everyone should read this article. I took from it that the GOP is happy to dog whistle that abuse is NBD in the context of the far right wanting total control over women’s lives.

*“This is one of the great tricks that I think the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace, which is the idea that, like, ‘Well, okay, these marriages were fundamentally, you know, they were maybe even violent, but certainly they were unhappy. And so getting rid of them and making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear, that’s going to make people happier in the long term.’” He went on to speculate that, “maybe it worked out for the moms and dads, though I’m skeptical. But it really didn’t work out for the kids of those marriages.”

I read it differently. My takeaway was that Vance was a victim of DV as a child and in his talk was differentiating between blatant physical abuse and more subtle types that might benefit from treatment like couples counsels.

Vance himself was subjected to physical abuse.

Let’s be clear: he was saying it in the context of a discussion about no-fault divorce, and in a world where abuse doesn’t flow equally between genders. Women are and always have been significantly more likely to be harmed or killed by partners than the reverse. No-fault divorce makes women safer. Given the context, his very clear implication was that we should considering rolling it back.

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More evidence that the left can’t meme.

The "I know you are but what am I?" defense. Very convincing.

Nope. Simply confirming the fact that the left can’t meme.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump is measuring VP candidates against Jan 6. He doesn’t want another Pence who will not help him overthrow the government to do what he wants. He knows Haley would vote to 25th amendment him five seconds after being sworn in. She’s ambitious and a snake.

Carson is BORING. Talk about bad TV. Carson does nothing for the Blue Wall states. Carson will not attract black men the same way Sarah Palin didn’t attract white women.

Yeah, I don't understand the talk about Carson on here.

Do you understand why Trump picked Vance? I mean, none of this makes sense.

Sort of. Especially with the Biden/Harris ticket. He's young, just won a Senate seat, wrote a bestseller. He's a veteran. His wife is of Indian descent so that checks the, see we're not racist box. He's from Ohio and sort of Kentucky, so you have the Midwest and Southern tie in.

Best seller lists are fake, especially when you’re a media and think tank creation. Very few people in real life read this Sackler crisis PR & open border propaganda rubbish.

And let's all be quite clear that the Republicans have played a huge role in not letting anything get done about the border.

During Biden's term in office, Democrats tried to introduce almost 300 pieces of legislation to improve border security, crack down on human trafficking and smuggling. With Republicans controlling the House, the only things that were passed were provisions included in appropriations bills that only got passed to prevent a government shutdown.

https://www.congress.gov/search?q=%7B%22source%22%3A%22legislation%22%2C%22search%22%3A%22%5C%22border+security%5C%22%22%2C%22party%22%3A%22Democratic%22%2C%22congress%22%3A%5B%22118%22%2C%22117%22%5D%7D

I hope the Democrats put this message in campaign ads. I don’t think people realize how Republicans have blocked so much border legislation.

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Anonymous wrote:The “she’s not a white woman but she’s a good mom” line is so unbelievable.

I think he get dropped after Kamala picks a VP but that will make Trump look weak

Where is this line from?

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Funny!

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Dems should lean hard and loud on the advice that he has to drop Vance to win, and that choosing him was a mistake. That's the best way to ensure Trump will feel he has to keep him.

Trump never wants to look weak. Force him to own this one.

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Anonymous wrote:He’s only 39, so he grew up with Facebook and camera phones, yet no history of any women before his wife? This sounds like an arranged marriage.

Eh. I only had one serious relationship before my husband (and same for him) and I’m not gay or in an arranged marriage. Though I wouldn’t care if either were true for Vance. I care about his policies and misogyny, not who he’s slept with.

Experience matters though—nothing about Trump's personal history suggests he has any understanding of how most Americans view family, sexuality or relationships. Given that, if Trump is elected, Vance will likely be sworn in as president by spring of 2026, it matters if he is the same.

Tons of people have been very happy to vote for Trump although he has never lived the values they claim are important to them.

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More evidence that the left can’t meme.

More evidence that you're a sourpuss. It's freakin hilarious!

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Anonymous wrote:He’s only 39, so he grew up with Facebook and camera phones, yet no history of any women before his wife? This sounds like an arranged marriage.

Eh. I only had one serious relationship before my husband (and same for him) and I’m not gay or in an arranged marriage. Though I wouldn’t care if either were true for Vance. I care about his policies and misogyny, not who he’s slept with.

Experience matters though—nothing about Trump's personal history suggests he has any understanding of how most Americans view family, sexuality or relationships. Given that, if Trump is elected, Vance will likely be sworn in as president by spring of 2026, it matters if he is the same.

Tons of people have been very happy to vote for Trump although he has never lived the values they claim are important to them.

They are in a delusional cult. The Trump that they think they see, the Trump that they believe in is completely different from the one we have in reality.

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Any sane Presidential candidate would drop a VP pick who hangs out with Nazi enthusiasts.

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Anonymous wrote:Any sane Presidential candidate would drop a VP pick who hangs out with Nazi enthusiasts.

No one has ever accused trump of being sane. Nazi memorabilia is red meat for the R base.

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Anonymous wrote:The “she’s not a white woman but she’s a good mom” line is so unbelievable.

I think he get dropped after Kamala picks a VP but that will make Trump look weak

Where is this line from?

Ah ah I'm loving this circus.

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Good lord, it's real.

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Anonymous wrote:I can’t think of a reasonable scenario in which he keeps him but Trump doesn’t do the reasonable thing.

It if happens, it would happen during the DNC in order to attract attention away from it or maybe just after. Vance will announce he is unable to continue on the ticket. Now, the reason will be tricky because he can't say he needs to focus on his family nor will he likely fall on his sword and say he is a distraction because he has his whole career ahead of him. Trump will say it is too bad because he was the best VP pick in the history of VP picks. Of course this won't happen unless Trump has someone else locked in to be VP. Carson may be the only person politically dumb enough to agree and he is only marginally better. Haley is the wildcard and could make the biggest difference.

But then the question is did Vance sign some sort of NDA, because he will then become a liability in the future.

Yes, I am just scenario-ing all this out in my head based on prior observations.

There’s a reason that the actual delegates are voting starting this week and not at the DNC. Several states ballot deadlines will have passed. By the DNC, it will be too late to pull Vance off the ballot in a couple of red states nd, oh yeah, OHIO. I don’t get how people are missing that 8/7, the Ohio ballot deadline, locks both parties in.