Conservative DCUM'ers: how far back do you want LGBTQ rights rolled back?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


Per the Supreme Court, trans discrimination is sex discrimination. This ship has already sailed.

Also, drag queens aren’t always trans. They’re gay men who perform in drag.
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.


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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.


You have a 1 in 33 chance in DC that the other woman in the bathroom with you is a transgender woman. That's because 3% of the population of DC is transgender. Assuming you live in DC or ever even visit. The suburbs also contain a high percent of trans people.

And? Have you been to college or send a kid? The bathroom are the bathrooms. They are not separated by sex or gender or graduating year or height or anything othere than do you have to pee or not. Relax.


DP. What on earth are you talking about? Some colleges might have unisex bathrooms, but the vast majority have designated women's and men's bathrooms. I have two kids in college right now. You sure do have an agenda...
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.


You have a 1 in 33 chance in DC that the other woman in the bathroom with you is a transgender woman. That's because 3% of the population of DC is transgender. Assuming you live in DC or ever even visit. The suburbs also contain a high percent of trans people.

And? Have you been to college or send a kid? The bathroom are the bathrooms. They are not separated by sex or gender or graduating year or height or anything othere than do you have to pee or not. Relax.


This is not true everywhere. Or, even in most.

This shows the progressive bubble that PP lives in if they believe all colleges are like Vassar.


Seriously.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


Per the Supreme Court, trans discrimination is sex discrimination. This ship has already sailed.

Also, drag queens aren’t always trans. They’re gay men who perform in drag.

Nice try, liar. That’s not what SCOTUS says. You’ll be crying soon enough when they ban you and your penis from women’s spaces. Make sure to be consistent and not claim they’re “illegitimate” then!
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Anonymous wrote:NP. I don’t want any rights rolled back for anyone, and that includes women.

This is a contentious issue because women’s sex-based rights are being destroyed in favor of male-bodied people’s gender-based rights. If you continually tell people that rape survivors need to be comfortable with people with penises in rape crisis centers because the feelings of the people with penises matter more than the rape survivors, expect pushback from across the political spectrum.

If trans activists didn’t make the destruction of women’s sex-based rights a key part of their platform, there would be a lot less pushback.


Nobody says that ever. Stop making up imaginary things to be angry about.


Oh, so you are in favor of allowing women to enforce sex-based restrictions to places like women’s rape crisis centers? You are in favor of allowing a rape crisis center to require staff be female-bodies?

Are you in favor of allowing women to legally enforce their rights to single sex-based spaces? Yes or no?


Are you talking about England or the DMV? Have there been reported issues in DC of trans women going to rape crisis centers and cis women complaining? I know a couple of the pp’s like to post things about other countries.


Answer the question, please. It is not specific to rape crisis centers.

Are you in favor of allowing women to legally enforce their rights to single sex-based spaces? Yes or no?


No, the general population is not law enforcement and can’t legally enforce laws. This should be obvious.


You are deliberately avoiding the question, which tells me all I need to know.

Let’s say a Korean immigrant to the US has pooled together some hard-earned cash and wants to open a spa in Washington state using traditional Korean spa practices, which involve total nudity of all customers in a shared room. Should male-bodied people be allowed access to that space? Yes or no? Does that owner have the right to build a business based on sex-based access? Yes or no?


Now you’re just lying. Everyone can read your question. I answered it. You wanted to know if cisgender women could “legally enforce” laws. No. The answer is no.


Okay, let’s rephrase it since you are being deliberately obtuse. Are you in favor of women using the legal system to legally enforce their rights to single-sex spaces? Do you believe women should retain the legal right to maintain single sex-based places, and use the legal system to enforce that legal right? Yes or no?

What’s telling to me is how hard you are trying to avoid the hard truth here, which is that you are in favor of the dismantlement of women’s historically hard-fought sex-based rights. You know that’s the outcome you are promoting here, and you are dancing around desperately to avoid the truth.


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The PP is a gaslighter extraordinaire. Same troll as usual.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

NP. If the surgical and cosmetic changes you voluntarily undertook to defraud people into thinking you’re the opposite sex leave you a pariah with no clear space to go to, then that’s YOUR problem. Decisions have consequences. You’d better channel all that grooming energy into creating trans spaces.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.


It seemed to work fine before. Trans women who passed for women without a second glance just used the women's bathroom. Why can't we keep doing that?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.

Right, the majority of men who claim to be trans want nothing to do with women which is why they’re colonizing our sports, bathrooms, domestic violence shelters, rape shelters, locker rooms, medical specialties (what’s a man doing at the Ob/Gyn?), and very identities. That’s why they claim
they’re “lesbians.” That’s why they claim lesbians are “transphobic” for not wanting them. Checks out!
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.


It seemed to work fine before. Trans women who passed for women without a second glance just used the women's bathroom. Why can't we keep doing that?

Because the vast majority of you look like the crazy men in dresses that you are.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.



There is already an issue of biological women being harassed for trying to use the womens room because they don't conform to some other woman's expectations of how women should look.

https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/11/01/cis-woman-mistaken-transgender-records-being-berated-bathroom

How about: Leave people alone and mind your own business unless they actually do something criminal or inappropriate.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.


It seemed to work fine before. Trans women who passed for women without a second glance just used the women's bathroom. Why can't we keep doing that?

Because the vast majority of you look like the crazy men in dresses that you are.


You look like the crazy woman in a dress that you are.
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Anonymous wrote:I love how our trans activist absolutely refuses to admit that trans rights come at the expense of women’s hard-fought sex-based rights.

OP, the posts above should tell you all you need to know about why there is increasingly sharp pushback across the political spectrum to the trans rights movement. Americans see the destruction of women’s sex-based rights, and they don’t like it.


Overturning roe is the destruction of women's rights. That is what you need to know and that is where people are focused.


The right is focused on trans women in bathrooms and apparently wanting to “legally enforce” trans women out of the bathroom. Reminder, 1 in 33 women in the bathroom with you in DC is a trans woman. Please don’t murder them.


I am fine with anyone using a bathroom. It's a bathroom.

The right just tries to use this issue to try to deflect from the catastrophic pushback they got and will continue to get from overturning roe. I don't think they actually care if someone is trans or if someone has an abortion. The right is just looking for some votes for their authoritarian regime.


DP. I actually don't care (at all) if someone is trans or if someone has an abortion. I simply don't want to share a bathroom or any other intimate space with a biological male. I also don't want biological males competing in sports against biological females. Those are very mainstream feelings that most Americans share, and you are delusional if you think anyone but the left and the LWNJs pushing for males to be included in female spaces isn't going to get catastrophic pushback.
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Anonymous wrote:I don't care what other people do for the most part. I just want biological men to stay out of our locker rooms and sports (Safety issues! And I have PTSD from being raped so I don't want men near me in such vulnerable places). I also don't want ideology pushed on my children in public schools or through big library displays in the children's section. If John and James want to get married, go for it. There's no reason for my 2nd grader to know what a drag queen is. If a man wants to dress up to read to kids, he can dress up like a pirate and read a pirate story. Dressing like a deranged parody of a woman to read a book is nothing more than involving children in his fetish.


There are transwomen who pass without a second glance, there are biological women who get questioned for being female. How does this work without bathroom police and genitalia inspection?

The overwhelming majority of transwomen want absolutely nothing to do with you. Rather than being fixated on what's between someone's legs, one should instead focus on whether they commit criminal acts. Rape is rape. But merely existing and wearing this instead of that is absolutely not a crime.


It seemed to work fine before. Trans women who passed for women without a second glance just used the women's bathroom. Why can't we keep doing that?

Because the vast majority of you look like the crazy men in dresses that you are.


You look like the crazy woman in a dress that you are.

Doesn’t have the same zing when lobbed at actual women, honey! Sorry about that pesky Y chromosome.
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