Seriously with the book banning ?

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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


But when people are left to be their own person, bad things happen. Seriously, the most eff-ed up people I know are those that had too much freedom. There are plenty of non controversial books to fill school libraries. If we are now calling Christmas break, Winter break, and feminine hygiene products are now period products because we don’t want to offend anyone, then we should also remove books that are offensive to some people. That’s how it works these days, the people that find the most things to be offended by win!!


The Bible offends me
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


But when people are left to be their own person, bad things happen. Seriously, the most eff-ed up people I know are those that had too much freedom. There are plenty of non controversial books to fill school libraries. If we are now calling Christmas break, Winter break, and feminine hygiene products are now period products because we don’t want to offend anyone, then we should also remove books that are offensive to some people. That’s how it works these days, the people that find the most things to be offended by win!!


The Bible offends me

Sorry. The fascists are working toward a world in which the only books in school are various translations of the Bible.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


But when people are left to be their own person, bad things happen. Seriously, the most eff-ed up people I know are those that had too much freedom. There are plenty of non controversial books to fill school libraries. If we are now calling Christmas break, Winter break, and feminine hygiene products are now period products because we don’t want to offend anyone, then we should also remove books that are offensive to some people. That’s how it works these days, the people that find the most things to be offended by win!!


The Bible offends me




The Constitution offends me.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


But when people are left to be their own person, bad things happen. Seriously, the most eff-ed up people I know are those that had too much freedom. There are plenty of non controversial books to fill school libraries. If we are now calling Christmas break, Winter break, and feminine hygiene products are now period products because we don’t want to offend anyone, then we should also remove books that are offensive to some people. That’s how it works these days, the people that find the most things to be offended by win!!


The Bible offends me




The Constitution offends me.


Communist offend me.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.


There have been books with sexual content in schools. See Judy Blume references. I read Judy Blume in elementary school through highschool. Only difference here is now graphic novels are popular so there are pictures, and everyone is up in arms. Chill.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.

I’m glad to hear that you also want the Bible out of schools as you think depictions of “sex acts” don’t belong in school.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.


There have been books with sexual content in schools. See Judy Blume references. I read Judy Blume in elementary school through highschool. Only difference here is now graphic novels are popular so there are pictures, and everyone is up in arms. Chill.

They’re not even popular. They’re just there. As books have always been.

I’ll point out again that not a single fascist can point to an elementary school with this one book they’re soooooo afraid of actually in it. It’s a convenient ruse for them to whine about “sExShUaLiZiNg Ow-Er ChIlDrEn” as if these same parents don’t just let their children loose on Netflix and the internet. The fascist GOP banning books has about as much to do with sexualizing children as immigration has to do with stopping immigrants with coming here: nothing at all.
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Words offend me.

Let's stop using words. Without words there'd be no offenses!

Who's with me?!
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.

This is a list of the books that Duval County, FL banned. Which of these have images of sex acts in them? The Berenstain Bears and the Big Question? The Double Life of Pocahontas? The Life of Rosa Parks? Malala: A Hero for All? Roberto Clemente: Pride of the Pittsburgh Pirates? Do tell.
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/?fbclid=IwAR3MUhy2VxNRvfSOmPPLKf_yZfi1PliT-VX7RHxt7o7FTMO2jzAQKqxE8xM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.

This is a list of the books that Duval County, FL banned. Which of these have images of sex acts in them? The Berenstain Bears and the Big Question? The Double Life of Pocahontas? The Life of Rosa Parks? Malala: A Hero for All? Roberto Clemente: Pride of the Pittsburgh Pirates? Do tell.
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/?fbclid=IwAR3MUhy2VxNRvfSOmPPLKf_yZfi1PliT-VX7RHxt7o7FTMO2jzAQKqxE8xM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

When pushed on their terrible fascist politics, the fascists scatter.
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What does "depiction" of sex encompass? It's ok if a book describes sex with words as long as there aren't pictures? Is any reference to sex out? None of the book banners seem able to make this distinction. As a woman, I sometimes am more turned on by words over photos. Seems unfair to ban one over the other. But yes if words are banned, the Bible is out.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.

This is a list of the books that Duval County, FL banned. Which of these have images of sex acts in them? The Berenstain Bears and the Big Question? The Double Life of Pocahontas? The Life of Rosa Parks? Malala: A Hero for All? Roberto Clemente: Pride of the Pittsburgh Pirates? Do tell.
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/?fbclid=IwAR3MUhy2VxNRvfSOmPPLKf_yZfi1PliT-VX7RHxt7o7FTMO2jzAQKqxE8xM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ

How about “The Gift of Ramadan” by Rabiah York Lumbard and Laura K. Horton? I bet that’s smutty as hell. Or “Barbed Wire Baseball: How One Man Brought Hope to the Japanese Internment Camps of WWII,” by Marissa Moss and Yuko Marissa Shimizu. That’s for sure pornography snuck in under the banner of community in difficult situations and baseball.

Or wait - is it possible that all this book banning is just more regressive virtue signaling? Letting those dirty brown people know that they ought to know their place in the GOP world order? Because that list seems pretty heavy on minorities. Almost like it’s more about that than it is about sex. It’s weird how quiet the fascists are.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.

This is a list of the books that Duval County, FL banned. Which of these have images of sex acts in them? The Berenstain Bears and the Big Question? The Double Life of Pocahontas? The Life of Rosa Parks? Malala: A Hero for All? Roberto Clemente: Pride of the Pittsburgh Pirates? Do tell.
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/?fbclid=IwAR3MUhy2VxNRvfSOmPPLKf_yZfi1PliT-VX7RHxt7o7FTMO2jzAQKqxE8xM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Notice that the fascist PP hasn't come back to defend her crap.
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Anonymous wrote:I would really like to hear from a conservative opinion.

Technically it seems one has grounds to sue Florida to remove Bibles from schools based on Florida's own policy. The Bible has some scandalous references/descriptions.




I’ll offer a conservative opinion. These things are hard to legislate. Ideally they wouldn’t require legislation. I personally have no idea how some people are okay with books like “gender queer” with its images of sex acts being in public school libraries. But apparently they are. And it seems that parents have found the only way to keep them out is to go to their representatives and get laws passed. And these laws will overreach. Because there is a line between acceptable and unacceptable and it’s different for different families. I wish people who think their kids should read Gender Queer would just buy it for their kids and not defend its presence in school. I wish schools would err on the side of not having this material present when it is questionable. But that’s not how it works today. So we have laws instead of common sense and some of those laws go too far.

That’s not a “conservative” opinion, that’s a regressive and fascistic as the rest of your dumb party, you just tart it up with more words. Just to use your dumb example, what do you think “gender queer” means, precisely? What kind of illicit books do you think were being read in schools? Look at those book shelves above. You think all those empty or covered shelves were populated by “gender queer” books?

You guys are just seriously beyond stupid. A few years ago, around 2016/2017 when we started calling Republicans Nazis for their support of Trump, you all took great offense and noted what you perceived to be a lack of parallels with that noted fascist party. And here you are, calmly and articulately defending fascism.


DP. You're calling the PP (and others) "beyond stupid" when you aren't even bright enough to follow along with the PP's post? The point is that many parents feel the book, "Gender Queer," is sexually explicit (it is) and does not belong in public school libraries (it doesn't).

Of course those empty shelves weren't populated by books like "Gender Queer." Unfortunately, because people like you inexplicably disagree with common sense, there is now legislation that is grossly overreaching so that all books can be reviewed. This would be unnecessary if there was even a shred of common sense from the left, but there clearly is not. Simply removing "Gender Queer" from public school libraries would have been the obvious solution, but no. Apparently removing an obviously pornographic book from school shelves was just a bridge too far for liberals.

Not to fear though! You can still purchase this book (or check it out of the public library) and expose your own kids to pornography as much as you'd like.

Oh honey. You’re beyond help.


^^ The response of someone who has nothing intelligent to say.

No, it’s the response of someone who is fed up with fascists - oh, pardon me, “mOdErAtEs” - blithely excusing fascism. It’s not 1932; we have some idea of how bad fascism can be and the ramifications of treating benignly or, worse, applauding it. “Some other books might get caught up, but it’s worth it if Gender Queer is gone.” That’s moronic.

First of all, you fascists are all obsessed with this one book. Why just this one book? Because it’s sufficiently far enough outside your milieu for you to be able to be whipped into a panic about it. Not a one of you can point to a single elementary K-5 school or class it’s been in, nor can you point to anyone who has come to harm from reading a cartoon book about figuring out one’s sexuality and consent.

And if this book is in the school library in 6-8 or 9-12? GOOD. The “penis” you are all freaking out about is a finger. If you think a finger dangled in front one’s genital region is ban worthy, I’m sure you keep your fundamentalist children at home and with no screens, no phones and no friends who might sully them.

You are so obsessed with controlling other people’s lives and other people’s children because you’re terrified of a world of equality in which people know themselves and know how to act towards everyone with decency and honor. You don’t want Black or Native children to know their history and you sure don’t want your White kids to know the truth of what White America did to minorities, so you’re totally fine with those kinds of books getting disappeared. You don’t really like LGBTQIA+ people and the fact that those people can have families now makes you mad as hell, so you don’t care if books about those types of families are erased. If you want to rear your own children to be stupid and hateful, that’s your choice. It’s a dumb choice, but it’s clearly the choice you’ve committed to.

And so I reiterate, hopefully with enough words that you can understand more fully what I meant when I said it the first time: “Oh honey. You’re beyond help.”


Is it really that surprising to you that parents don’t want books with images of sex acts in their kids’ schools? Parents don’t want sexual content in schools. For decades that wouldn’t have even been up for discussion. You are creating all these imaginary issues when the basic fact is that parents want to stop the sexualization of children that is being pushed on them today. It’s hard enough when it’s done in the media and on the internet. It shouldn’t be coming from the adults in school.

This is a list of the books that Duval County, FL banned. Which of these have images of sex acts in them? The Berenstain Bears and the Big Question? The Double Life of Pocahontas? The Life of Rosa Parks? Malala: A Hero for All? Roberto Clemente: Pride of the Pittsburgh Pirates? Do tell.
https://pen.org/banned-books-florida/?fbclid=IwAR3MUhy2VxNRvfSOmPPLKf_yZfi1PliT-VX7RHxt7o7FTMO2jzAQKqxE8xM&mibextid=Zxz2cZ


Notice that the fascist PP hasn't come back to defend her crap.

And she wont, at least not without a lot of namecalling and ad hominem attacks. Read that list of books pulled from elementary schools. It is the most benign list of multicultural books and books about acceptance.

“Neither,” by the way, is an amazing children’s book that these mouth breathers have banned. I gather it’s supposed to be about LGBTQIA+ but it’s really about anyone who has felt like they don’t fit into the pre appropved categories. There’s no sex in it, and if anyone claims that there is, then that person is telling on themselves and their attraction to cartoons.
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