Seriously with the book banning ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not only Florida.

And it's coming to all red states

VA just added itself to the list of the dumbing down of its schools. Youngkin will do this asap.

The religious right is taking hold and god help us all particularly women.

Punching women- books describing punching women in the face, locking them in the closet: those need to be in the school library, right PP? Those are the books?

It oppresses women if we don’t give our kids access to graphic descriptions of violence against women: that is what you are saying, isn’t it PP?

Does it celebrate that violence in the same way so many war books do?

WTF? Nice strawman, dunce.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's not only Florida.

And it's coming to all red states

VA just added itself to the list of the dumbing down of its schools. Youngkin will do this asap.

The religious right is taking hold and god help us all particularly women.

Punching women- books describing punching women in the face, locking them in the closet: those need to be in the school library, right PP? Those are the books?

It oppresses women if we don’t give our kids access to graphic descriptions of violence against women: that is what you are saying, isn’t it PP?

You are an idiot.

These books everyone should read.

Who are you to tell anyone else what books kids should read for their education? You don't want your kid to read them private school.

And who gets to decide those books the religious right? NO

^^ This person is actually calling someone else "an idiot." SMDH.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

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Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

But who gets to decide what is unacceptable? That is the question. Period.

[Anonymous]

It's just a hot button issue to get folks who don't supervise their kids riled up. Their kids already don't have to read those books, they can be opted out. Parents can restrict a kids library card to only the little.kids section in a public library if they want to.

They are trying to find an issue to get people angry, it's all about optics.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's just a hot button issue to get folks who don't supervise their kids riled up. Their kids already don't have to read those books, they can be opted out. Parents can restrict a kids library card to only the little.kids section in a public library if they want to.

They are trying to find an issue to get people angry, it's all about optics.

Someone didn’t even bother to watch the video and has no idea what this conversation is about.

[Anonymous]

I watched the video and googled the book “Monday’s Not Coming.”

It shouldn’t be in an elementary or middle school library, but is okay for high school. It should NOT be used in the curriculum and forced upon kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

With all the classic literature and modern day books available, why should any school proactively lift up arguably inappropriate books for some age levels?

Can we agree that such books don’t belong in a K-5 school or middle schools? Can we use movie ratings as a guide?

When it comes to high school, I’m fine with all books being accessible. I’m not fine with certain books being required reading.

Honestly, I think some of the books have an unintended negative effect. Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, I worry that some actually promote harmful stereotypes. I don’t hear anyone evaluating impact, but perhaps someone should? I’ve heard some kids say as much when discussing required reading in mcps.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

With all the classic literature and modern day books available, why should any school proactively lift up arguably inappropriate books for some age levels?

Can we agree that such books don’t belong in a K-5 school or middle schools? Can we use movie ratings as a guide?

When it comes to high school, I’m fine with all books being accessible. I’m not fine with certain books being required reading.

Honestly, I think some of the books have an unintended negative effect. Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, I worry that some actually promote harmful stereotypes. I don’t hear anyone evaluating impact, but perhaps someone should? I’ve heard some kids say as much when discussing required reading in mcps.

Do any of these books tell kids that a psycho who demands “sure, you say you love me, but you have to prove it by killing your son” should be worshipped?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

With all the classic literature and modern day books available, why should any school proactively lift up arguably inappropriate books for some age levels?

Can we agree that such books don’t belong in a K-5 school or middle schools? Can we use movie ratings as a guide?

When it comes to high school, I’m fine with all books being accessible. I’m not fine with certain books being required reading.

Honestly, I think some of the books have an unintended negative effect. Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, I worry that some actually promote harmful stereotypes. I don’t hear anyone evaluating impact, but perhaps someone should? I’ve heard some kids say as much when discussing required reading in mcps.

Do any of these books tell kids that a psycho who demands “sure, you say you love me, but you have to prove it by killing your son” should be worshipped?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

With all the classic literature and modern day books available, why should any school proactively lift up arguably inappropriate books for some age levels? Look at the whole list of books RWNJ want to ban and tell me that they’re all so vastly inappropriate. Hint: they’re not. They just have horrible terrible things like gay families. Quelle horreur.

Can we agree that such books don’t belong in a K-5 school or middle schools? Can we use movie ratings as a guide? Do you seriously believe that there are sexually explicit books in your elementary students’ library? I volunteered in my kids’ school library. Noooooooone of these sexually explicit books was there. You know why? Because school librarians take their duties - to provide age-appropriate materials that will get kids to read and will stimulate a lifetime love of reading. Believe it or not, they’re not going to stock the elementary equivalent of Penthouse letters. And in the other thread I listed several of the places where librarians go to evaluate books for purchase. Just because you’re just tuning in out of Fox based fear doesn’t mean this is a new field and that there are no experts.

When it comes to high school, I’m fine with all books being accessible. I’m not fine with certain books being required reading. Literally the two or three books that have been held up as soooo bad aren’t required anywhere. And I think as we saw with Beloved - required but parents are able to opt out their delicate white supremacist children - this has already been covered.

Honestly, I think some of the books have an unintended negative effect. Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, I worry that some actually promote harmful stereotypes. Which ones? I don’t hear anyone evaluating impact, but perhaps someone should? I’ve heard some kids say as much when discussing required reading in mcps. You’re deliberately conflating two separate issues - books available for reading in the school library and books required for reading in lit classes. If your kids aren’t talking with their teachers about why some books are required, maybe a tutor is a good next step.

There’s no demonstrated harm with these books. There are just angry and stupid Republicans who want to make the world a safe space for them and their children.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

Amazing the kinds of books you seem so eager for your kids to read. And very telling.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Not sure if this is what my spouse shared with me, but please get the full story before you comment. I do know one of these books available to 13 year olds shows an explicit drawing of someone giving a blow job. I’m no prude and I think we should exercise extreme caution censoring books, but I don’t want my kid reading that. And no, my kid also doesn’t have unfettered access to the internet.

+1 I don’t support censorship of anything but restricting age inappropriate books is not only acceptable but sensible. But some of the radical fringe insist 9 years should be exposed to graphic imagery.

+2
Parents interested in exposing their children to the abuse and rape of women, as well as other graphic depictions of sex, are welcome to check those books out in a public library to share with their kids. They do not have any place in a public school. Period.

+1

Four people who are happily greasing the skids on a slippery slope to fascism.

With all the classic literature and modern day books available, why should any school proactively lift up arguably inappropriate books for some age levels? Look at the whole list of books RWNJ want to ban and tell me that they’re all so vastly inappropriate. Hint: they’re not. They just have horrible terrible things like gay families. Quelle horreur.

Can we agree that such books don’t belong in a K-5 school or middle schools? Can we use movie ratings as a guide? Do you seriously believe that there are sexually explicit books in your elementary students’ library? I volunteered in my kids’ school library. Noooooooone of these sexually explicit books was there. You know why? Because school librarians take their duties - to provide age-appropriate materials that will get kids to read and will stimulate a lifetime love of reading. Believe it or not, they’re not going to stock the elementary equivalent of Penthouse letters. And in the other thread I listed several of the places where librarians go to evaluate books for purchase. Just because you’re just tuning in out of Fox based fear doesn’t mean this is a new field and that there are no experts.

When it comes to high school, I’m fine with all books being accessible. I’m not fine with certain books being required reading. Literally the two or three books that have been held up as soooo bad aren’t required anywhere. And I think as we saw with Beloved - required but parents are able to opt out their delicate white supremacist children - this has already been covered.

Honestly, I think some of the books have an unintended negative effect. Instead of fostering understanding and empathy, I worry that some actually promote harmful stereotypes. Which ones? I don’t hear anyone evaluating impact, but perhaps someone should? I’ve heard some kids say as much when discussing required reading in mcps. You’re deliberately conflating two separate issues - books available for reading in the school library and books required for reading in lit classes. If your kids aren’t talking with their teachers about why some books are required, maybe a tutor is a good next step.

There’s no demonstrated harm with these books. There are just angry and stupid Republicans who want to make the world a safe space for them and their children.

Please provide the "whole list of books RWNJ want to ban." And remember - we're talking about public school libraries. We'll wait while you provide that list, with reputable links.
DP

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Please provide the "whole list of books RWNJ want to ban." And remember - we're talking about public school libraries. We'll wait while you provide that list, with reputable links.
DP

Did you read the OP? Did you read this thread? https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1014086.page