Wuhan virus (coronavirus) arrives in the USA

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For those who don't feel like googling, Amoy Gardens was an apartment complex in Hong Kong where a resident came down with SARS. Despite basically being in-home quarantine and not interacting with anyone, another patient developed SARS. Then another, and another...

Doctors couldn't figure how SARS was traveling between floors until an engineer noticed the floor drains (apartments in HK often have floor drains to deal with excess water). These floor drains went into the buildings sewer system and the U-shape bend / traps in many of them had dried out. When someone was in the bathroom, closed the door and turned on the fan it created a negative pressure that 'sucked' droplets from the sewers (filled with SARS infected diarreah) and into the bathrooms of healthy residents, who eventually became infected as well.

There were some other sources too including a broken sewage pipe and some other transmissions, but even today in Hong Kong the government reminds people to flood the bathroom floor drains with bleach once a week during outbreaks.

329 infections and 42 deaths occurred in Amoy Gardens.

https://www.scmp.com/article/412882/sewage-system-blame-amoy-gardens

http://www.openscar.com/amoygardens.html
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https://www.facebook.com/ABCNewsLive/videos/176668077113882/

Oregon press conference live!
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Has this been discussed yet? Person on Reddit claiming they were in affected areas (Japan), came back to US, got sick, had symptoms matching COVID19, but CDC would not perform test. He's in NY.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nyc/comments/fayko1/my_covid19_story_brooklyn/
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The Oregon woman who has tested positive is a teacher in Washington County. She is considered a community spread case and became symptomatic February 19.

Her school has been shut down. She also had contact with individuals at another school.

She is called a presumptive case because they are waiting for federal authorities to confirm the state's positive result. (Side query: Do we need this federal endorsement? Will be like China reporting confirmed cases and suspected cases?)


https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-appears-in-oregon.html
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Case in Washington County, Oregon. They are also watching a second case in Oregon that's not related.

Oregon Health Authority Director on new coronavirus case: "There was no known travel exposure for this individual. So this is a case of community spread of the disease, much like the case from California earlier this week."

Oregon Health Authority Director on new coronavirus case: "The patient has spent time at the Lake Oswego school district at Forest Hills Elementary School. We're working with the local school officials and the Oregon Department of Education in the response."

Oregon Health Authority Director on new coronavirus case: "We don't know how this person became infected with COVID-19. It's too soon to say what impact this case has on family, friends, coworkers or the Lake Oswego school district."

https://twitter.com/ryanstruyk/status/1233582491795165184?s=20

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Anonymous wrote:Switzerland has cancelled all gatherings of a 1000 or more people.

Next week is carnival week in Switzerland; likely all carnivals will be cancelled.

This is a big deal for the country.


Wait until Japan has to cancel the Olympics. Maybe they can postpone it to 2021? It’s a terrible idea to get thousands of people from all over the world together for two weeks then send them home to literally every country on the planet. Talk about a recipe for massive spread (everywhere).


+1 It's the Spanish flu scenario during WWI
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Anonymous wrote:The Oregon woman who has tested positive is a teacher in Washington County. She is considered a community spread case and became symptomatic February 19.

Her school has been shut down. She also had contact with individuals at another school.

She is called a presumptive case because they are waiting for federal authorities to confirm the state's positive result. (Side query: Do we need this federal endorsement? Will be like China reporting confirmed cases and suspected cases?)


https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-appears-in-oregon.html


There was a German woman who is a teacher too. Maybe it’s already going through the schools.
Anonymous
The Washington State Health Department is giving a press briefing on coronavirus at 8 pm PST, 11 pm EST.

No details given according to BNO News Twitter.
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Anonymous wrote:Switzerland has cancelled all gatherings of a 1000 or more people.

Next week is carnival week in Switzerland; likely all carnivals will be cancelled.

This is a big deal for the country.


Wait until Japan has to cancel the Olympics. Maybe they can postpone it to 2021? It’s a terrible idea to get thousands of people from all over the world together for two weeks then send them home to literally every country on the planet. Talk about a recipe for massive spread (everywhere).


+1 It's the Spanish flu scenario during WWI

+2
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Anonymous wrote:The Oregon woman who has tested positive is a teacher in Washington County. She is considered a community spread case and became symptomatic February 19.

Her school has been shut down. She also had contact with individuals at another school.

She is called a presumptive case because they are waiting for federal authorities to confirm the state's positive result. (Side query: Do we need this federal endorsement? Will be like China reporting confirmed cases and suspected cases?)


https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-appears-in-oregon.html


The 19th is when she became symptomatic? So for a week or two weeks prior she was an asymptomatic spreader in an elementary school. No doubt the kids spread it asymptomaticly and are still in incubation periods as are their families. You literally couldn’t come up with a worse scenario other than the olympics.
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Santa Clara County held a press conference. Looks like that got her test result back in less than day.

"The infected patient is an older adult woman with chronic health conditions who was hospitalized for a respiratory illness, county officials said. Her infectious disease physician contacted the Public Health Department to discuss the case and request testing for the novel coronavirus.

The Santa Clara County Public Health Laboratory received the specimens Thursday and performed the testing. Since receiving the results last night, the department has been working to identify contacts and understand the extent of exposures."

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/02/28/santa-clara...nnounces-new-coronavirus-case/

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Second case of unknown origin in Northern California - no connection to first case.

The patient is a 65-year-old person from Santa Clara County, with no known history of travel to places hit hard by the outbreak, and no contact with a known case of the virus. Santa Clara is about 90 miles from Solano County, where the first case of community transmission in the United States was confirmed this week.


https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/28/coronavirus-live-updates/




So not all testing has to go back to Atlanta now? That will speed things up.


They need to trace the movements of the people who met the evacuee airplane. They have been out there for the last few weeks and no doubt moving around the area.


+1 Maybe running around SF, the Bay Area, and SFO?
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know anything about the effect of smoking on the virus? The counties that are hard hit now have heavy smokers- China, Iran and even Italy.

Also, it seems to be spreading faster than the normal flu. Is this true? How is it spreading faster?


I've been wondering the same thing. For some reason they are leaving smoker/non-smoker off of these stats.


Someone said something about this on NPR yesterday. I think it was 50-80% of Chinese men smoke, and older ones especially, and they are dying. Fewer women smoke, and they are not. This was along with a conversation about how children are less affected (in # and in severity) and that may be related to built-up immunity (i.e. they get more colds so are more ready to fight this off). All speculation. But by experts.


Don’t buy into the smoking theories. Sure it makes one feel better I guess. The problem is no smokers vs non. It’s containing this virus


Are you a smoker by any chance?



I didn’t answer this thread but agree ppl have tried to find reasons to think they might be safe. The virus infects smoker and non a like. Ederly or not. How lucky are you? The only watt I manage luck is to plan for it. Planning and execution are both lack luster now? Is it easier to ban travel to and from certain areas in January or quarantine citizens here in March? Hmm


I don't understand the people saying smoking has nothing to do with the serious cases. If your lungs are damaged, they are more susceptible to failing. I mean...that's just obvious. You can be concerned and still recognize obvious risk factors that are likely to be in play.


No one knows if many infected with serious conditions are smokers. Generalizing doesn’t help.
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I can’t believe the president said it was a hoax today! We are doomed if that’s what he is saying.
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Anonymous wrote:CDC Just moved Italy to level 3 alert
. Does that also mean they can’t travel here? What’s the use of a one way plan
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Anonymous wrote:The Oregon woman who has tested positive is a teacher in Washington County. She is considered a community spread case and became symptomatic February 19.

Her school has been shut down. She also had contact with individuals at another school.

She is called a presumptive case because they are waiting for federal authorities to confirm the state's positive result. (Side query: Do we need this federal endorsement? Will be like China reporting confirmed cases and suspected cases?)


https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2020/02/coronavirus-appears-in-oregon.html


The 19th is when she became symptomatic? So for a week or two weeks prior she was an asymptomatic spreader in an elementary school. No doubt the kids spread it asymptomaticly and are still in incubation periods as are their families. You literally couldn’t come up with a worse scenario other than the olympics.


She probably got the illness from one of her students, who may have got it from another student, who got it from her aunt, who returned from a visit to China in early January.

All the kids in her class could be SYMPTOMATIC spreaders. Coughing all the time. Kids are germy.

Remember, since we haven't been testing for community spread, the first cases we see will be the most severe ones, ending up with severe pneumonia. But just because she is the first we know about doesn't mean she's the first who has the illness.

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